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    Just two things I wanted to share. Everybody knows in order to gain muscle you must have a slight caloric surplus. What I don't understand is why some people constantly repeat this caloric surplus thing. As if most peope don't eat enough??

    In reality, the overwhelming majority of people in the developed world eat way too much. Even many people in developing countries eat way too much. Why constantly tell people to eat enough (if they want to gain muscle) when they most probably eat too much already? Is there a "danger" of not eating enough or something? I would rather tell people to eat less to build muscle and look leaner, lol...

    Secondly, I don't understand people who lift weights and look rather fat /bulky.. do they want to look good and lean like me, or do they just want to be big? I find that quite strange to be honest, but to each his own. If you want to walk around with fat around your waist all the time while being "huge" then go for it :P
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    I'm not sure if you're asking something, or just expressing your opinion. Though I think you're confusing eating at a caloric surplus (which is advised within the context of a performance supporting diet,) with the general overeating you've observed in developed countries. Even if a person at a caloric surplus is eating a large amount of food they are doing so with a purpose, and their diet will tend to be very different than a person who is not eating mindfully.

    You mentioned you "would rather tell people to eat less to build muscle and look leaner", but the human body doesn't operate that way. To build muscle a person needs to consume the right amount of energy and nutrients, in the form of food, to support their activities and growth. The sources and amount of energy necessary to build muscle is heavily argued, though not whether it needs to be at a deficit to achieve the goal.
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    Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    .. do they want to look good and lean like me, or do they just want to be big? I find that quite strange to be honest, but to each his own. If you want to walk around with fat around your waist all the time while being "huge" then go for it :P
    If you're going to criticize others' appearance, post a pic of yourself to show your 'good and lean' physique, OP.
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    ^^^^^ exactly what I was thinking. OP, please post up some pictures so we can all become inspired and motivated to improve.
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    Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    Everybody knows in order to gain muscle you must have a slight caloric surplus.
    This statement is false. You can gain muscle with any caloric surplus large or small.
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    Originally Posted by Merkava View Post

    Secondly, I don't understand people who lift weights and look rather fat /bulky.. do they want to look good and lean like me,




    yeah, you're pretty lean alright^^^^^^
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    I personally would encourage an individual to learn about nutrition & promote dietary awareness.
    The muscles i value most are the ones directly surrounding the spine, the hips, the scapula, the femur and the tibia... in that order.

    Basically the whole body minus chest and biceps... pretty much the opposite of what your local gym looks like on a typical Monday.
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    If you're going to criticize others' appearance, post a pic of yourself to show your 'good and lean' physique, OP.
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    Originally Posted by hammerfelt View Post
    This statement is false. You can gain muscle with any caloric surplus large or small.
    No, you will gain muscle and fat with a high caloric surplus.
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    yeah, you're pretty lean alright^^^^^^
    I don't take pics of anything, not interested. I don't even have a photo camera.

    But let's suppose I were professional photographer. Why on earth would I have to take pics of myself and show it to you? I don't like showing off and I'm not at all interested in impressing you or others.
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    ^^^^^ exactly what I was thinking. OP, please post up some pictures so we can all become inspired and motivated to improve.
    Did I criticize your physique? Strange people, strange forum. Maybe Americans are a bit strange?
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    No, you will gain muscle and fat with a high caloric surplus.
    The fat/muscle ratio gained depends on how you train.
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    Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    Did I criticize your physique? Strange people, strange forum. Maybe Americans are a bit strange?
    So first you criticize people who are "bulky", why can't they be as perfect as YOU! And now you're criticizing "Americans", and you think people here are "strange"? I think you have that backwards.


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    Why constantly tell people to eat enough (if they want to gain muscle) when they most probably eat too much already?
    Because invariably the people who post here saying "i can't gain muscle" are NOT eating enough.


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    Secondly, I don't understand people who lift weights and look rather fat /bulky.. do they want to look good and lean like me, or do they just want to be big? I find that quite strange to be honest, but to each his own. If you want to walk around with fat around your waist all the time while being "huge" then go for it :P
    Usually if I don't understand something, I ask questions so that I can gain understanding. You just criticize people in what appears to be a away to make yourself feel better.
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    Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    do they want to look good and lean like me?
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    I don't like showing off and I'm not at all interested in impressing you or others.
    Can you recognize the hypocrisy?
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    Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    Just two things I wanted to share. Everybody knows in order to gain muscle you must have a slight caloric surplus. What I don't understand is why some people constantly repeat this caloric surplus thing. As if most peope don't eat enough??

    In reality, the overwhelming majority of people in the developed world eat way too much. Even many people in developing countries eat way too much. Why constantly tell people to eat enough (if they want to gain muscle) when they most probably eat too much already? Is there a "danger" of not eating enough or something? I would rather tell people to eat less to build muscle and look leaner, lol...

    Secondly, I don't understand people who lift weights and look rather fat /bulky.. do they want to look good and lean like me, or do they just want to be big? I find that quite strange to be honest, but to each his own. If you want to walk around with fat around your waist all the time while being "huge" then go for it :P
    The average person has 2.7 kids. How many families have you seen with 2.7 kids? What average person or a vast majority of people need or don't need has nothing to do with what an individual does or doesn't need. A vast majority of people don't lift weights so you've pretty much fuked yourself out of your population sample right off the bat.
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    Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    Did I hurt your feelings?
    You're really clueless, aren't you?


    Maybe you people from the Netherlands are a bit strange.
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    Just incase you really aren't a troll...
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