Salamalaikum brother Sk,
Brother can you please check whether, the below Mufassirs after bringing these views affirmed them or rejected them?
Allah Himself has sent His special Salam to the Ahl al-Bayt (عليهم السلام) as well (37:130):
سلام علي آل يس
Salam be upon the family of Yasin!
In Tafsir Maqatil ibn Sulayman, vol. 3, p. 106, we read:
قال الفراء عن حيان الكلبي: آل ياسين يعني به النبي (صلى الله عليه) فإذا قال سلام على إل ياسين, فالمعنى سلام على آل محمد (صلى الله عليه (
Al-Farra narrated that Hayyan al-Kalbi said: “Family of Yasin: Yasin refers to the Prophet. So, when He said: ‘Salam be upon the family of Yasin!’, the meaning is ‘Salam be upon the family of Muhammad!’”
Ibn Abu Hatim in his Tafsir, vol. 10, p. 3225 also states:
عن ابن عباس في قوله: سلام على إل ياسين قال: نحن آل محمد آل ياسين
Ibn ‘Abbas said regarding the verse ‘Salam be upon the family of Yasin!’: “We are the family of Muhammad, the family of Yasin.”
Imam al-Qurtubi in his Tafsir, vol. 15, p. 4 also states:
وقالوا في قوله تعالى: (سَلَامٌ عَلَى آل يَاسِينَ), أي: على آل محمد. وقال سعيد بن جبير: هو الاسم من الاسماء محمد
They said regarding the verse ‘Salam be upon the family of Yasin’: meaning, the family of Muhammad. Sa’id ibn Jubayr said: Yasin is a name of Muhammad.
Ibn Kathir too in his Tafsir, vol. 4, p. 22 states:
وقرأ آخرون: (( سَلَامٌ عَلَى إِل يَاسِينَ )), يعني آل محمد
Others recite: “Salam be upon the family of Yasin”, meaning the family of Muhammad.
Al-Hakim al-Haskani in his Shawahid al-Tanzil, vol. 2, p. 165 has recorded the statement from Ibn ‘Abbas that the family of Yasin is the family of Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) from four distinct chains!
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05-13-2012, 12:38 AM #541
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05-13-2012, 12:43 AM #542
Yes.
1) Ali (ra) and Aisha (ra) among others migrated to medina after the prophet (pbuh) .
Just wondering how come they weren't persecuted when they were left all alone?
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05-13-2012, 09:20 AM #543
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
There's a difference of opinion on that. There are definitely some mufassirs who considered it a valid view. Others said it makes no sense in the context of the surah because the pattern is that the story of a Prophet (pbuh) is discussed then at the end the peace and blessings are sent to the family of that Prophet (pbuh). So in this case it is "Ilyass" who is being discussed, so it doesn't make much contextual sense to send peace and blessings upon the family of Muhammad (pbuh) as opposed to the family of Ilyass (pbuh) who was just mentioned. It also breaks the pattern of sending peace and blessings as was done in the rest of the surah. The people who support the other view say that "Yaseen" is one of the names of the Prophet (pbuh), which is true.
You can read more about that here:
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?...1&LanguageId=1
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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05-13-2012, 09:33 AM #544
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
That's not true, it would be obligatory to choose the lesser of two evils if there really are only two choices: vote for this evil or vote for that evil.
That's not the case. In this case there is a risk-free option called "vote for no evil". Maybe in a country where they will kill you for not voting for one of two equally harmful candidates his view would make sense, but it certainly doesn't apply in civil society.
Voting for any evil candidate means you are empowering them to perform haram. If Bilal wants to share in all the haram that he voted for, that's his choice, and he will be questioned for the people he helped achieve power.
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Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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05-13-2012, 09:38 AM #545
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
I don't think he actually fought or killed any Muslims. I think he was a Muslim at the time who was coerced by the polytheists to participate because he was so important, but then he made a plan to get captured very easily so he could be ransomed to free Muslims. I'd need to dig up sources for that though.
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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05-13-2012, 09:43 AM #546
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
1) Not everyone who was Muslim was persecuted, especially if they were related to important people in the tribe (there would be repercussions)
2) If badr was fought 2 years after hijrah (migration), and Ali (may God be pleased with him) was born around 24 years before hijrah, that would make him around 26. That's an easy one to research I think if you want to double check.
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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05-13-2012, 11:47 AM #547
As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh
What do you think about gender segregation? On sunniforum.com, I have read a lot of views that mixed gatherings should be completly disallowed, that mixed schools should be prohibited. I have even read that male taxi drivers should not allow women to enteir cars (one lone view).
Although I am personally against frivolous interaction between non-mahram people because that is the Islamic position, I also wonder where do we draw the line out of practical reasons. As I understand it from the history of the Prophet (pbuh) and the Companions (ra), gender segregation was in place, yes, but I don't think it necessarily reflects what is talked about on sunniforum.
For example, Aisha (ra) taught the Tabi'in (rah) hadiths. Granted some were her relatives like 'Urwa (rah), but I don't think they were all her relatives (that's my assumption). The other wives also transmitted from the Prophet (pbuh) and I don't think that everybody was related to them.
What is your take on this? What is the Islamic view (or an alternative Islamic view since the view represented on sunniforum.com is one)? Or is it how it portrayed on sunniforum.com?Le pouvoir est ? Dieu.
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05-13-2012, 12:21 PM #548
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05-13-2012, 04:12 PM #549
1) When was is it revealed that concubines are halal for Muslims?
2) What did the Muslims do with women before the revelation?
3) Is it permissible to kill female soldiers if they're putting up good fight on the battlefield and there's no other way to contain them?You just keep pushing. You just keep pushing. I made every mistake that could be made. But I just kept pushing.
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05-13-2012, 08:10 PM #550
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
I don't know of anything that indicates gender segregation is required in Islam. Some people can do that if they are more comfortable at parties/gatherings.
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Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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05-13-2012, 08:17 PM #551
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
1) That's found in two verses:
Those who hold to the truth of the Day of Judgment; And those who fear the displeasure of their Lord,- For their Lord's displeasure is the opposite of Peace and Tranquillity;-And those who guard their chastity. Except with their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess,- for then they are not to be blamed, But those who trespass beyond this are transgressors (Qur'an 70:26-30)
Successful indeed are the believers, Those who humble themselves in their prayers; Who avoid vain talk; Who are active in deeds of charity; Who abstain from sex, Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or the captives whom their right hands possess,- for in their case they are free from blame (Qur'an 23:1-6)
I don't have time to research when they were revealed to be honest.
2) Not sure, it depends on whether the verses were revealed before the first battle or later
3) Of course, anyone trying to kill you is treated like a soldier unless they surrender, but in general women, children, and the elderly are treated with mercy and leniency because they are usually under the influence of men
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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05-13-2012, 08:29 PM #552
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05-13-2012, 08:47 PM #553
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05-13-2012, 09:06 PM #554
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
Where do you see that it is haram for men and women to be in the same place at the same time?
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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05-13-2012, 09:08 PM #555
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
In general that's a good enough clue, but it's not always true that all verses in a surah were revealed during the same period.
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu*** There is no one free of all need, of whom all else are in absolute need, but God ***
Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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05-13-2012, 09:24 PM #556
As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh
The links don't suggest that a gathering of males and females is allowed. But then again those links concern specific situations. I was asking about co-education. The links don't say that it is haram for men and women to be in the same place and the same time. That's too general.Le pouvoir est ? Dieu.
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05-13-2012, 09:46 PM #557
OK. I searched for an answer on co-education on sunnipath.com:
http://spa.qibla.com/issue_view.asp?...D=2021&CATE=88
This link says that co-education is allowed for a woman even in a Western secular society. However, on sunniforum.com the idea that co-ed education is frowned upon, if not down-right haram, is prelevant. On sunniforum.com the site of sunnipath.com is not seen in the best light, either.
As an example, "As for co education, it might be considered for MALES, but for Muslim Sisters, It's totally NOT ALLOWED." Plus I have seen threads were women were discouraged from getting an education. This is the overall impression I got from reading that forum. It is nothing absolute though but it does represent that there are differing views. Those who are against co-education are mostly from the Indian subcontinent and I think that most people who frequent the forum are from that area.Le pouvoir est ? Dieu.
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05-13-2012, 09:54 PM #558
Last edited by Kurd4evah; 05-13-2012 at 10:19 PM.
It is impossible to lay hands on that which is not predestined for us, and that which is predestined for us will reach us wherever we are.
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05-13-2012, 09:58 PM #559
As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh
Yes, I know. But usually when that is the case it is pointed out as an exception - especially if it concerns a Medinan verse being in an otherwise Meccan Surah or vice versa. Unless there is something which specifically indicates that these verses are exceptions, i.e. they were revealed in Medina, then I think a fair conclusion is that they are Meccan. Let's also consider the fact that having sex with a concubine was the norm in those days for all peoples and it was an integral part of society. The fact that it was not outlawed in Mecca makes it most likely halal by default - just as wine was halal by default since it had not been addressed as haram.Last edited by kassit; 05-13-2012 at 10:09 PM.
Le pouvoir est ? Dieu.
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05-13-2012, 10:13 PM #560
Whoa.. I NEVER knew that was okay. Could you please provide some kind of context for this verse? Muslims could have had sex with "the captives whom their right hands possess." What does this mean exactly? Is it right hand as opposed to left or right hand as in the "correct" or "Good" hand? I have a feeling non-muslims will blow this out of proportion.
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05-14-2012, 03:29 AM #561
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05-14-2012, 03:56 AM #562
I'm more righteous than most in here, more compassionate etc, and more ascetic than most of you fake Muslims -- I also never make arguments against parts of Islam that I don't like like you all do. Step up your game you weak ***gots ; you either believe or you don't
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05-14-2012, 04:08 AM #563
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05-14-2012, 04:52 AM #564
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05-14-2012, 05:16 AM #565
I shall explain :
You either believe we're free or believe we're robots
You either believe in gender roles or you don't,
a or b
There's a notion now that we have 'degrees' of belief
I ask you to argue that -- for someone to argue for 'degrees' of belief, how someone can be a half-Muslim or how someone can be a 'strong Muslim' or a 'weak Muslim'
(note; I'm not saying someone who believes in God but doesn't believe religions represent him. Some of these people exist and they stay in Islam because they like the lessons it teaches and don't want their wife to cheat on them. This is just a complete unbeliever and not who I'm speaking to)
(this applies to Christians as well)Last edited by Christianyouth; 05-14-2012 at 05:27 AM.
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05-14-2012, 05:25 AM #566
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there are people who play basketball, and there are people who dont play basketball
okay, not so difficult til now....but what i'm telling you next may be a bit difficult for you so try to understand:
among those people who play basketball are some who play it better than others... UNBELIEVABLE ISNT IT?
and, that's your argument?? gooby pls try harder
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05-14-2012, 05:44 AM #567
Not what I said, but someone else can respond since this is an open thread(respond to my post, respond to his, etc)
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05-14-2012, 07:33 AM #568
SK mentioned this once a long time ago, exactly what you're saying, there is only one Islam. There is no liberal Muslim believes, or conservative Muslim beliefs, just one. BUT, people aren't perfect and can be weak in how well they follow the faith, or can be overzealous in it. This applies to every religion, does it not?
Don't quite understand what you're trying to get at.
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05-14-2012, 07:52 AM #569
pretty much spot on.
in a addition: you are either a cook, or you are not a cook.
so what now, good and bad cooks don't exist?
you either play basketball, or you don't.
sooooo there's no good and bad basketball players?
you are either a doctor or you're not. there's no in between.
soo there's no good or bad doctors?
you are either a muslim or you're not.
so you still think there can't be good muslims or bad muslims?
could you clarify, Christianyouth?
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05-14-2012, 12:00 PM #570You just keep pushing. You just keep pushing. I made every mistake that could be made. But I just kept pushing.
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