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    Which preworkout supp to buy

    never used one except superpump 250 like 4 years back.

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    Ive only used assault and jack3d. Both were good, but i would go with assault.
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    How'd you like SP250?


    I still have 2.5 cans left. I alternate it with SuperPumpMAX. I've really grown to like the MAX....good sustained pumps and energy without any creepy, cracked out feeling. I tried Jack3d and gave the can away quickly. Stuff was just too stim loaded for me.



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    Originally Posted by DubfromGA View Post
    How'd you like SP250?


    I still have 2.5 cans left. I alternate it with SuperPumpMAX. I've really grown to like the MAX....good sustained pumps and energy without any creepy, cracked out feeling. I tried Jack3d and gave the can away quickly. Stuff was just too stim loaded for me.



    If I try anything next, it will be White Flood.
    Ya most of the preWO formulas these days are so damn strong, I am unsure how people train on them. SP-Max is a good trendsetter for getting away from the 1,3 dimethyl and high doses of caffeine.
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    Jack3d is good and has been my go-to for awhile now. I also used Quake 10.0 (I guess is called Novem now) which I really liked too. Assault never really did anything for me and I wasn't a fan of the taste of it. You can't go wrong with Jack3d though.
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    Originally Posted by LLoydBanks View Post
    never used one except superpump 250 like 4 years back.

    Jack3d
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    Hemorage
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    completely lost, please help. Assault has "con-cret" lol
    can't go wrong with ErgoPump NMT, man. The reviews have been nothing short of sterllar, it has a stim profile that is actually unique in the category, and provides a full daily serving of creatine.

    check it out: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/er.../ergopump.html
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    I'm currently using Jack3d, but will be switching to Lit Up by Applied Nurician. Jack3d is good, but it takes 3 scoops to get a kick.
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    Those samples of Universal Rage were good. Caffeine based pre but was a good strong stim for a boost.
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    Stims- Novem, Fierce, white flood, Xpand,

    Non Stim- Hemavol, clout, ultima

    or better yet pick one from each list and stack it.

    Just look for something with proper dosing of ingredients.
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    currently using body octane and SAN fierce, both which are decent and really increase endurance and focus
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    Originally Posted by brianmt View Post
    Check out my review on Jack3d: http://briturtraining.com/jack3d
    Originally Posted by dhjtrue View Post
    I'm currently using Jack3d, but will be switching to Lit Up by Applied Nurician. Jack3d is good, but it takes 3 scoops to get a kick.
    You two....try Fierce. You don't need more than 1 scoop, trust me. Focus and energy are great, but endurance, pumps, and strength are outstanding, and it doesn't come infused with crash.

    Originally Posted by kingcarlos View Post
    currently using body octane and SAN fierce, both which are decent and really increase endurance and focus
    EXCELLENT! Great stack there.
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    Whats the difference between san launch and san fierce? both prewrokouts?
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    Whats the difference between san launch and san fierce? both prewrokouts?
    Launch = citrulline, nitrates, nootropics, stims = crazy focus, energy, endurance.

    Fierce = much larger doses of creatine, nitrates, beta alanine, l-aspartic acid, and a solid dose of nootropics and stims = sick pumps, endurance, strength, focus

    Launch = 5.5gr actives per serving

    Fierce = 14gr actives per serving

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    out of the ones being listed, are any of the non stim ones good for some help when im doing mma?

    i take a stim one with my morning weights but looking for a non stim to help give me energy for MMA/conditioning and cardio later in day. dont care about pumps.

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    threadjack

    out of the ones being listed, are any of the non stim ones good for some help when im doing mma?

    i take a stim one with my morning weights but looking for a non stim to help give me energy for MMA/conditioning and cardio later in day. dont care about pumps.

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