What happens if Jay wins the Sheru Classic?

[germanyt]

Will you consider him #1 again?

[ikillsuckers]

Will you consider him #1 again?

nahh because if he wins it will probably be due to inferior judging

[germanyt]

nahh because if he wins it will probably be due to inferior judging

For the sake of arguement let's say he shows up on and the judging is fair and he wins.

[Aguakate]

They'd kill Phil Heath's momentum, and make him the underdog going into next year's Mr O, even as Champion, SO...Jay won't win.

[LevroneFan2002]

What if Phil came outside the Top 3?

[TTimmerman]

no matter if kai/wolf/vic come in at 110% and jay is off by a heap, will they sneak into top 2...

disgonbetravesty

edit: how did that varinder dude get a pro card? must be fun prepping knowing you'll get dead last

[MesoPeaks]

He is always number # 1 in my Diary

[germanyt]

Anyone know the last time the O top 5 competed together outside the O? Imagine if Jay, Phil, Kai, Wolf, Vic, and Dex competed together 10 times this year. It would certainly destroy the prestige of the O. If Jay wins this show legit so close to the O then Ill have to keep Jay as #1. If he and Phil are on and Jay wins then to me, regardless of a week ago, Jay is still the better bodybuilder.

[Ikatsu]

Anyone know the last time the O top 5 competed together outside the O? Imagine if Jay, Phil, Kai, Wolf, Vic, and Dex competed together 10 times this year. It would certainly destroy the prestige of the O. If Jay wins this show legit so close to the O then Ill have to keep Jay as #1. If he and Phil are on and Jay wins then to me, regardless of a week ago, Jay is still the better bodybuilder.

COOL #9*$ING STORY BRO. God you're dumb. Do you even know what peaking is? Everyone was trying to peak at the Olympia clearly so despite if Jay wins or not Phil is still #1. This coming from a Kai fan.... but I'm not biased and *&@#ing retarded. Good to know that if Kai wins you'd consider him #1 though since 90% of the population agrees from a judging stand point he should have beat Jay at the O. (Although personally I would not consider Kai #1 if he won the Sheru since I'm not dumb)

Edit: That a black eye in your avatar? Good riddance to whoever kicked your stupid @#@

[RC2008]

I think even if he comes in looking like 09, he still won't win. Remember Phil got perfect scores at the Olympia, and his back now dominates Jay's unlike before. Jay basically can't win. The problems he has now, ard the type that you can't overcome when you're going up against 2011 Phil Heath.

[germanyt]

COOL #9*$ING STORY BRO. God you're dumb. Do you even know what peaking is? Everyone was trying to peak at the Olympia clearly so despite if Jay wins or not Phil is still #1. This coming from a Kai fan.... but I'm not biased and *&@#ing retarded. Good to know that if Kai wins you'd consider him #1 though since 90% of the population agrees from a judging stand point he should have beat Jay at the O. (Although personally I would not consider Kai #1 if he won the Sheru since I'm not dumb)

Edit: That a black eye in your avatar? Good riddance to whoever kicked your stupid @#@

Accidental waste of a rep. Fat fingered my screen. Why are you so mad brah? I read your post and pictured you sobbing at your computer.

[OtisBDriftwood]

brb being #1 despite losing the Olympia but winning a show that barely counts for anything.
Sense, much??

[tryin2gethuge10]

I think even if he comes in looking like 09, he still won't win. Remember Phil got perfect scores at the Olympia, and his back now dominates Jay's unlike before. Jay basically can't win. The problems he has now, ard the type that you can't overcome when you're going up against 2011 Phil Heath.

Jay really needs to bring his back up to have a chance against Heath.

[germanyt]

brb being #1 despite losing the Olympia but winning a show that barely counts for anything.
Sense, much??

The level of the show doeant matter to me. When the best in the world are on stage together that is what matters. And as for points would that put Jay back on top of Phil?

[ikillsuckers]

brb being #1 despite losing the Olympia but winning a show that barely counts for anything.
Sense, much??

except for the 150 thousand or however much they get if they win... lol

that has to count for a littl bit of something... i really think these guys start out competiing to oneday be mr olympia just to be my olympia but at some point it becomes all for the money

[tryin2gethuge10]

except for the 150 thousand or however much they get if they win... lol

that has to count for a littl bit of something... i really think these guys start out competiing to oneday be mr olympia just to be my olympia but at some point it becomes all for the money

First place prize is 150,000 at this show?

[tonyt82]

what would happen if phil never places second ever again until he retires?

[ikillsuckers]

First place prize is 150,000 at this show?

pretty sure its 130 or 150

[OtisBDriftwood]

First place prize is 150,000 at this show?

Sheru is a generous man it seems.
The best part is that probably the winner won't get taxed.

[ikillsuckers]

correct me if im wrong but wasnt this show suppose to happen for the last few years??

and if im thinking of the right show there was a thread where a poster had emailed sheru calling him a liar and saying hes lame for not putting on this show and its not gunna happen etc.

sheru had responded back with broken english totally talking shiit to the dude and it was absolutely hilarious, it would be great if someone can find that thread. belive it was around this time last year

[OtisBDriftwood]

what would happen if phil never places second ever again until he retires?

He's on the driver seat. He's the youngest of the Elite and already the Mr.O.
I don't feel like he's invincible just yet because of his size and neither completely dominant but getting back to Coleman, neither Coleman was in 1998.
He was still smaller than Levrone, Nasser and other guys in 1998. Then he added 11 pounds to 1999 with as good if not better conditioning.
I feel like 2012 it's what breaks or makes Phil in terms of dominance. Can he make mind-blowing improvements and blow everyone out of the water next year?
Should be interesting to see.

[JasonT305]

brb being #1 despite losing the Olympia but winning a show that barely counts for anything.
Sense, much??

you're right! $150k or w/e it is counts for nothing!
see wut i did dar?

[Npeart]

Will you consider him #1 again?

NO, because Jay hasn't been #1 since 09.

[siersy]

same judges same scores IMO
However i could see Kai placing 2nd in this show

[TLF84]

If jay wins he will be 150k richer that's it you can't take away the glory from phil from winning the Olympia and if jay wins the controversy behind his bicep at the Olympia will overpower the victory and remain hot topic

[Aguakate]

I find it kinda odd that Jay said during the Sheru Classic Press Conference that he's not 100%. It seems to me like he's setting the table for a 2nd place finish.

[SwolenONE]

no, i will consider it as an honorable send off to a great champion ready to retire. With that said, Im not sure he will retire and after proclaiming hes not 100% I dont assume he will win. If he does, hes still #2. Olympia title>>> Sheru title.

[liamcarter]

funny how people think jay might win... the guys body is breaking down and is rather asymetrical (however you spell it)

phil dominates jay in every area.. jay aint winning ****... and kai should get what he deserves a 2nd place over jay

[mrdot]

didnt Gunter beat Ronnie in some 2002 non olympia comp?

[btintb]

weird question , you can only be number 1 if you win the big O and not a battle like this.
But anyway ,he will not win this one , Phil will .
Besides ,Jay says it himself that his body isn't 100 percent in shape at the moment....