Which is a better natty test booster overall for PCT or just for stand alone?

[MuscleWealth]

Pls give your reason and feedback as to why you choose whichever product. Thks.

[95zj]

Blue Up .

Best ingredient profile IMO.

[_Smitty_]

no mention of sustain alpha...

[nni]

while i dont recommend it, it would have to address, estrogen as well. so whatever direction, make sure something is in there to address it. obviously you know which one i would lean toward.

[MuscleWealth]

Anymore?

[THEHUGE]

For pct I'd definitely go with Bio Forge as countless bloodworks showed a solid increase in free test AND total test(and a big LH increase as well).

Just for a stand alone test-boosting run the other options are fine tho.

[MuscleWealth]

Any others who have taken the above mentioned products?

[THEHUGE]

Any others who have taken the above mentioned products?

Search function darling. Tons of logs, reviews and bloodworks.

[-SDR-]

Pls give your reason and feedback as to why you choose whichever product. Thks.

Which works best for one isnt necessary the best for the other.. Are you using this for PCT or as a natural testosterone enhancer?

[naturalguy]

For standalone Animal Test is awesome. We don't recommend it for PCT because we don't recommend PH's.

[A1lthatrema1ns]

CEL PCT Assist...

[em-dubya]

CEL PCT Assist...

X2 ........There has been some excellent feedback from users

[kknecht1]

no mention of sustain alpha...

X2

I have used a enjoyed:
Activate Xtreme
Sustain Alpha

I have not used, but gets good reviews:
Bioforge

[jblaze4lif]

I def say bioforge due to the recent blood panels showing an increase in fsh and lh ....

my pct for 6 weeks hdrol 75/75/75/75/100/100 will be
clomid 100/100/50/50
bioforge 4/4/4/4/4/4

[THEHUGE]

I def say bioforge due to the recent blood panels showing an increase in fsh and lh ....

my pct for 6 weeks hdrol 75/75/75/75/100/100 will be
clomid 100/100/50/50
bioforge 4/4/4/4/4/4

Exactly,the increase in LH and FSH is crucial in PCT.

Your plan looks good, I'd reduce the clomid to 50/25/25 EOD tho...

[BASE772]

Would it be benifical to start Bio Forge during the last week of your cycle and then run it through PCT. Say like after a 8 week cycle of Bold at 800. Start Bio Forge on week 7 at 4 caps a day. Then have a PCT like;

Nolva 20/20/10/10
PCS 0/0/4/4/4/4 or 4/4/4/4
Bio Forge 4/4/4/4/4

Is this over kill? Research questions, I'm not on a cycle. But there are a lot of different views on this subject.

[jblaze4lif]

Would it be benifical to start Bio Forge during the last week of your cycle and then run it through PCT. Say like after a 8 week cycle of Bold at 800. Start Bio Forge on week 7 at 4 caps a day. Then have a PCT like;

Nolva 20/20/10/10
PCS 0/0/4/4/4/4 or 4/4/4/4
Bio Forge 4/4/4/4/4

Is this over kill? Research questions, I'm not on a cycle. But there are a lot of different views on this subject.

I wouldnt start it a week prior due to the fact that you are on 800 mg bold. Your body isnt prob not going to start pumping out more lh or fsh just bc you start bioforge.

[jblaze4lif]

Exactly,the increase in LH and FSH is crucial in PCT.

Your plan looks good, I'd reduce the clomid to 50/25/25 EOD tho...

why so little clomid. Thats like going 20/10/10 eod for nolvadex

[THEHUGE]

Would it be benifical to start Bio Forge during the last week of your cycle and then run it through PCT.

That would be a wasted week of Bio Forge.

Also Clomid>Nolvadex....

why so little clomid. Thats like going 20/10/10 eod for nolvadex

It's actually NOT a low dose,50mg work great and given it's long half-life 3 weeks total(tapering down the dosage) are more than enough.

[BASE772]

That would be a wasted week of Bio Forge.

Also Clomid>Nolvadex....

Thanks, Bio Forge during PCT, noted. Wouldn't Nolva be fine on a Bold or H-Drol stand alone cycle? I have been told at my age I should use both Clomid and Nolva at low doses if I decide to run a PH. Sorry OP not trying to hyjack your thread.

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Blue Gene/Blue Up is something to look into as well

[THEHUGE]

Thanks, Bio Forge during PCT, noted. Wouldn't Nolva be fine on a Bold or H-Drol stand alone cycle? I have been told at my age I should use both Clomid and Nolva at low doses if I decide to run a PH. Sorry OP not trying to hyjack your thread.

Using two different SERMs in a row is just broscience....at its worst.
Clomiphene has a much faster effect on HPTA. So for PCT is a no-brainer.

Using the Bio Forge for a couple extra weeks after the SERM's discontinuance will also prevent the estrogen rebound commonly reported.

Not to mention the fantastic libido/mood support and repartitioning effect.

[MuscleWealth]

Search function darling. Tons of logs, reviews and bloodworks.

Definitely used the search button else I wont be listing the mentioned 4 solid products. I have tried Test b4 and am now on AX. Bio Forge and T-bol will be next. In my cupboard already.

[MuscleWealth]

Which works best for one isnt necessary the best for the other.. Are you using this for PCT or as a natural testosterone enhancer?

Both.

[MuscleWealth]

Thanks, Bio Forge during PCT, noted. Wouldn't Nolva be fine on a Bold or H-Drol stand alone cycle? I have been told at my age I should use both Clomid and Nolva at low doses if I decide to run a PH. Sorry OP not trying to hyjack your thread.

No worries. I can learn from you guys.

[MuscleWealth]

Blue Gene/Blue Up is something to look into as well

Yup Blue Gene. Btw, wats the real diff between Blue Gene and Blue Up? If I were to just take 1 product, which would be a better choice?

[MuscleWealth]

For standalone Animal Test is awesome. We don't recommend it for PCT because we don't recommend PH's.

I definitely agree that Test is awesome in the strength department!!! I have tried lots of NO, AX, creatine and even Havoc. But my best strength increase is from Test. Although Havoc lost to Test in strength gain but it does bring my bod to another level.

I will be trying out Trenadrol in mid Aug. Wonder if Trenadrol will beat Test hands down in the strength part? Hmmmm................ Wat do you think?

[nni]

im sorry, but some of these products i would not feel safe using pct standalone. remember, you need to focus on controlling estrogen, and then sitimulating test production. one without the other will not end well.

[THEHUGE]

I have tried Test b4 and am now on AX. Bio Forge and T-bol will be next. In my cupboard already.

Nice. First hand experiences are the only way to rank products.

[MuscleWealth]

im sorry, but some of these products i would not feel safe using pct standalone. remember, you need to focus on controlling estrogen, and then sitimulating test production. one without the other will not end well.

I dont use it just for PCT without other supps like PCS and Reversitol. I combine them together and do a longer PCT. And during my off cycle, I will be using one of the mentioned 4 products as standalone. Will rotate them though. Just wanna find out from the public which is a better product overall only. Its just an info I wanna gather.