Orange Triad and joint pain

[ouija818]

i have noticed since ive been taking orange triad 30 days + i began having pain in my elbows and now my knees have sharp pain the point where i cant squat heavy any more. This is the only thing that has changed in this period i never really had joint pain before taking orange triad besides my shoulder. any suggestions i stopped using orange triad and taking the left over opti men to see if that helps it.

[ouija818]

i have noticed since ive been taking orange triad 30 days + i began having pain in my elbows and now my knees have sharp pain the point where i cant squat heavy any more. This is the only thing that has changed in this period i never really had joint pain before taking orange triad besides my shoulder. any suggestions i stopped using orange triad and taking the left over opti men to see if that helps it.

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[PeanutButterBan]

OT has several ingredients that are well documents as supplements for joint health and flexibility, I doubt very heavily that one of these is causing your joint pain. There are any number of other reasons that could be causing it, including overtraining, stress, and not enough sleep. It could just be that you are lifting too heavy, or maybe you torqued your form without realizing it. I'm not saying its your fault necessarily, but it seems very unlikely that its OT's fault.

[ouija818]

OT has several ingredients that are well documents as supplements for joint health and flexibility, I doubt very heavily that one of these is causing your joint pain. There are any number of other reasons that could be causing it, including overtraining, stress, and not enough sleep. It could just be that you are lifting too heavy, or maybe you torqued your form without realizing it. I'm not saying its your fault necessarily, but it seems very unlikely that its OT's fault.

iam actually done with college so iam getting more sleep ive taken a week off from lifting and i still get pains in my knees when ever i walk down stairs or even bend down to tie my shoes : /.

[theACEofSPADES]

I doubt it's the OT. Anything else you've been doing that might cause it?

You still stretching and warming up correctly?

[PeanutButterBan]

That seems very odd...there are any number of not athletic/supplement related causes for joint pain including getting sick. (Inflammation, caused by bacteria or virus, in the joints and lymph can cause joint pain). Again, I don't doubt you feel the pain, I just don't think OT could cause it. Best of luck getting better though.

[ouija818]

I doubt it's the OT. Anything else you've been doing that might cause it?

You still stretching and warming up correctly?

iam 18 years old so i gues iam still pretty flexible i stetch and warm up with the bike before leg work outs but its not only during exercising i mean its through out the day. I honestly cant think of any thing else : /.

i first noticed elbow pain a week or two after taking orange triad but that subsided but my knees have been killing me to the point of where i needed to create a thread to ask for suggestions. I mean i love controlled labs products tried white flood glycer grow green mag purple wrath and reduction ! but orange triad is the only one iam having trouble with.

[doublexl85]

i really doubt its the OT..
with your training have you increased the amount of weights your lifting on squats and bench? the increased weight couldve put your form out a bit and caused a bit of joint strain..

[ouija818]

its the new orange triad the one thats been revised like a couple months ago.

[ouija818]

i really doubt its the OT..
with your training have you increased the amount of weights your lifting on squats and bench? the increased weight couldve put your form out a bit and caused a bit of joint strain..

weight stayed the same i actually lowered it.

[ouija818]

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[pu12en12g]

weight stayed the same i actually lowered it.

Sounds like you're overtraining

[plus44racer182]

its def not the OT man that has a joint complex made my shoulder feel better

[ouija818]

Sounds like you're overtraining

over training 0_- i havent been able to do a regular leg work out for a month doubt iam over training


iam going to take a couple weeks of ot and see how it goes

[wood.aaronj]

i have noticed since ive been taking orange triad 30 days + i began having pain in my elbows and now my knees have sharp pain the point where i cant squat heavy any more. This is the only thing that has changed in this period i never really had joint pain before taking orange triad besides my shoulder. any suggestions i stopped using orange triad and taking the left over opti men to see if that helps it.

lol @ CL hacks who claim OT cures everything short of cancer + Joint Complex. Now OT is CAUSING joint pain? Nice. Animal Pak FTW.

[SKINS32]

I need to agree with the OP here. The ONLY thing I have changed in my routine was when I ran out of animal Pak I picked up Orange Triad. A week into taking them I am having some serious elbow and shoulder pain. Not DOMS pain but deep aching joint pain. I am going to switch back to the PAK and see if it goes away. I will update.

[Dracoy]

Correlation does not mean causation. Try stopping OT and see what happens.

[TheSmiley]

i have noticed since ive been taking orange triad 30 days + i began having pain in my elbows and now my knees have sharp pain the point where i cant squat heavy any more. This is the only thing that has changed in this period i never really had joint pain before taking orange triad besides my shoulder. any suggestions i stopped using orange triad and taking the left over opti men to see if that helps it.

If anything OT helps with joint pain due to the glucosamine/chondroitin in it. I have rheumatoid arthritis, and before taking OT I was taking a simple glucosamine/chondroitin joint supplement to curb the joint pains (particularly in the knees). OT is really convenient since it's a multi and joint formula so it has definitely helped me a lot w/ concurrent training. I also certainly notice when I slack on my dosages for a continued period, I get joint pains again. I highly doubt OT is the cause of your joint pain.

[KimJong-il]

Sounds like a coincidence.

Its not like you are going to take a supplement and be full proof for injuries.

Be sure you manage your pain properly, this is something you will need to practice as you get older. Look into ice therapy/heat therapy. There is plenty of info online, and go see a doctor if you think its getting serious or not getting any better. You can keep taking the OT.

[blkbelt42]

iam going to take a couple weeks of ot and see how it goes

thats the best option.

[KimJong-il]

thats the best option.

In the meantime he may coincidentally (and as expected) heal and get better naturally and then totally blame OT!!!

[pick0484]

i have noticed since ive been taking orange triad 30 days + i began having pain in my elbows and now my knees have sharp pain the point where i cant squat heavy any more. This is the only thing that has changed in this period i never really had joint pain before taking orange triad besides my shoulder. any suggestions i stopped using orange triad and taking the left over opti men to see if that helps it.

I had the same experience with OT. After taking it for two weeks my elbow began to hurt fairly bad, it was very uncomfortable. I could see swelling and what appeared to possibly be a buildup or deposit of some sort. Three days ago I stopped taking OT and the pain is nearly completely gone.

I do believe that OT make a good product for most but I have seen in a few forums where certain people have this same issue with OT. It is likely your bodies individual ability to metabolize a ingredient in OT is not as strong as normal. I wish I knew which ingredient was causing issues so I could hand pick my multi.

[powercage]

I had the same experience with OT. After taking it for two weeks my elbow began to hurt fairly bad, it was very uncomfortable. I could see swelling and what appeared to possibly be a buildup or deposit of some sort. Three days ago I stopped taking OT and the pain is nearly completely gone.

I do believe that OT make a good product for most but I have seen in a few forums where certain people have this same issue with OT. It is likely your bodies individual ability to metabolize a ingredient in OT is not as strong as normal. I wish I knew which ingredient was causing issues so I could hand pick my multi.

I doubt OT was causing that issue. It is probably coincidence it cleared up on cessation of OT use.

I responded to this comment you made in other threads as well.


I highly doubt it is OT, as there arent any ingredients in there that would do that. There are actually anti-inflammatory properties to the profile

[Xenicore]

I responded to this comment you made in other threads as well.


I highly doubt it is OT, as there arent any ingredients in there that would do that. There are actually anti-inflammatory properties to the profile

I gotta weigh-in on this with my own experiences.

You know, it's the weirdest thing... Nothing in my workouts have changed recently. I cycle the same amount I have been for months. But about 1.5 weeks after starting to take Orange Triad, I was getting achey knees (which spread to my IT band). Not when I work out, mind you--they feel great doing the same stuff I've been doing for months. But when I'm sitting at my desk at work, or laying down to fall asleep at night, my knees are really starting to bother me. I stopped lifting two weeks ago, stopped cycling, started icing my knees a few times a day and generally just eating healthy, not drinking, and getting lots of sleep... and the knee problems persisted. So, last week, I stopped taking OT. Now my knees are fine.

I'm not saying OT is doing something sketchy with their products or anything... but I've been cruising the web looking for correlation from other users of OT and there is something to be said for multiple posts indicating a correlation, anecdotally or otherwise.

On the plus side, my shoulders felt twice as capable of handling heavy loads on OT. So it definitely works. Just wondering about potential side effects...

[powercage]

I gotta weigh-in on this with my own experiences.

You know, it's the weirdest thing... Nothing in my workouts have changed recently. I cycle the same amount I have been for months. But about 1.5 weeks after starting to take Orange Triad, I was getting achey knees (which spread to my IT band). Not when I work out, mind you--they feel great doing the same stuff I've been doing for months. But when I'm sitting at my desk at work, or laying down to fall asleep at night, my knees are really starting to bother me. I stopped lifting two weeks ago, stopped cycling, started icing my knees a few times a day and generally just eating healthy, not drinking, and getting lots of sleep... and the knee problems persisted. So, last week, I stopped taking OT. Now my knees are fine.

I'm not saying OT is doing something sketchy with their products or anything... but I've been cruising the web looking for correlation from other users of OT and there is something to be said for multiple posts indicating a correlation, anecdotally or otherwise.

On the plus side, my shoulders felt twice as capable of handling heavy loads on OT. So it definitely works. Just wondering about potential side effects...

There isnt any way OT will increase joint pain.

You would be seeing pain in joints from anyone taking any joint supplement on the market if glucosamine/chondroitin/msm etc caused joint pain as a side.

[tyson221]

I have to agree with the OP.

I tried taking OT a few months back to help my shoulder and a few days into it started getting pain and popping in left elbow and both knees. Switched back to Opti men and within about 2 weeks was back to normal.

FWIW - since then i tried taking Optimum Glucosamine + Chondroitin supplement for the same shoulder problem and in just a couple days the pain&popping came back in the same elbow and both knees. it feels like a buildup of fluid with airpockets (im no doctor). I think some of us just process this stuff differently or it somehow has a negative effect.


still have 3/4 bottle of OT and a nearly full bottle of the other stuff... oh well live and learn.

[cheatham128]

There isnt any way OT will increase joint pain.

You would be seeing pain in joints from anyone taking any joint supplement on the market if glucosamine/chondroitin/msm etc caused joint pain as a side.

Its possible it could be another ingredient besides those, with that many people coming forward saying they have been having problems who knows. Every person's body is different looking at it from a scientific side you can't rule out every ingredient considering there are so many, I'm sure msm glucosamine chondroitin have nothing to do with it. Could be anything.

*But it is such a small percentage of people that are having side effects this is almost natural with any product that many use.

[powercage]

Its possible it could be another ingredient besides those, with that many people coming forward saying they have been having problems who knows. Every person's body is different looking at it from a scientific side you can't rule out every ingredient considering there are so many, I'm sure msm glucosamine chondroitin have nothing to do with it. Could be anything.

*But it is such a small percentage of people that are having side effects this is almost natural with any product that many use.

I dont believe there are any ingredients in there that would have this side. You dont see an increased joint degradation with a multi for instance.

Symptomology is most likely coincidental/placebo

[grant2680]

Hey dude im a trainer and like the last guy said it could b anything from ur form when squating the weight, could also b ur not stretchi.g or foam rolling may help cause ur legs could b so tight and u may not even kno it. But i would ice it and reat it till u feel better then get a professional to check ur form and give u some tips. Hope u feel bettee dude ur too young for pain there all ready. Holla!

[powercage]

Hey dude im a trainer and like the last guy said it could b anything from ur form when squating the weight, could also b ur not stretchi.g or foam rolling may help cause ur legs could b so tight and u may not even kno it. But i would ice it and reat it till u feel better then get a professional to check ur form and give u some tips. Hope u feel bettee dude ur too young for pain there all ready. Holla!

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