OFFICIAL: Poker thread part3

[DexterGT]

i limp KK because I see TV pros do it alot.

Well I duno, maybe they trapin' too, Im too scare to put it in and they win it u know? Too much money I had $1200 in front of me!

play lower and risk less if the fear of losing that much will affect your decisions..

[Wtf?]

ok guys this is the story of my online play today. I get Pocket KK in big blind. The table is 9 persons, everyone min bet preflop. I think ok my KK is good hand I will Trapp them if theres no ace on flop.

So I just checked, Flop came K K A !!! Im very very happy. So I checked to tarp. Then one guy behind me bets like pot. Then another raise his bet about 4 times! I was soooo happy! Then 2 guys after them called. I called also.

Then turn comes A!! So I think I got good hand, so I check to tarp, the guy behind me goes all in. then the other 3 guys ALL GO ALL IN!!! Im like WTF? R u serious? I think and think and think because I think they have AA. Until 5 second to go, I folded my KK. Is that good play guise? I'll tell u what they hab later.


Btw, what iz 3 bet and C-bet I see u guise talkin about all the time? How do I calculate the % like I see on TV????

[Tim035]

wtf happen in this thread, 10 or so pages back it was all serious talk about how to manage bankroll and move up limits... Now it's just a bunch of sad stories from guys who think they got bad beat by slow playing high pockets.

[Wtf?]

i limp KK because I see TV pros do it alot.

Well I duno, maybe they trapin' too, Im too scare to put it in and they win it u know? Too much money I had $1200 in front of me!

I doubt seriousness.

But I do have to say...with FT, I have noticed so many times if someone has pocket K's, another person at the table has pocket A's.

The game just seems to be.."rigged" that way.

[latsftw]

wtf happen in this thread, 10 or so pages back it was all serious talk about how to manage bankroll and move up limits... Now it's just a bunch of sad stories from guys who think they got bad beat by slow playing high pockets.

Or experienced players telling amusing stories. There seems to be a lot of new inexperienced players posting poorly played hands here, maybe the experienced guys could actually help them instead of flaming them. Just sayin..

[DexterGT]

I doubt seriousness.

But I do have to say...with FT, I have noticed so many times if someone has pocket K's, another person at the table has pocket A's.

The game just seems to be.."rigged" that way.

same thing on stars, but it happens less often than you think, its just that every time someone has KK VS AA they will get it in and you will see the showdown.. when if 1 person in the table has AA or KK and the rest weak hands you wont be seeing a showdown very often

[Scofield]

ok guys this is the story of my online play today. I get Pocket KK in big blind. The table is 9 persons, everyone min bet preflop. I think ok my KK is good hand I will Trapp them if theres no ace on flop.

So I just checked, Flop came K K A !!! Im very very happy. So I checked to tarp. Then one guy behind me bets like pot. Then another raise his bet about 4 times! I was soooo happy! Then 2 guys after them called. I called also.

Then turn comes A!! So I think I got good hand, so I check to tarp, the guy behind me goes all in. then the other 3 guys ALL GO ALL IN!!! Im like WTF? R u serious? I think and think and think because I think they have AA. Until 5 second to go, I folded my KK. Is that good play guise? I'll tell u what they hab later.


Btw, what iz 3 bet and C-bet I see u guise talkin about all the time? How do I calculate the % like I see on TV????

Its obvious one had AA, good fold brah. not many guys can lay dem quads down

[DeathByLight]

Its obvious one had AA, good fold brah. not many guys can lay dem quads down

each of them turn with with one ace on each hand. FML!

[Smurg]

Anyone else here play CAP No Limit ?

Frickin fish flock to this game. And the nits don't play optimally either.

Shoving over a 3x + flat for 1/4 BI profit feels good man. + equity if they call.

Right now I'm trying to stick to a 40-50 BI rule but I have taken some successful shots at the next level.

[joelz54_99]

I'd love to see the entire handhistory. (seriously)

I start copying/saving the hands. I just started looking at these threads. They are very informative.

[Crease1234]

I'm not a sore loser, I can deal with losing, but yesterday I was banging on the monitor screen with SO many bad beats.

Its nights like yesterday that makes me wonder whether fulltilt is really rigged, with other bots or something.

[joelz54_99]

Last night I shiit you not I got a continous flow of shiit hands. A minimum of 30 hands were shiit. I got desperate and lost the sng after I was way ahead.

Can someone advice me on what to do in this situation?

And everyone was carefully playing thier cards so there were a lot of folds.

[blacksmith77]

I'm not a sore loser, I can deal with losing, but yesterday I was banging on the monitor screen with SO many bad beats.

Its nights like yesterday that makes me wonder whether fulltilt is really rigged, with other bots or something.

full tilt sucks

[Loctus]

I'm not a sore loser, I can deal with losing, but yesterday I was banging on the monitor screen with SO many bad beats.

Its nights like yesterday that makes me wonder whether fulltilt is really rigged, with other bots or something.

Just wait until you run 20 buyins under EV in one night. THEN you'll start questioning it for real.

[Wtf?]

I'm not a sore loser, I can deal with losing, but yesterday I was banging on the monitor screen with SO many bad beats.

Its nights like yesterday that makes me wonder whether fulltilt is really rigged, with other bots or something.

I've had days/nights like that too where it seems every game I'm getting **** hands. ALL Low cards and if I do get an A or a K it's with something like a 2. Then another day/game, I'll be getting the good hands.

I was telling my friend about it who was watching the game and talking to me in IM and all he could say is "you're on tilt". I'm like yeah, "tilted" because FT gives me **** hand after another.


I was watching a game yesterday... FT "Pro" in one of those one cent games. Even he was making stupid plays and getting his ass kicked. He raised with Q's and then after the turn and river there was an easy flush there, he's still calling his little Q's and someone beat him with a flush. I lol'd. Personally, I would've folded assuming that one of the other 2 guys had that one suit to make a flush.

[OMGEnglemanChan]

A recommendation I'd make to players who feel they are getting unlucky in a session is to sit out and wait until they are clear headed. A lot of the times you may be experiencing genuine bad luck, but this is further compounded by frustration and a short term fall in confidence in your abilities. This is why some players have stop losses - Phil Ivey sits out of big games some times, even if he's played a relatively small amount of hands. I know that I have a stop loss and the times I don't adhere to it and lose more $ occur more often than the times I don't adhere to it and make money. Every one thinks they are tilt proof and that bad beats don't affect them, but all else being equal it's best to play with confidence and a level head, so waiting until you are truly over bad beats can't hurt too much.

[joelz54_99]

A recommendation I'd make to players who feel they are getting unlucky in a session is to sit out and wait until they are clear headed. A lot of the times you may be experiencing genuine bad luck, but this is further compounded by frustration and a short term fall in confidence in your abilities. This is why some players have stop losses - Phil Ivey sits out of big games some times, even if he's played a relatively small amount of hands. I know that I have a stop loss and the times I don't adhere to it and lose more $ occur more often than the times I don't adhere to it and make money. Every one thinks they are tilt proof and that bad beats don't affect them, but all else being equal it's best to play with confidence and a level head, so waiting until you are truly over bad beats can't hurt too much.

Thanks man. I will do this for now on. I try to play through bad sessions/bad hands and get impatient and frustrated and start playing high face card. Usually does not end well.

[Dippysauce]

You guys playing with 3-4buyins should seriously read up on BRM and variance, you're a session away from bustoville.

wtf how could he call that bet tho? yea he had TT but there were many hands that beat him.

10x the bb preflop, your hand is faceup brah.

Just wait until you run 20 buyins under EV in one night. THEN you'll start questioning it for real.

PLO?

[DeathByLight]

Here's a genuine tip: Set up a Stop Loss each session. I recommend 4-5 Buy ins. When you lose 4-5 buy ins, STOP playing. Regroup and come fight another day. Because whether you realize it or not, you're not in the best state of mind when you're down 5 buy ins. Mental strength is also very important in poker.

[OMGEnglemanChan]

And here I was about to complain about my session lul. Down 1bi but should be up ~7bi, mostly due to bad beats. I'm actually rather happy with myself considering the constant barrage of cock slaps I received - FH over FH twice, set over set once, 2nd nut flush v nut flush + the usual loss of flips and 70/30. To the tilt monkeys going ape over one or two bad beats, notice how I'm still level headed ^_^ no angst, about it.

fuu so many bad players online atm

EDIT: top 2 v bottom set lolol

Well, in summary, a -9bi day I'd say the mix of bad play/bad run is about 80/20 (no exaggeration kk ^_^). Hopefully I'll pick it up soon. Sucks though! This is my largest downswing ever at any limit I believe, maybe I had a 10bi DS at NL50, mostly as a result of running bad (not getting coolered, running bad). /gg pokers

[Crease1234]

full tilt sucks

Just wait until you run 20 buyins under EV in one night. THEN you'll start questioning it for real.

So, what you guys are telling me, is that there are some possible grounds to my suspicions??

[Dippysauce]

So, what you guys are telling me, is that there are some possible grounds to my suspicions??

You wouldn't be saying fulltilt was rigged if you were dishing out the bad beats and running 20BI above ev.

Online poker is not rigged. Fulltilt makes millions everyday, there would be no sense in risking everything just to make a little extra on the side.

[blacksmith77]

im not saying its rigged i just have really bad beats on it have dne so since day 1
i moved to Pstars and my BR tripled in a week

[The Prime Nip]

I'm not a sore loser, I can deal with losing, but yesterday I was banging on the monitor screen with SO many bad beats.

Its nights like yesterday that makes me wonder whether fulltilt is really rigged, with other bots or something.

I've had this happen in live games at the casino where you play a lot fewer hands. It's poker.

[Reservoir Dog]

Just had a nice little rush, including my first royal flush in hold'em. These were like 2 hands apart.

I'm "aaron4AU" btw


Full Tilt Poker Game #15074815234: Table Wisk (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:20:58 ET - 2009/10/02
Seat 1: el_kabel ($21.49)
Seat 2: Rubin Cook ($26.98)
Seat 3: Aaron4AU ($33.27)
Seat 4: Dan5by5 ($25.58)
Seat 5: elconho ($21.85)
Seat 6: reivilo77 ($24.76), is sitting out
elconho posts the small blind of $0.10
el_kabel posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aaron4AU [Qc Jc]
Rubin Cook folds
Aaron4AU raises to $0.75
Dan5by5 raises to $2.50
elconho folds
el_kabel folds
Aaron4AU calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [Kc 9c Ac]
Aaron4AU checks
Dan5by5 has 15 seconds left to act
Dan5by5 bets $4
Aaron4AU calls $4
*** TURN *** [Kc 9c Ac] [5s]
Aaron4AU checks
reivilo77 has returned
Dan5by5 has 15 seconds left to act
Dan5by5 bets $19.08, and is all in
Aaron4AU calls $19.08
Dan5by5 shows [Kd As]
Aaron4AU shows [Qc Jc]
*** RIVER *** [Kc 9c Ac 5s] [Tc]
Dan5by5 shows two pair, Aces and Kings
Aaron4AU shows a Royal Flush
Aaron4AU wins the pot ($48.94) with a Royal Flush
Dan5by5 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $51.51 | Rake $2.57
Board: [Kc 9c Ac 5s Tc]
Seat 1: el_kabel (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Rubin Cook didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Aaron4AU showed [Qc Jc] and won ($48.94) with a Royal Flush
Seat 4: Dan5by5 (button) showed [Kd As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: elconho (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: reivilo77 is sitting out




Full Tilt Poker Game #15074870889: Table Wisk (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:24:07 ET - 2009/10/02
Seat 1: el_kabel ($20.74)
Seat 2: Rubin Cook ($26.21)
Seat 3: Aaron4AU ($62.54)
Seat 4: mprice024 ($25)
Seat 5: elconho ($19.25)
Seat 6: reivilo77 ($22.16)
Aaron4AU posts the small blind of $0.10
mprice024 has 5 seconds left to act
mprice024 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aaron4AU [Kd Qs]
elconho folds
reivilo77 folds
reivilo77 stands up
el_kabel folds
Rubin Cook folds
Aaron4AU raises to $0.75
mprice024 has 15 seconds left to act
mprice024 raises to $2.50
Aaron4AU calls $1.75
*** FLOP *** [3d Qh 4h]
Barbara Easten sits down
Barbara Easten adds $25
Aaron4AU has 15 seconds left to act
Aaron4AU checks
mprice024 has 15 seconds left to act
mprice024 bets $3
Aaron4AU raises to $6
mprice024 has 15 seconds left to act
mprice024 has requested TIME
mprice024 raises to $22.50, and is all in
Aaron4AU calls $16.50
mprice024 shows [Qc 6c]
Aaron4AU shows [Kd Qs]
*** TURN *** [3d Qh 4h] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [3d Qh 4h 8h] [2s]
mprice024 shows a pair of Queens
Aaron4AU shows a pair of Queens
Aaron4AU wins the pot ($47.50) with a pair of Queens

The all-in call I made on the second hand is questionable but I just had a gut feeling I was ahead.

[blacksmith77]

you guys think raising with QJ suited is a good idea? i normally call

[fergman311]

you guys think raising with QJ suited is a good idea? i normally call

Depends if you have position IMO.

[blacksmith77]

Depends if you have position IMO.

i think late position in s'n'go's yeah but in cash games ?

[lacey23]

Calling with any hand is ghey if there's no raise in front of you. If there isn't then it's a fold or raise dependant on position, people behind you, people in the blinds etc...

If there's already been a raise it's situational. Dependent on how many people have called. position. potential fish that might call from the blinds as well. Openers range. etc...

[fergman311]

i think late position in s'n'go's yeah but in cash games ?

I raise it mid to late position if there is no raise before me. I would call any raise 2x or 3x the big blind generally. Also have to think about the villian(s) and how they play. I try not to limp with any decent hand. By limping you are potentially allowing more players in that shouldn't be. That's when you end up seeing a 2 6 Q board and end up calling down, and villian flips over 2 6.

Just my 2 cents, I in no way claim to be a good player though haha.