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    What I get more sick of is people overexaggerating what Fox news says
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
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    LOL Wut?
    epic brain fart, for some reason I was thinking about Richard Wright.
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    i just like how everyone on fox news is all of a sudden fiscally conservative. none of them said anything when bush was in office
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    they are bias..

    but they do use facts to send they're message.
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    "Socialist" is the new "Liberal". Apparently liberal wasn't alarmist enough.

    It's just a fear-inducing buzzword that right wingnut wackjobs use as a weapon of dis-information.

    Socialism is a political theory centered around the total ownership of the means of production by the state.

    The banking crisis and subsequent purchase of defaulted banks by the gov't is the closest thing to Socialism that has been discussed.
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    Originally Posted by TaoistWarrior View Post
    "Socialist" is the new "Liberal". Apparently liberal wasn't alarmist enough.

    It's just a fear-inducing buzzword that right wingnut wackjobs use as a weapon of dis-information.

    Socialism is a political theory centered around the total ownership of the means of production by the state.

    The banking crisis and subsequent purchase of defaulted banks by the gov't is the closest thing to Socialism that has been discussed.
    I thought communism had state ownership of the means of production, while socialism just controlled it but left it in the private sector.
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    MSNBC is more biased than FOX yet no one says anything about them.
    u mad?

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    NPR anyone?
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    I thought communism had state ownership of the means of production, while socialism just controlled it but left it in the private sector.
    Political theorist joke that a Communist is just "a Socialist in a hurry."

    Socialism usually refers to an economic system, while Communism often encompasses the economic and political systems. Communists' ultimate goal is the elimination of class-ism. Socialism tends to be more moderate. Kinda like neo-conservatism and fascism.
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    Originally Posted by TaoistWarrior View Post
    Political theorist joke that a Communist is just "a Socialist in a hurry."

    Socialism usually refers to an economic system, while Communism often encompasses the economic and political systems. Communists' ultimate goal is the elimination of class-ism. Socialism tends to be more moderate. Kinda like neo-conservatism and fascism.
    Hm., I look at economic system as going in one of two directions. more government and more control, or less government and less control. Bush and now Obama are both going in the same direction. Guess which one that is? Obama isn't a socialist, I think fascist is more accurate, just like Bush. I guessing you might disagree.
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    Originally Posted by GottaBeHUGE View Post
    Obama is going to be more of a communist than socialist
    The reason people say that is because Obama wanted to raise taxes on the super rich from 36% to 39%, That's being a communist?
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    Originally Posted by lunchbox12 View Post
    because obama is a socialist you retard

    whats wrong with stating the truth
    The US doesn't even have a "left" party by definition.

    They do down HERE. It's way different. Obama isn't as far right, which is different to being a "socialist" or "communist"

    SO STFU.

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    fox news is for entertainment purposes only. I dont think anyone with a mind of thier own really takes what they have to heart...I just watch for the lulz.
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    Originally Posted by TaoistWarrior View Post

    Socialism is a political theory centered around the total ownership of the means of production by the state.
    That is State Socialism. True Socialism is public ownership of production.

    Ronald Reagan was the one that made manifest that America truly isn't a free market economy, or capitalist. His administration was the one that bailed out failing businesses, trying to use the trickle down theory. The problem was that the money didn't trickle down; the CEOs pocketed a decent portion, and its happening again.
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    Yeah everyone knows by now Fox is a Republican channel
    and CNN is on obama's jock channel.
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    The truth hurts. Especially when your a cnn or msnbc nut-hugger.

    this
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    Originally Posted by DewCr3w88 View Post
    this
    If only they spoke the truth when mentioning socialism.
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    Before 50 people point it out, Foxnews is actually most watched among the main 3 cable networks. That doesn't say anything for the quality of it, but Americans are typically more conservative so I can understand why it is watched more.
    lol, no wonder an average middle-class American has a really warped view of history, politics, society...
    God save us from Faux news...
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    I thought communism had state ownership of the means of production, while socialism just controlled it but left it in the private sector.
    no,
    Communism is a state-less , classless society...
    No society has ever been 'communist'. (As long as there's a state, there can be no communism)...
    What you're referring to is 'socialism'... (that is the state ownership of the means of production but remeber that concept of state is a worker's DEMOCRACY, that is owned by all men)...
    US is not even this iota close to socialism (state ownership is a possibility here but still means rule of a handful of oligarchs)
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    fox news is not news.

    Did you see the "Greg-A-Logue" last night?

    He literally told me I was worse than Hitler for supporting Obama. I think I would have broken his nose in real life. Well probably not but, fukk fox news with a splintery stick
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    Originally Posted by MiniZiper View Post
    The US doesn't even have a "left" party by definition.

    They do down HERE. It's way different. Obama isn't as far right, which is different to being a "socialist" or "communist"

    SO STFU.

    With that said. RON PAUL FTW.
    lol, dont even try that ****.

    Obama is pretty damn far to the left on some things no matter what country you are from. His views on 3rd trimester abortion's for example.
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    Originally Posted by HeavyShadow View Post
    Really? The dictionary definition of "fascist" is:
    fas⋅cist   /ˈf?ʃɪst/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [fash-ist] Show IPA
    ?noun 1. a person who believes in or sympathizes with fascism.
    2. (often initial capital letter) a member of a fascist movement or party.
    3. a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.

    sounds more like Bush/Cheney to me.
    fascism does not mean you must be right wing.

    Woodrow Wilson was fascist and not right-wing.
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    Originally Posted by TaoistWarrior View Post
    "Socialist" is the new "Liberal". Apparently liberal wasn't alarmist enough.

    It's just a fear-inducing buzzword that right wingnut wackjobs use as a weapon of dis-information.

    Socialism is a political theory centered around the total ownership of the means of production by the state.

    The banking crisis and subsequent purchase of defaulted banks by the gov't is the closest thing to Socialism that has been discussed.
    uhh no.

    That would be Communism. That is, the practical form of Communism that is/has been implemented. The theoretical version is irrelevant as it can never be implemented.
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    Originally Posted by MiniZiper View Post
    The US doesn't even have a "left" party by definition.

    They do down HERE. It's way different. Obama isn't as far right, which is different to being a "socialist" or "communist"

    SO STFU.

    With that said. RON PAUL FTW.
    This....
    The democratic party doesn't represent the historic 'Left' in its totality at all....
    Both parties are basically tools of big business (one wants to give it complete reign, the other wants to act as intermediary)...

    Democratic party basically acts as nurse to genocidal capitalism...
    whenever it's threatened, it comes in with a hot bottle
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    Originally Posted by Ethan Carr View Post
    Fox News Channel: Fair and Balanced...yeah right. Fox News is incredibly biased and I hate the radical conservative spin they put on news.

    "FAUX NEWS: FAIRLY UNBALANCED"
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    Originally Posted by CHS55 View Post
    Tell me how Obama is a socialist. I do acknowledge that some acts of legislation could be categorized as state socialist, but they need to specify. Its as imbecilic as saying that America is a free market economy.
    Stop trying to overcomplicate the matter. How is wanting socialized health care not socialist? Lulz.

    Originally Posted by DontTreadOnMe View Post
    every channel is biased but only fox gets attacked, wonder why

    also, age: 16
    This x100000.

    Originally Posted by KoninkrijkBelgie View Post
    Who the **** watches Fox News first of all?
    Highest rated news channel.

    BTW,

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    Originally Posted by CurDawg View Post
    What I get more sick of is people overexaggerating what Fox news says
    This.

    FOX News is not gospel. However, the amount of people who are putting blind faith in Obama to run the government is allowing the government to f*ck everything up. O'Reilly is too conservative for me on some issues, especially involving religion (i'm not religious), but he is spot on quite a bit politically.
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    The only people that I know who watch CNN and do the whole "FAUX NEWS" attack bull**** are complete idiots. Smart people watch FOX News. If you're a mega-liberal, at least watch something intelligent (ie: Real Time w/ Bill Maher).
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    Originally Posted by tmc. View Post
    The only people that I know who watch CNN and do the whole "FAUX NEWS" attack bull**** are complete idiots. Smart people watch FOX News. If you're a mega-liberal, at least watch something intelligent (ie: Real Time w/ Bill Maher).
    Smart people read the Wall Street Journal and leave cable news to the idiots
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    Watching/listening to Fox News or MSNBC's political stuff makes people dumber. MSNBC may be slightly worse for giving that chick with the buzzcut that looks like a man her own show.
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