BCAA and Pre in the same shaker. Is this ok?

[GHfitness2012]

I`m curious about the the BCAA (powder) being better free-form going into your body. So mixing it with my Pre workout shake, would that have an effect on them? And also the same for the Pre. Would it have any effect on that too?

[nikeoneplatinum]

The caffeine in the pre will affect the absorption of the bcaa's, they'll be slightly less effective.

[koweanguy]

I`m curious about the the BCAA (powder) being better free-form going into your body. So mixing it with my Pre workout shake, would that have an effect on them? And also the same for the Pre. Would it have any effect on that too?

Why not sip BCAA's for intra?
Tastes much more better than water

[llahhsoj]

No issue with that. That is what I do on occasion.

[emergency]

Just go with the BCAA intra or post

[pierces]

The caffeine in the pre will affect the absorption of the bcaa's, they'll be slightly less effective.

I'm curious to know the science behind this. Any amplifying information on this would be awesome, because sometimes I feel like I should just blend a lot of supps together and throw it down the hatch.

[Fabs23]

My pre workout drink is

PWO(Hyde or Bullnox I go back and forth almost daily)
Carbolyn
Alpha Amino (Cellucor)

Mix that all into one about 45 mins before workout. I have heard the amino loses some effectiveness when mixes with pwo but I got nothing to lose by dropping it in there either.

[The Solution]

Why not sip BCAA's for intra?
Tastes much more better than water

Because BCAA's are much better for pre-workout fasted training or as a bolus between meals 4-6 hours apart (read below)

EAA's are more important intra-workout

WHY EAA's more important than BCAA intra-workout:
but EAAs may impart some endurance-like effects that BCAAs simply cannot.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/94/3/809.long

This is the only study done in trained humans consuming EAAs during the workout. These are legit, military-trained personnel doing both resistance and endurance work.

The findings?

"In summary, consumption of a 10-g dose of EAA enriched with leucine during moderate endurance-type exercise stimulated increased MPS when compared with an isonitrogenous EAA supplement with an amino acid profile consistent with high-quality proteins. These data indicate that increasing leucine availability during steady state exercise promotes skeletal muscle protein anabolism and spares endogenous protein."


Cliffs:

These EAAs increased postworkout MPS by 33% when consumed during exercise
The drink with the highest leucine content spared muscle to the greatest degree

I`m curious about the the BCAA (powder) being better free-form going into your body. So mixing it with my Pre workout shake, would that have an effect on them? And also the same for the Pre. Would it have any effect on that too?

BCAA's would only benefit you for fasted AM Training dosed pre-workout or as a bolus between meals 4-6 hours apart

http://www.biolayne.com/wp-content/u...-Tech-2008.pdf
http://www.slideshare.net/biolayne/o...nd-muscle-mass

[hossjob]

Solution,

I'm curious (I did not read the study), it stated EAA's were better than BCAA, but then stated that the drink with greater leucine was more beneficial for muscle sparing. If the latter is the determining factor, then wouldn't a serving of either bcaa or eaa with a larger or equal amount of leucine work the same?

[shawnbellon]

Solution,

I'm curious (I did not read the study), it stated EAA's were better than BCAA, but then stated that the drink with greater leucine was more beneficial for muscle sparing. If the latter is the determining factor, then wouldn't a serving of either bcaa or eaa with a larger or equal amount of leucine work the same?

Kyle shouldnt you be working with your students?

[The Solution]

Solution,

I'm curious (I did not read the study), it stated EAA's were better than BCAA, but then stated that the drink with greater leucine was more beneficial for muscle sparing. If the latter is the determining factor, then wouldn't a serving of either bcaa or eaa with a larger or equal amount of leucine work the same?

EAA's intraworkout
BCAA's pre-workout or between meals spaced 4-6 hours apart read below

http://www.biolayne.com/wp-content/u...-Tech-2008.pdf
http://www.slideshare.net/biolayne/o...nd-muscle-mass

[Fabs23]

EAA's intraworkout
BCAA's pre-workout or between meals spaced 4-6 hours apart read below

http://www.biolayne.com/wp-content/u...-Tech-2008.pdf
http://www.slideshare.net/biolayne/o...nd-muscle-mass

I love these type of threads...you don't know what you don't know. And I didnt know this^^.

[kardoxo]

Yes you can do that.

[poison]

The caffeine in the pre will affect the absorption of the bcaa's, they'll be slightly less effective.

No, that's not true. It's fine to mix.

[co1e_train]

I`m curious about the the BCAA (powder) being better free-form going into your body. So mixing it with my Pre workout shake, would that have an effect on them? And also the same for the Pre. Would it have any effect on that too?

There is no issue with that at all.

[Goldeneagle76]

on fasted training days just started mixing my Grape Bullnox with grape USP Modern BCAA's. Have not read any research that this will not be beneficial.

[llahhsoj]

on fasted training days just started mixing my Grape Bullnox with grape USP Modern BCAA's. Have not read any research that this will not be beneficial.

Your body will still absorb the BCAAs. Nothing wrong with that.

[jack5083]

I typically mix 1/2 of my BCAAs with my pre and mix the other half and drink as intra