so i'm just finishing up my summer cut and plan on giving a PH a shot for my fall/winter bulk. after reading over various forums for the past month or so this is the rough draft of what seems best for a first time run. how does it look? any thoughts, comments, opinions, etc would be much appreciated especially with the dosing of nolva.
Precycle(2 weeks)
-liver longer--2 caps ED
-cycle support--2 scoops ED
Cycle(4 weeks)
-h-drol--2 pills ED(50 mg)
-liver longer--2 caps ED
-cycle support--2 scoops ED
Post Cycle(4 weeks)
-nolva--40/20/20/10
-might also throw in lean xtreme
-will finish remaining bottle of cs
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Thread: first ph cycle: h-drol
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08-01-2008, 07:16 PM #1
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first ph cycle: h-drol
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08-01-2008, 07:29 PM #8
If you are not going to run the Nolva no need to extend the Cycle Support into pct a Post Cycle Support and Reversitol combo pct has been mentioned a few times as of the last few days looks interesting. I wish you the best feel free to ask anymore questions. I will levae you a link on otc pct that may help.
www.otcpct.com<<<<PH/DS Family Member>>>>
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08-01-2008, 07:32 PM #9
Ya just go with cycle support. and you might want to consider going into 5 weeks. My first ph i ran h-drol and regret only running it 4 weeks. I had literally zero sides, and i didn't even run a liver support. It takes a while to kick in for me it didn't really kick in until the 3rd week which kinda sucked. That was the only downside to it.
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08-02-2008, 06:25 AM #16
Personally, if there was a legal source of pharmaceutical quality products available at a reasonable price, I would agree with you. Unfortunately, I don't know of one. The thought of using research chemicals makes me very uneasy. And, that's the only source I've got for a "real" SERM. Even if I found some place on line that was selling a SERM meant for human consumption, I can't get a prescription. So, it wouldn't be legal for me to purchase and use it - getting caught could lead to big problems in my life.
Because of these issues, OTC options - especially those that have been known to work well for others - often end up being the lessor of the evils. I wish that weren't the case. But I don't see things changing any time soon.
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08-02-2008, 11:07 AM #17
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08-02-2008, 04:47 PM #20
I would save the Liver Longer as that stuff is expensive and the CS will cover your liver for such a mild cycle.
Also, I'd probably save the nolva and just keep it on hand just in case. I'm personally going to give Reversitol a shot for my next H-drol cycle and I'll probably pair it with Post Cycle Support just to be safe.
If you have nolva on hand then I'd suggest buying a second bottle of H-drol since it's cheap, running it at 50mg for 2 weeks and then bumping it to 75mg for 4 weeks. This ends up using every pill. In this case, I'd say use the nolva since you'll be a little more shut down after 6 weeks of use although it's STILL pretty mild. I ran a Bold/H-drol cycle for 10 weeks total and I've been on pct for 2.5 weeks and feel 100% great. (Bold for 8 weeks and h-drol starting on week 5 for 6 weeks)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=108448211
You'll love the H-drol. I plan on an H-drol solo run over the winter because I love the stuff so much. I hope you bought CEL's. I've found theirs to be the best.
Oh, and on the nolva... I dosed mine 40mgs for 3 days, 30mgs for 4 days, 20mgs for 1 week, and 10mgs for 2 weeks. I'm also using some Post Cycle Support since I was on such a long cycle and had combined it with Bold.Last edited by Chris@UGA; 08-02-2008 at 04:52 PM.
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