weighted dips, trap deads...what's the problem?

[Fasttaker]

Okay, please confirm:
1. weighted parallel-bar dip (leaning forward) is comparable to bench press.
2. trap-bar deadlifts (on platform) are comparable to squats.
3. stiff-legged dealifts, overhead presses, rows, and weighted chins are great mass builders.

If you agreed with the above statements, then tell me why I have to have a bench? What is wrong with an at-home routine that utilizes all of the above exercises along with heavy weights? I'm just trying to understand people who say that lack of bench pressing is what's wrong with my training.

[PansyLad]

Whoever said you had to bench? Whoever said that a routine with those exercises and heavy weights was wrong?

[qdiddy69]

1 correct
2 wrong, deads focus more on back then legs, squats really focus on legs
3 correct

[Walnut]

1 correct
2 wrong, deads focus more on back then legs, squats really focus on legs
3 correct

I disagree. Using the trap bar you can isolate more of your legs but you're doing more a hanging squat at that point. I do deads on my legs day not my back day

[qdiddy69]

I disagree. Using the trap bar you can isolate more of your legs but you're doing more a hanging squat at that point. I do deads on my legs day not my back day

well it does wokr the legs, depending on variations it could be more focused on it, but compare to squats or leg press, it is no where near the leg workout.
my back is always dead after a dead lift workout my legs are always dead after squats

[00Baller]

what do 2 and 3 have to do with chest/bench?

[Fasttaker]

Whoever said you had to bench? Whoever said that a routine with those exercises and heavy weights was wrong?

I had another thread where everyone said I couldn't expect good gains, since I workout at home and don't have a bench or squat rack. To me, weighted parallel bar dips, trap bar squats (on platform), and stiff legged deadlifts are almost as good as bench presses, regular squats, and deadlifts. And I'm also doing barbell rows, weighted chins, overhead presses, barbell curls, and upright rows. But everyone in my other thread said my routine was incomplete. I had a feeling no one was really reading my 2nd post in that thread, and this new thread is sort of proving it.

[qdiddy69]

I had another thread where everyone said I couldn't expect good gains, since I workout at home and don't have a bench or squat rack. To me, weighted parallel bar dips, trap bar squats (on platform), and stiff legged deadlifts are almost as good as bench presses, regular squats, and deadlifts. And I'm also doing barbell rows, weighted chins, overhead presses, barbell curls, and upright rows. But everyone in my other thread said my routine was incomplete. I had a feeling no one was really reading my 2nd post in that thread, and this new thread is sort of proving it.

weighted dips are good,some say better then bench. and so is deads is amazing espicially for gaining test, rows are also good, stiff leg deads are best for hammies in my oppionion, only thing id say is try to find something to focus your quads a lil more if you dont feel their getting hit that well from your deads

[fbcoach]

I had another thread where everyone said I couldn't expect good gains, since I workout at home and don't have a bench or squat rack. To me, weighted parallel bar dips, trap bar squats (on platform), and stiff legged deadlifts are almost as good as bench presses, regular squats, and deadlifts. And I'm also doing barbell rows, weighted chins, overhead presses, barbell curls, and upright rows. But everyone in my other thread said my routine was incomplete. I had a feeling no one was really reading my 2nd post in that thread, and this new thread is sort of proving it.

You can get as big as your genetics allow using weighted dips, trapbar deads, and deadlifts. The only small problem is you need to change things up due to neural adaptation (CNS, psychological, muscle kinetics, etc.) Changing the rep ranges and cycling can help.