Navy SEALS vs. Marine RECON vs. Air Force Pararescue vs. Army Rangers

[vls]

i hate fat kids

Well we all hate ignorant people too... Wow dude!

[TexasT]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but Rangers were only recently labeled a "Special Forces" group. They were always infantry; elite and effective, but not SF.

Besides, these jobs vary WILDLY in task. SEALs plant bombs on enemy boats (among other things), RECON is exactly what the name implies, PJs are paramedics, etc.. You'd have to figure out which you'd want to be and then make it happen depending on what kind of job you'd like to do.

[thesik1]

All you retards who say anything other than SEAL.. can shoot yourself in the face ask any active duty person in any military branch and you will get one answer.. SEAL is second to no one. it is the hardest training offered by the military.

[thesik1]

first off the be a "SEAL" u need to be invited to UDT basic underwater demo training ,then u have to be to 10% of you class to get the invite , and u need to be a E4 in rank and den u have to be in a combat type job b4 u go to UDT to go to BUDS , to be a overrated SEAL,

RANGER BABY, we do all the jobs they do and more , unless its SEAL team 6 or 7 then u got to be the top 10% all of SEALS , and screw them we got DELTA wich is the best of the best end of story ,

but i love all my SF bother

You must me a retarded bullet spunge.. no wonder the Army accepts 20's on the asvab.... for one SEAL isnt overrated 2 Rangers dont do anything close to SEAL teams and 3 DELTA ISNT ARMY RETARD its ANY military branch...

[nbakerusaf]

Pararescue all the way, the did a special on the military channel where each spec ops program had to penetrate, rescue hostages, and extract in a certain time, PJ's owned!

[JaWBreaKeR7o7]

first and foremost, im an active duty Marine, LAR by trade, but even aside from the natural bias thoughts from anyone thats involved, this guy raises some pretty interesting points..


During the Korean War, a captured North Korean officer confessed, "Panic sweeps my men when they are facing the American Marines."

Chinese premier Mao Tse Tung himself issued a "death contract" on the entire 1st Marine Division, which he stated had the "highest combat effectiveness" of any unit in the U.S. armed forces. "It seems not enough for our four divisions to surround and annihilate [the 1st Marine Division's] two regiments," Mao said to the commander of the Chinese 9th Army Group. "You should have one or two more divisions as a reserve force."

As late as 1991, when coalition forces were positioned to launch a massive overland attack on Iraq from Saudi Arabia, more than 100,000 Iraqi soldiers were hunkered down behind coastal defenses along the Iraqi-Kuwaiti shoreline anticipating a landing by U.S. Marines, whom they had dubbed "Angels of Death." And these are but a few of countless examples of enemy forces taking seriously the fact that a U.S. Marine is the "toughest," the "highest quality," the finest combatant the American taxpayer can throw into the fight.

"The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." — U.S. Army Gen. John J. "Black Jack" Pershing

In May 2004, Divine reported from Baghdad, "The Special Operations soldiers are not alone in their successes here in Iraq. The U.S. Marine Corps has, once again, proven itself to be the best fighting force in the history of mankind. The warrior ethic of Marines are paralleled only by Special Operations Forces, and they manage to embed that spirit into 175,000 troops."

keep in mind, these are not the opinions of mr. Smith Jr. You cannot refute any of these facts. And remember, Devil Dogs (or "Teufel Hunden"/"Hounds from Hell; Given to Marines from the german forces during WWII at The Battle of Belleau Wood in 1918.) Angels of Death. We werent dubbed these names from the boy scouts, mind you. which other branches have a track record as we do? yes, we fight for the same team, and yes it is difficult to stack branches agains each other seeing as how certain forces have different roles. but id say Marines come out on top pound for pound.

quotes by
— W. Thomas Smith Jr., a former U.S. Marine infantry leader, parachutist, and shipboard counterterrorism instructor, writes about military/defense issues and has covered conflict in the Balkans and on the West Bank. He is an award-winning author of four books, the co-author of two, and his articles have appeared in USA Today, George, U.S. News & World Report, BusinessWeek, National Review Online, CBS News, The Washington Times, and many others.

[Suhoi]

marines are kinda overrated imo, they always get the ****tiest gear and get the bad end of the stick, and they are always portrayed as younger soldiers .

[C1SCO]

Anyone who picks one over the other obviously knows nothing about the career. They were all created for different purposes.

[JaWBreaKeR7o7]

[QUOTE=Suhoi;545818503]marines are kinda overrated imo, they always get the ****tiest gear and get the bad end of the stick, and they are always portrayed as younger soldiers .


exactly how can one be considered "over-rated" if they have the crappiest gear and the ****e end of the stick but all the while still have the highest combat effectiveness of all the branches. given, seals are more secret and america doesnt exactly know the extent of their history or record. as i said, different roles. its hard to stack em all up against each other.

and im tired of people saying stop comparing them. we're all on the same team. well when one asks the question of whos best, let others give their opinion. although civilians or those without any real knowledge or experience doesnt really have an opinion at all

[alexryan21]

gotta go with the Navy SEALs. I was actually strongly considering going into the navy and becomeing a SEAL...SEALs have the longest, hardest training in the world.

BRO your an idiot. you obviously dont know anything about the military. You just think that the SEALS have the longest hardest training because thats all you know. in fact, other special operations organizations such as AirForce Combat Control, AirForce Parerescue, and army SF have the same length in training. SEALS is about 2 years unitl they can deploy same as the other 3. I personally am a combat controller in the airforce, and this pipeline has a 86% washout rate, and Parerescue alone has a 98% washout rate, and Parerescue was also rated hardest job in the military. So your little SEAL theory is very mistaken BUD?....sorry. SEALS are not the best.

[ZachSmash]

Anyone who picks one over the other obviously knows nothing about the career. They were all created for different purposes.

the air force pararescue was created to rescue the other special forces when **** hit the fan.


the convo goes like this:

seals or recon or rangers: "oh ****, were stuck and gonna die wont someone help us?"

pararescue: "on our way n00bs"

[Sherloc]

I'd say that PR, just cause one of my buddies just got back from ranger school (yes he was on the discovery show about it). He's a 2nd Lt. and is gettin ready to be deployed. He says he has hats off to the Para-rescue.

[theACEofSPADES]

Holy shiit this thread is retarded. Who would win if it were Infantry only? The fuk? I guess OP didn't know what Recon meant when he made this thread.

[C1SCO]

the air force pararescue was created to rescue the other special forces when **** hit the fan.


the convo goes like this:

seals or recon or rangers: "oh ****, were stuck and gonna die wont someone help us?"

pararescue: "on our way n00bs"

"That others may Live"

yeah im aware

[Iron_Prophet]

gotta go with the Navy SEALs. I was actually strongly considering going into the navy and becomeing a SEAL...SEALs have the longest, hardest training in the world.

Wanna base that up with facts? No? Because it's not one. Anyone can spout bull**** like that.

[Cell-Tech Daddy]

lulz i played some COD4 and played as SAS they are the best SF unit in the world lulz lulz

[JaWBreaKeR7o7]

if the marine corps had their own PR im sure it would be no less difficult or bad ass. just like corpsmen; we dont have em, so the navy supplies them. after that, they almost become one. and in some cases, they do. (unofficially of course, at heart not paper) PR rescue spec ops because we dont have our own PR. So take some PR and tell them to travel 200 clicks into enemy territory for a couple a week or so and gather intel. not gonna happen.

[USAFpride]

This is no contest. PJ's have to be in the top one percent when it comes to knowledge, they have countless things that need to be done just to get into the 9 weeks of qualifing ( which %100 percent living hell ). After passing that they still need over two more years of training to become full pj's. They will become expert parachutists, sucba divers, EMT's, and marksman. Classes that begin the nine weeks have 100 to 150 Airmen in them. Often times only numbers like 4 or 6 remain. PJ's are Airborne Rangers, Navy divers, and medics rolled into one.

[Trav173]

rangers all the way lol at pararescue winning the poll.

[Eastico]

pararescue.....know how to fight, survive, and save lives in any condition....so basically the pj's respawn and pwn everybody else..

the title says it all paraRESCUE.... they are meant to RESCUE not fight. Navy seals are the most highly trained and most capable fighter on the face of the
Earth. dont put bs up on the site. half of u guys dont know shyt about the seals. u just play blackops. think b4 u talk. research b4 putting up that crap. ..... idiots...

[Guyver1]

You guys are all ****ing retarded, and have no experience to be commenting on any such units.

[ImpulsePainter]

THIS THREAD IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.



l FEEL BAD FOR EVEN POSTING IN IT.

[Strengthftw]

Holy fuk the dumb assness of the this thread couldn't be any worse...

Also lol... The rangers are dubbed ELITE infantry for a fukking reason

Not to say SEALs are incompetent on the ground at all, but when you train mostly in the water, you should get the point...

Also it comes down to individual operators

[Eastico]

the title says it all paraRESCUE.... they are meant to RESCUE not fight. Navy seals are the most highly trained and most capable fighter on the face of the
Earth. dont put bs up on the site. half of u guys dont know shyt about the seals. u just play blackops. think b4 u talk. research b4 putting up that crap. ..... idiots...

plus the navy seals cost the most. they get payed the most. anyone wanna know why there are higher priced items and such? quality don't come cheap. it costs 1 mil just to train ONE Seal! do you guys really know what you're talking about... i think not. plus one dude said that pararescue were airborne rangers!?! bs. navy seals were MADE for all terrain. That is SE for Sea. A for Air. L for land. SEALs remember that. my god. for chrissakes man... marines get paid 16,000 a year. thats crap money

[litoris]

the title says it all paraRESCUE.... they are meant to RESCUE not fight. Navy seals are the most highly trained and most capable fighter on the face of the
Earth. dont put bs up on the site. half of u guys dont know shyt about the seals. u just play blackops. think b4 u talk. research b4 putting up that crap. ..... idiots...

plus the navy seals cost the most. they get payed the most. anyone wanna know why there are higher priced items and such? quality don't come cheap. it costs 1 mil just to train ONE Seal! do you guys really know what you're talking about... i think not. plus one dude said that pararescue were airborne rangers!?! bs. navy seals were MADE for all terrain. That is SE for Sea. A for Air. L for land. SEALs remember that. my god. for chrissakes man... marines get paid 16,000 a year. thats crap money

Age: 15

Shut the hell up already.

[southernstunna1]

Pararescue is obviously incredibly difficult to get through in terms of training and whatnot, but they don't even actually fight, do they? Isn't the purpose of pararescue to go into hot zones and get the dead/wounded? Are they even issued guns? (srs questions)

[southernstunna1]

plus the navy seals cost the most. they get payed the most. anyone wanna know why there are higher priced items and such? quality don't come cheap. it costs 1 mil just to train ONE Seal! do you guys really know what you're talking about... i think not. plus one dude said that pararescue were airborne rangers!?! bs. navy seals were MADE for all terrain. That is SE for Sea. A for Air. L for land. SEALs remember that. my god. for chrissakes man... marines get paid 16,000 a year. thats crap money

haha I think u r trolling but I can't be positive. All the branches get paid the same big dog. Look up the military paycharts.

[Strengthftw]

Pararescue is obviously incredibly difficult to get through in terms of training and whatnot, but they don't even actually fight, do they? Isn't the purpose of pararescue to go into hot zones and get the dead/wounded? Are they even issued guns? (srs questions)

I'll ask you a very common sense question

In these hot zones if there were hostiles, would a gun be a good idea, yes or no

[ImpulsePainter]

haha I think u r trolling but I can't be positive. All the branches get paid the same big dog. Look up the military paycharts.

While you're right on that part, there's bonuses, etc. that add to it.

Also, I'm tempted to go on a neggin spree itt.

[southernstunna1]

I'll ask you a very common sense question

In these hot zones if there were hostiles, would a gun be a good idea, yes or no

depends.