Malaysian Airlines flight is missing (BREAKING)

[GooBaaa]

my guess would be an abandoned or private airstrip

what abandoned/private airstrip can safely land and have a 777 take off?

[shaboy211]

Random question.....goes back to Air France 447 and potentially this flight.....but if your going to crash right into the ocean, is death right away? The Air France flight always trips me out because it was in the middle of the night and they were dropping like a brick.....did the passengers even know they were going down? How quick was death for them?

[bmx045]

the military found it and shot it down

they didn't fly over restricted air space in that pic tho.

[QkFx]

I think US Air Marshals only fly on flights to and from the US? Anyone know for sure? Also do any other countries have similar agencies armed on flights?

[GooBaaa]

they didn't fly over restricted air space in that pic tho.

it was hijacked and shot down pretty standard protocol post 9/11

[bmx045]

Random question.....goes back to Air France 447 and potentially this flight.....but if your going to crash right into the ocean, is death right away? The Air France flight always trips me out because it was in the middle of the night and they were dropping like a brick.....did the passengers even know they were going down? How quick was death for them?

"The flight data recordings stopped at 02:14:28 UTC, or 3 hours 45 minutes after takeoff. At that point, the aircraft's ground speed was 107 knots, and it was descending at 10,912 feet per minute. Its pitch was 16.2 degrees (nose up), with a roll angle of 5.3 degrees left. During its descent, the aircraft had turned more than 180 degrees to the right to a compass heading of 270 degrees. The aircraft remained stalled during its entire 3 minute 30 second descent from 38,000 feet[30] before it hit the ocean surface at a speed of 151 knots (280 km/h), comprising vertical and horizontal components of both 107 knots. The aircraft broke up on impact; everyone on board died, presumably instantaneously."



280km/h straight into the ground. probably instant death from traumatic injury from deceleration.

[chlaxman]

now i'm curious why the military didn't scramble jets to intercept a jumbo jet that appeared on their radar without a previous notice.

Does the Malaysian military have the capability to scramble jets?

[Trequartista]

what abandoned/private airstrip can safely land and have a 777 take off?

im not sure, but it wouldnt need to have to take off, they could just hide it somehow

[mattadams87]

People are delusional about a gun going off in a plane and the plane being torn to pieces/everyone sucked out. It would cause a loss in cabin pressure, but commercial flights are filled to 2/3 atmosphere when at cruising altitude therefore the pressure difference isn't enough to rip the plane apart from a 9mm - .50" hole This has been tested several times on ground simulations with similar pressure ratios. The pilots most definitely could and should carry weapons. If they wanted to go crazy and kill everyone they could easily do it without a gun.

[Carbonfibre]

http://www.kval.com/news/national/Ma...249463281.html

So it changed course, and flew hundreds of miles from where civilian radar last saw it? Flying low, and not detectable by civilian radar... Seems to rule the simple midair explosion idea out. Was it hijacked, or did one of the pilots do it, or is this all a cover story the military made up because they accidentally blew it up?

That theory is dumb as phuck.

If it went along that route after uturn they would have passed over countless airports and radar to be spotted.

The more time it passes the more it seems military made mistake and blew it up now they are trying to cover it up.

[BIG_Griff]

Let's get real guys. This was hijacking practice by some extremist group. The fact that it turned its transponder off, cut off all radio contsct and flew back over Malaysia for over an hour shows the plane was fine

[Trequartista]

Gotta read this extraordinary theory guise.

the only thing about the ****lia theory would be the time it takes to get there

i would assume once it went past the scheduled arrival time, some of the passengers would start to question things

so i would think it would have gone somewhere within the time frame it took to reach Beijing at the most

[GooBaaa]

Does the Malaysian military have the capability to scramble jets?

pretty sure the US has multiple bases around the south china sea

[eyebrowbrah]

IMO

the airplane malfunctioned so the pilot tried going back to Malaysia
it got lost and went off course in the middle of nowhere
some military ppl (dont know what nationality) saw it and shot it down by accident

[MastaBeta]

Does the Malaysian military have the capability to scramble jets?

i thought most countries with a capable airforce would scramble jets to defend its airspace. i don't think the malaysia airforce would've just watched a jumbo jet stray off its course. now with the information we got, it seems they just sat there doing nothing. that just pisses me off, ontop of the useless airport security.

[jackleballs]

IMO

the airplane malfunctioned so the pilot tried going back to Malaysia
it got lost and went off course in the middle of nowhere
some military ppl (dont know what nationality) saw it and shot it down by accident

So why would they turn off the transponder, and fly at 9000 feet in the opposite direction? That's a deliberate move.

[BIG_Griff]

So why would they turn off the transponder, and fly at 9000 feet in the opposite direction? That's a deliberate move.

And not use the radio, and shut the data recorder off

[chlaxman]

pretty sure the US has multiple bases around the south china sea

I highly doubt the US or Malaysians would shoot down a hijacked plane unless there was credible evidence it was going to kamikaze.

[bmx045]

found a pic of the 777 overhead console.... ATC switch is able to be disabled

[PointBreak85]

I know some american pilots are allowed to. Probably not other countries

that is some srs bull****. I would make it mandatory for every cockpit to have guns period.

[chlaxman]

i thought most countries with a capable airforce would scramble jets to defend its airspace. i don't think the malaysia airforce would've just watched a jumbo jet stray off its course. now with the information we got, it seems they just sat there doing nothing. that just pisses me off, ontop of the useless airport security.

My question wasn't meant to sound sarcastic. I don't know what type of air force the Malaysians have, but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't have many ready to fly planes. They also may not have considered a commercial jet a risk. Or there's a bunch of bureaucracy. Or they're incompetent.

[L69]

The more time it passes the more it seems military made mistake and blew it up now they are trying to cover it up.

this

someone made a major fuk up. and now they need to agree on what theyll tell to the public

[BIG_Griff]

found a pic of the 777 overhead console.... ATC switch is able to be disabled

The head of the NTSB just said that theres a circuit breaker in the cockpit that you can use to shut off the transponder, data recorder, voice recorder and all communication from the planes systems to the ground and that it's easy to access

[PointBreak85]

Terrorists taken it, landed it in a desert, Will fuel it and fill it with explosives, will then fly plane into new york

then blames on Iran...oh we have another war

[chlaxman]

So why would they turn off the transponder, and fly at 9000 feet in the opposite direction? That's a deliberate move.

There could have been a mechanical/electrical problem and they had to drop altitude and depressurize the cabin. Could have had a fire and needed to open the cabin.

There's several things it could be.

[Paulo]

Random question.....goes back to Air France 447 and potentially this flight.....but if your going to crash right into the ocean, is death right away? The Air France flight always trips me out because it was in the middle of the night and they were dropping like a brick.....did the passengers even know they were going down? How quick was death for them?

I'm a member over at airliners.net and this topic has been conversed about extensively.

The consensus is the passengers had no idea what was going on. They would have felt some turbulence and the initial vertical acceleration which would have probably masked itself as turbulence. Thankfully for the passengers, they were dead without knowing anything was going on.

[GooBaaa]

I highly doubt the US or Malaysians would shoot down a hijacked plane unless there was credible evidence it was going to kamikaze.

post 9/11 protocol nobody has time to negotiate with a jumbo jet filled with fuel

[jackleballs]

There could have been a mechanical/electrical problem and they had to drop altitude and depressurize the cabin. Could have had a fire and needed to open the cabin.

There's several things it could be.

Sure, but if it was an emergency they could have put the plane down in Vietnam instead of flying all the way back over Malaysia and then not going back to KL?

It doesn't make sense.

[PointBreak85]

The head of the NTSB just said that theres a circuit breaker in the cockpit that you can use to shut off the transponder, data recorder, voice recorder and all communication from the planes systems to the ground and that it's easy to access

so my theory of smart terrorists hijacking the plane is possible.

[Phobaphobia]

The head of the NTSB just said that theres a circuit breaker in the cockpit that you can use to shut off the transponder, data recorder, voice recorder and all communication from the planes systems to the ground and that it's easy to access

Watch this, it shows how easy it is