You're getting a lot more bang for your buck with the HP Omen specs. You can always add an m.2 in the future if you choose. And to fix termal issues, just watch some detailed YouTube videos on how to apply liquid metal and re paste the entire thing. It's not hard and can be done in an hour.
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06-12-2019, 03:18 PM #181
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06-13-2019, 12:25 PM #182
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06-13-2019, 01:25 PM #183
Waiting to see what hardware is available is your best bet. I think the 3000 series will be AMD's flagship but games like these aren't so CPU dependent anyway. At this rate the new '2080ti super' or whatever it'll be called will likely be the single card champ at release time, but I doubt it'll be enough to push 60 fps + at 4k with RT...though this isn't an argument in favor of the consoles either because they certainly won't be able to either.
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06-13-2019, 01:46 PM #184
No next gen card will hit 4k60 on the *at the time of release* latest games.
rtx 2180 ti won't
rtx 2280 ti will
rt is such a graphical setback lol people don't appreciate it enough. and it will be even more demanding as developers use more of it. IIRC battlefield for example doesn't use it everywereMS, Computer Science
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06-13-2019, 02:10 PM #185
Ok you ****s made me purchase a new laptop today lmao. It was a little more expensive than the ones I posted before. Let me know what y’all think:
Intel Core i7-8750H Processor 2.2GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB GDDR5X
16GB DDR4-2666 RAM
500GB Solid State Drive
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
6-in-1 Card Reader
10/100/1000 Network
2x2 Intel Wireless-AC 9560
Bluetooth 5.0
15.6" Full HD 144Hz Display with G-Sync Support
Total price around $1300
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06-13-2019, 02:28 PM #186
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06-13-2019, 02:28 PM #187
That was my point. The only people who don't appreciate the horsepower required for RT are (today) Nvidia's marketing team. You were talking about building a new PC and I'm not optimistic that the hardware available at the release of this game will be ready, even if it is your best bet to wait, for a high fidelity experience of this game at 4k. I suppose 1440p should be fairly easily doable at reasonable FPS on PC.
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06-13-2019, 02:29 PM #188
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06-13-2019, 02:31 PM #189
2080Ti should definitely run it at max at 1440 resolution and definitely at least 50-60+ fps. It will run pretty much anything out now at 4K 60+ (and many games much much higher than 60 frames), so I don't think it will be an issue to do CP2077 60+ at 1440. Maybe I need my vision chcekd, but I can't notice any differnce from 1440 to 4K resolution. 1080 to 1440 is a definite difference. But I don't see the difference from 1440 to 4K. I'll be over the moon to play it in 1440 resolution on max settings with that HBB ray tracing.
Also CDPR announced yesterday they are working very closely with the Nvidia RTX team to make sure the ray tracing is as solid as possible (and I'm sure as optimized as possible) upon release.
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06-13-2019, 02:47 PM #190
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06-13-2019, 03:19 PM #191
I notice the difference in my use: 27 inch monitor sitting within a few feet distance to the screen, but I could bet in some use cases that the jump isn't that noticeable. I have been on 1440p since 2010 or so on my PC, and still notice the 4K improvement.
On the video card: I would hope so about the 2080Ti, and with the announcement of the 2080Ti Super (replacement of the 2080Ti with a new chip, apparently) I'm wondering if that will be the final flagship card by April next year. Why do I wonder? Because of the new HDMI standard I want for 4k120Hz. I entered the thread when bartosh was talking about building a new PC and I'm still planning mine - but am waiting for the new ports to push graphics as far as I can at high frames.
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06-13-2019, 03:25 PM #192
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06-13-2019, 03:39 PM #193
7k on a fkn pc build? that's lunacy, but hey , if it makes you happy
i stopped building at crysis , flat gave up
https://www.ps5playstation5.com/specs/
it'll do
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06-13-2019, 03:41 PM #194
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06-13-2019, 04:16 PM #196
No. 2080Ti will do 1440 resolution at 50-60+fps with ray tracing easy.
You're going to be waiting a long time for a $500 card that will run this game at 60+FPS with ray tracing at 1440 resolution. Like...at least 18-24 months from now.
The new Nvidia Super cards will probably drop the price of current RTX line a little. But probably only a little. 5-10% reduction probably, if that.
I can always throw another 2080Ti in later on when the price comes down more for 4K.Last edited by R3L3NTL3SS; 06-13-2019 at 04:22 PM.
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06-13-2019, 04:42 PM #197
yeah def
cliffs:
tomb raider only uses ray tracing on for illumination/light sources
battlefield only uses ray tracing for reflections
metro uses global illumination for all light sources
gonna be a long time until cards support global illumination rtx at 4k60+
The 2080ti will not run cyberpunk 1440p 50-60fps with ray tracing if they use global illumination
https://www.techspot.com/article/179...ing-benchmark/
Metro exodus.
the 2080ti is hitting 45min-72max fps on 1080p with rtx set to ultra
1080p
1440p? 35-51
4k? 21-29
cyberpunk will be more graphically intensive.Last edited by bartosh; 06-13-2019 at 05:16 PM.
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06-13-2019, 05:41 PM #198
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06-13-2019, 06:55 PM #201
I dunno...
Doing more research on the subject - I think it is entirely feasible that a 2080Ti will run it on max settings with rt at 1440 with at least 50+fps.
Primarily because ray tracing is brand new essentially and I don't get the idea that any of the current games supporting it are nearly as optimized as as they can be for it based on various things I'm reading and seeing on YouTube on the subject. Meanwhile CP2077 is still almost a year out - and they're working side by side with the RTX team to ensure the games ray tracing is as smooth as possible. It will probably be the most optimized ray tracing game yet when its launched.Last edited by R3L3NTL3SS; 06-13-2019 at 07:13 PM.
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06-13-2019, 08:51 PM #203
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06-14-2019, 04:58 AM #204
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06-14-2019, 11:43 PM #210
HDR on a console > any graphical advantage of pc
I really wish Microsoft would get HDR working on pc so I could have the best of both worlds
HDR is as big of a leap in gaming as going from VHS to Blu-ray or eating at McDonald's vs a 3 Michelin star restaurant
It's night and day. You will be amazed how washed out games look when you turn off HDRLast edited by Lord_Lemon; 06-14-2019 at 11:49 PM.
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