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    LOL at op claiming natty, please go *******. Brb 6'4 2 year lifter blows up shoulders in 4 months by changing a routine.

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    Originally Posted by TooShredded View Post
    LOL at op claiming natty, please go *******. Brb 6'4 2 year lifter blows up shoulders in 4 months by changing a routine.

    You aint fooling anyone
    3* years lifting, and my delts have come up considerably in the last 4 months. Not my entire physique. You're a noob.
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    Fuaark. Strong back delt armor/10
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    look at thattttt, and respect itt

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    Originally Posted by TheStifmeister View Post
    front pics? just interested
    Will get one up soon brah!

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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Seated DB press, elbows as far back as possible, grip pretty wide. All the way up and down (as long as it's comfortable) 3x 10-12
    Face pulls 3x10
    Reverse pec dec 3x10
    DB lat raise for side delts 4x15
    Cable lat raise (1 arm at a time) 3x10-12

    easy, just use weight you can contract your delts with and leave your ego at the door
    Elbows as far BACK as possible??? I thought you were meant to 'tuck' your elbows slightly forward to take stress of your shoulders and avoid injury.

    Could be wrong though. A lot probably comes down to weight you can handle, but anything past parallel just looks like a shoulder op waiting to happen.

    So far I know 3 guys who pull their elbows right back on shoulder press all 3 have serious shoulder issues. Could just be coincidence.

    Just my 2c. There's a heap of things that can work. It's obviously works for you, looking super juicy bro!

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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    3* years lifting, and my delts have come up considerably in the last 4 months. Not my entire physique. You're a noob.
    Lol. Bah no matter how long you've been lifting exactly, you're not natty. That picture that was posted on page two is WAY too much of adifference from your beginning picture in the OP to be achievable in 7 months natty. I'm not denying your hard work, no matter if you're natty or not your physique is very impressive kudos on getting this far, but don't be a bitch and CLAIM natty
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    Originally Posted by TooShredded View Post
    Lol. Bah no matter how long you've been lifting exactly, you're not natty. That picture that was posted on page two is WAY too much of adifference from your beginning picture in the OP to be achievable in 7 months natty. I'm not denying your hard work, no matter if you're natty or not your physique is very impressive kudos on getting this far, but don't be a bitch and CLAIM natty
    The before and after in that pic are 3 years apart, not 7 months. The 7 month picture was posted later by someone else (the one of me doing a most muscular).

    Not here to try and change what you think, that's up to you, just giving you the facts. 3 years of consistent training and dieting can do wonders, and 230 is not exactly unheard of at 6'4. Good day, sir.
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    Originally Posted by squeak419 View Post
    Elbows as far BACK as possible??? I thought you were meant to 'tuck' your elbows slightly forward to take stress of your shoulders and avoid injury.

    Could be wrong though. A lot probably comes down to weight you can handle, but anything past parallel just looks like a shoulder op waiting to happen.

    So far I know 3 guys who pull their elbows right back on shoulder press all 3 have serious shoulder issues. Could just be coincidence.

    Just my 2c. There's a heap of things that can work. It's obviously works for you, looking super juicy bro!

    I found my delts blew up when I hit them with high intensity and volume.
    It's never caused me any stress to be honest, feels quite nice. I feel it a lot on my elbows if I tuck them a little forward like you said. A lot of people do behind the neck presses to force their elbows back, but I don't recommend that sh!t, seems too dangerous with a bar over your neck.
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Seated DB press, elbows as far back as possible, grip pretty wide. All the way up and down (as long as it's comfortable) 3x 10-12
    Face pulls 3x10
    Reverse pec dec 3x10
    DB lat raise for side delts 4x15
    Cable lat raise (1 arm at a time) 3x10-12

    easy, just use weight you can contract your delts with and leave your ego at the door
    Why in the world did you do that many reps for each set? I thought muscle grows with a 6-8 rep range and starts wasting after 10-12 reps...?
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    Originally Posted by Maxjabbour View Post
    Why in the world did you do that many reps for each set? I thought muscle grows with a 6-8 rep range and starts wasting after 10-12 reps...?
    My shoulders respond extremely well to high volume, rather than heavy lifting, from what I have found. Try things for yourself rather than following the norm bro, we're all wired differently :-)

    Off to murder back, I've had a few guys PM me with queries which is cool as I'm always happy to help. Feel free to post them in here too as it's easier to answer a question once so everyone can see the response. Cheers!
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    It's never caused me any stress to be honest, feels quite nice. I feel it a lot on my elbows if I tuck them a little forward like you said. A lot of people do behind the neck presses to force their elbows back, but I don't recommend that sh!t, seems too dangerous with a bar over your neck.
    Seems fair! Probably comes down to the individuals biomechanics, I know that if I don't tuck elbows on bench press and military press I feel a lot of strain on my shoulders and I have never had elbow trouble.

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    you not from auck brah? think i would of noticed you around being 6'4 230lbs and I've been doing the same hitting my delts hard last few months
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    Originally Posted by Maxjabbour View Post
    Why in the world did you do that many reps for each set? I thought muscle grows with a 6-8 rep range and starts wasting after 10-12 reps...?
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    [b]The before and after in that pic are 3 years apart, not 7 months. The 7 month picture was posted later by someone else (the one of me doing a most muscular).[\b]

    Not here to try and change what you think, that's up to you, just giving you the facts. 3 years of consistent training and dieting can do wonders, and 230 is not exactly unheard of at 6'4. Good day, sir.
    That's exactly what i'm saying. That transformation is nowhere close to possible natty in that timeframe. Not only that, but you claim you went from lacking shoulders to what they are in the OP which would be very surprising with your current build. Not not mention you have very prominent traps and delts which are both obvious signs of teching...anyways not gonna argue with you anymore but stop being a pussy and try to covince people that just KNOW you teched
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    you expect me to believe you made a huge change in muscle in 4 months? nice roids buddy.
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    holy mother of front delts
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    Damn, lots of private messages! Replying now
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    too bad shoulders respond the best to cell tech so this thread really doesn't mean much.

    good transformation tho.
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    Originally Posted by shaf_nz View Post
    Seated DB press, elbows as far back as possible, grip pretty wide. All the way up and down (as long as it's comfortable) 3x 10-12
    Face pulls 3x10
    Reverse pec dec 3x10
    DB lat raise for side delts 4x15
    Cable lat raise (1 arm at a time) 3x10-12

    easy, just use weight you can contract your delts with and leave your ego at the door
    now i really kno ur a troll..

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    tips for performing face pulls correctly?

    I can never seem to get that burn in the rear delts that everyone talks about..

    how high do you place the cable, do you use the rope, any other advice appreciated as well.
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    regardless of natty or not (haven't checked ur bodyspace), ur transformation is still awesome, bro, gjdm.
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