Nut Misc "Do You Even Lift?" Thread Part II

[PerpetualMotion]

Pressing is a fickle thing. Have lost quite a bit during this little cut, but it's because I'm going too fast lol. oh well. I'm looking to hit 405 @ 180lbs by spring. buhleeve dat!

I don't think anyone has ever strict overhead pressed 2.25x BW ever.

[Ondemand]

I don't think anyone has ever strict overhead pressed 2.25x BW ever.

It's hard enough to bench that lol

[Vitek92]

I don't think anyone has ever strict overhead pressed 2.25x BW ever.

I dont know what his BW was but it should be close.


This makes me wanna overhead press.

[ErickStevens]

Pretty sure Serge weighed ~250lbs.

[Vitek92]

Pretty sure Serge weighed ~250lbs.

Ah so "just" 2x BW then.

[JasonDB]

Pretty sure Serge weighed ~250lbs.

Ah so "just" 2x BW then.

So pretty much a weak ******* then.

[Andrew_S]

It still wasn't a "strict" press. Amazing (duh), but not a strict OH press.

[Vitek92]

So pretty much a weak ******* then.

And fat. Don't forget fat.

[hcoyle545]

thats unreal. it's especially unfathomable to me given that I haven't been OHPing so have the OHP of someone going into their 4th week of Starting strength

also cheers for chiming in on the shrugs, i've been doing them straight up straight down but some guy who I always see shrugging in my gym said to roll it back. think I pinched something doing it too, kunt

[greekmanman]

There's no danger but it really makes no sense. You don't train the upper traps optimally or even really well by doing this and you partially hit the rhomboids but what's the point of that? As DaBubzy mom's says, straight up and straight down. Any rolling looks goofy and does nothing.

don't the traps serve to both elevate and retract the scapula? Wouldn't the shrug movement be up and back, kind of at an angle ?

[ExDubio11]

don't the traps serve to both elevate and retract the scapula? Wouldn't the shrug movement be up and back, kind of at an angle ?

nah, retraction of the scapula would also need to occur in a linear fashion. note the diamond shape of the trapezius. the middle region of fibers (from superior to inferior) would retract the scapulae towards the midline. shrugging up and back would be an inefficient way of achieving such an effective due to a severely limited ROM

[ko300zx]

Only the nutmisc could turn shrugs into a 3 hour anatomy lesson.

[PerpetualMotion]

don't the traps serve to both elevate and retract the scapula? Wouldn't the shrug movement be up and back, kind of at an angle ?

What ExDubio11 said in regards to ROM. The technical term is passive insufficiency (yay exrx for teaching me this). All that really means is that specific actions prevent good lengthening from a muscle. When you shrug, you don't do it to attack the mid and lower fibres but the upper ones. They're primarily responsible for elevating the scapula, so if you want to hit them well then you should really only "elevate" your shoulders. That's why a cue a lot of BBers use is to try and touch your traps to your ears.

If you want the mid and lower traps to be bigger then that's where you want to retract and/or depress. So, the easiest way to overload them would be to rack pull with scapular retraction.

[Andrew_S]

For you New Balance fanbois (like myself), the Minimus 10's are on sale for $39.99 ($105 originally) at Joe's New Balance Outlet. Only in the color below, but a solid deal if you want some new shoes. Probably not good for lifting since they are more a running shoe. Just thought I'd share with the shoe talk going on lately.

Just bumping to say these are pretty nice shoes. It feels strange walking around in them at first since the heel is so flat (was kinda falling backwards) and I have to focus on keeping my weight on the outside of my feel (flat feet), but it's good. I did some light front squats in them and they seemed fine. I'll have to wait and see how durable they are, since they are thin and light. They look better in person IMO.

[ko300zx]

Just bumping to say these are pretty nice shoes. It feels strange walking around in them at first since the heel is so flat (was kinda falling backwards) and I have to focus on keeping my weight on the outside of my feel (flat feet), but it's good. I did some light front squats in them and they seemed fine. I'll have to wait and see how durable they are, since they are thin and light. They look better in person IMO.

Nice. If you're just wearing them to the gym they should hold up for quite some time. My MX20s are like new still. If you're going to do a lot of running in them, they might wear quickly. Should have grabbed a pair but I have to save money for xmas gifts. Rather get the GF something nice than stack another pair of shoes in the closet.

[Andrew_S]

Nice. If you're just wearing them to the gym they should hold up for quite some time. My MX20s are like new still. If you're going to do a lot of running in them, they might wear quickly. Should have grabbed a pair but I have to save money for xmas gifts. Rather get the GF something nice than stack another pair of shoes in the closet.

I haven't done any jogging since switching to lifting 6 out of 8 days, 12 weeks in a cut, so they should hold up nicely until sometime early next year!

[PerpetualMotion]

I haven't done any jogging since switching to lifting 6 out of 8 days, 12 weeks in a cut, so they should hold up nicely until sometime early next year!

[King222]

hey guys i just got done with my lower day today and I was having a pretty annoying pain right below my right hip whenever I would reach full squat during squats/leg press (so when the rom was essentially maximized) my hip pain would flair up, I generally go pretty deep on leg pressing and I feel that is somehow related to this :/ also obviously parallel on squats, any ideas my brohans ?

[snrygo]

hey guys i just got done with my lower day today and I was having a pretty annoying pain right below my right hip whenever I would reach full squat during squats/leg press (so when the rom was essentially maximized) my hip pain would flair up, I generally go pretty deep on leg pressing and I feel that is somehow related to this :/ also obviously parallel on squats, any ideas my brohans ?

here-isH?

[greekmanman]

nah, retraction of the scapula would also need to occur in a linear fashion. note the diamond shape of the trapezius. the middle region of fibers (from superior to inferior) would retract the scapulae towards the midline. shrugging up and back would be an inefficient way of achieving such an effective due to a severely limited ROM

What ExDubio11 said in regards to ROM. The technical term is passive insufficiency (yay exrx for teaching me this). All that really means is that specific actions prevent good lengthening from a muscle. When you shrug, you don't do it to attack the mid and lower fibres but the upper ones. They're primarily responsible for elevating the scapula, so if you want to hit them well then you should really only "elevate" your shoulders. That's why a cue a lot of BBers use is to try and touch your traps to your ears.

If you want the mid and lower traps to be bigger then that's where you want to retract and/or depress. So, the easiest way to overload them would be to rack pull with scapular retraction.

makes sense

[King222]

here-isH?

uhhhh i can't really tell from that pic but it's the front of my hip area, could be considered the very top of my thigh i suppose

[snrygo]

uhhhh i can't really tell from that pic but it's the front of my hip area, could be considered the very top of my thigh i suppose

I wanna say anterior femoral glide. Moar glute work. Finish your squats properly.

[King222]

I wanna say anterior femoral glide. Moar glute work. Finish your squats properly.

roger that.. i actually have 0 glute work atm on lyle's gbr. and yeah it's literally between my side and d*ck pretty much.

[TomBremner]

I wanna say anterior femoral glide. Moar glute work. Finish your squats properly.

i feel like you would get good grades in anatomy...

[ErickStevens]

222 -> 218 -> 213 in 3 days. Strong bloat.

[brendbro]

222 -> 218 -> 213 in 3 days. Strong bloat.

5lb poop, thats big!

[snrygo]

i feel like you would get good grades in anatomy...

my knowledge on the subject (not to sound cocky) is the reason i didnt take exersize science this year. i feared i would be bored crapless.

not to mention the course is pretty elementary by most of our standards since it caters to grade 12 studens who know what the arm bone is lol

[RugbyTank]

my knowledge on the subject (not to sound cocky) is the reason i didnt take exersize science this year. i feared i would be bored crapless.

not to mention the course is pretty elementary by most of our standards since it caters to grade 12 studens who know what the arm bone is lol

Ya those are great classes to take during summer
i found out ex. science[not the course name I can't remember off hand]
was extremely easy if you have chemistry background and somewhat knowledgable of anatomy.

[Lvisaa2]

222 -> 218 -> 213 in 3 days. Strong bloat.

Goodnight sweet water weight. You're planning to compete at 220 for the next meet, right? If so, looks like you are in a real good spot to grow into the meet and bust some strong lifts.

[vitornoob]

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