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    Originally Posted by LuigiMiami631 View Post
    Fuk $30 an hour. Better than NYpat and Sicilliebrazille is making.

    Imagine an illegal, fast food worker making their wage while NYpat and Sicillie both have degrees with over 10 years experience. Absolutely brutal considering they voted for crap like this.
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    Oh yeah, because moving your whole life somewhere else is so quick and easy for everyone lol. It's definitely not in my long term plan though, I'm just here right now because it's where my family is.
    its a great financial decision, unless you live in your parent's basement who cares? You can always visit them, time to cut the umbilical cord and grow up
    unless you make minimum wage, the value of living in Cali sucks, chits overpriced and overtaxed...
    Its easier to move than try to change a liberal state's values. but you'd rather btch and complain on the internet instead of actually doing something to fix your situation
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    Originally Posted by jonmcd46 View Post
    its a great financial decision, unless you live in your parent's basement who cares? You can always visit them, time to cut the umbilical cord and grow up
    unless you make minimum wage, the value of living in Cali sucks, chits overpriced and overtaxed...
    Its easier to move than try to change a liberal state's values. but you'd rather btch and complain on the internet instead of actually doing something to fix your situation
    I've been waiting for the real estate market to get better before I make any big moves. Right now is not a good time to be making a big property purchase.
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    ever notice whenever a lib is in charge libs always say "both sides" but when it's a republican it's only the republicans fault.
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    Didn't read thread because everyone will have a retarded take.

    They deserve $30/hour. COL and inflation have pushed a living wage that high. If you think a min wage that high is ridiculous, then the issue lies with the system that created this necessity. Corporate greed pushes everything higher and higher. The system is broke. Whether your (R) or (D) has no bearing at this point. We are fighting a corporatocracy. The next idiot to call this capitalism is no better than idiots who claim real communism has never been tried.

    A high min wage is a natural effect of the economic path this country has been on since it formed the fed....you really are just fukking the little guy if you oppose it.
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    I'm just saying.... If rent and house prices would come down, $20 per hour would be plenty.

    Rent/house payment is one weeks take home pay to budget yourself correctly. Too many people are having to pay 40% to 70% of their take home just for rent.
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    Then the burger combo will cost $50
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    Originally Posted by BigTimeOperator View Post
    I'm just saying.... If rent and house prices would come down, $20 per hour would be plenty.

    Rent/house payment is one weeks take home pay to budget yourself correctly. Too many people are having to pay 40% to 70% of their take home just for rent.
    A big part of rent going up is all the legislation democrats push that make things harder and more costly for people to rent out property.
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    Then the burger combo will cost $50
    Nope.

    Firms set their price at the profit maximising point

    This is a trade off between maximising price per item and volume of sales.

    The cost base, including wages, does not factor into the profit max calculation

    Firms will raise their prices to the profit maximising point regardless of their cost

    TLDR: You’re retarted
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    Nope.

    Firms set their price at the profit maximising point

    This is a trade off between maximising price per item and volume of sales.

    The cost base, including wages, does not factor into the profit max calculation

    Firms will raise their prices to the profit maximising point regardless of their cost

    TLDR: You’re retarted
    Imagine thinking costs don't factor into pricing at all.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Imagine thinking costs don't factor into pricing at all.
    They factor into the shutdown point for the firm and the profit. The market price and cost base would also determine the decision of firms to enter the market. Nobody will enter a market if they don’t think they can make a profit.

    The pricing - the price the firm charges for its output - is set at the profit maximising level.

    The proof of this is trivial - prices have soared well before wages increased.

    Try reading a book.
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    While I don’t think anyone “deserves” anything, a lot of miscers really are simps for corporations. Don’t realize they’ve actually been brainwashed to do the bidding of large corporations.

    It’s perfectly valid for workers to unionize for leverage and negotiate better terms. That’s also just part of the free market. But I know people will get triggered by the word “union”.
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    pricing is set by "opportunity" not operating costs.
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    Originally Posted by jonmcd46 View Post
    its a great financial decision, unless you live in your parent's basement who cares? You can always visit them, time to cut the umbilical cord and grow up
    unless you make minimum wage, the value of living in Cali sucks, chits overpriced and overtaxed...
    Its easier to move than try to change a liberal state's values. but you'd rather btch and complain on the internet instead of actually doing something to fix your situation
    It's nowhere near that simple for some people. There's job, family (parents and others), friends, and if you are involved in the community. When parents get old you have to take care of them. Moving away from other family/friends sucks and then you have no one to talk to in person in new state. Depending on the line of work moving could hurt that too. Obviously if someone is part of a national company or something he can just transfer or get another position in a different state with low hassle. But if you own a business or are part of a small business that is predicated on awareness in an area then you're basically starting from the bottom again moving to a new area.
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    While I don’t think anyone “deserves” anything, a lot of miscers really are simps for corporations. Don’t realize they’ve actually been brainwashed to do the bidding of large corporations.

    It’s perfectly valid for workers to unionize for leverage and negotiate better terms. That’s also just part of the free market. But I know people will get triggered by the word “union”.
    Strange. We have no problem with the owners of capital (shareholders) negotiating collectively through the board of directors

    But suddenly it’s a problem when the owners of labour (workers) negotiate collectively as a union

    Reeks of hypocritical bootlickery
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    Originally Posted by LuigiMiami631 View Post
    Fuk $30 an hour. Better than NYpat and Sicilliebrazille is making.

    Imagine an illegal, fast food worker making their wage while NYpat and Sicillie both have degrees with over 10 years experience. Absolutely brutal considering they voted for crap like this.
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    They factor into the shutdown point for the firm and the profit. The market price and cost base would also determine the decision of firms to enter the market. Nobody will enter a market if they don’t think they can make a profit.

    The pricing - the price the firm charges for its output - is set at the profit maximising level.

    The proof of this is trivial - prices have soared well before wages increased.

    Try reading a book.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    So what you're telling me is how you know nothing about finances or running a business.
    I’ll post up my annual after tax profits with a spoon pic if you post up yours

    Needs to be plausible verification though

    I can show cash in the bank from a profit distribution
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    While I don’t think anyone “deserves” anything, a lot of miscers really are simps for corporations. Don’t realize they’ve actually been brainwashed to do the bidding of large corporations.

    It’s perfectly valid for workers to unionize for leverage and negotiate better terms. That’s also just part of the free market. But I know people will get triggered by the word “union”.
    Probably because they know what libs don't want people to know about unions.
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    I’ll post up my annual after tax profits with a spoon pic if you post up yours

    Needs to be plausible verification though

    I can show cash in the bank from a profit distribution
    What does that have to do with running a business? Do you own a franchised restaurant?
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    ever notice whenever a lib is in charge libs always say "both sides" but when it's a republican it's only the republicans fault.
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    What does that have to do with running a business? Do you own a franchised restaurant?
    Ah I see

    You’re a pussy who backflips when you get called out

    Could have just said that to begin with
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    Ah I see

    You’re a pussy who backflips when you get called out

    Could have just said that to begin with
    Back out of what? The topic has always been knowledge of the food industry and running a business, not you trying to flex your personal finances to strangers on the internet.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Back out of what? The topic has always been knowledge of the food industry and running a business, not you trying to flex your personal finances to strangers on the internet.
    Dis u retard?

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    So what you're telling me is how you know nothing about finances or running a business.
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    Dis u retard?
    Point being? Name calling is not a substitute for valid knowledge.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Point being? Name calling is not a substitute for valid knowledge.
    And you have no knowledge of finance, economics nor the labour market, either theoretical or applied.


    Hence, having engaged in “name calling” yourself, (specifically, see below) you are now backtracking rapidly.

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    So what you're telling me is how you know nothing about finances or running a business.
    You are yet to offer a single counter argument to what is a well-established field of economics.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Probably because they know what libs don't want people to know about unions.
    Not an argument. If 20 factory workers agreed to strike to negotiate a higher wage, is there anything wrong with that? Or is it only wrong if they call it a union and it gets big enough?

    You need to exercise nuance. Unions are ripe for corruption at large enough scales, just like everything else, but that doesn't render the action of worker negotiation a bad thing.
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