NMisc - Post Your Lifting Vids (bragging, form check, w-e)

[Andrew_S]

Anyone feel like explaining what head position they use squatting and why?

I have always followed Mark Rippetoe for squat and his rec is to keep head in a neutral position, but I notice elitefts and other seem to have folks looking up.

My opinion is that you see the guys at elitefts saying that because it is more powerlifting and gear (so heavy loads) based, and in turn with so much weight and a low bar position it can cause forward lean at times. Driving your head back when leaning too far...shoulders follow, you straighten out and finish the lift. If a person isn't prone to excessive leaning, and/or the lifter is aware of it, then I don't see the point of it.

The focal point of the squat on the concentric is pretty different with both groups, too. Mark would have you drive up with your ass, while the elitefts guys seem to be strong supporters of GMs, extensions, and moves driving the upper back...err, back.

[Andrew_S]

I use a packed neck position which has been popularized by Charlie Weingroff. Rippetoe does note that having a neck up loses hip drive and I tend to agree. It's also not good for the spine as you're extending your cervical spine. You wouldn't do that with your thoracic or lumbar, so I feel that the logic also applies for the cervical spine. If you want to read more then check this out (I've done all this before so I apologize to other NutMiscers): http://charlieweingroff.com/2010/11/...g-in-the-neck/

Here's Tony Gentilcore with a packed neck (notice how he forces a double chin? That's a packed neck essentially):


In this article (http://robertsontrainingsystems.com/...-neutral-neck/), Mike Robertson shows how Ed Coan and Brad Gillingham squatting with a neutral neck and he talks about a neutral neck.

If you read the first article by Charlie I linked then he talks about why people look up.

Cliff:
- I use a reinforced neutral neck position
- This is because the neck also links to other places in the spine

Bret Contreras is starting to preach neck packing also.

[sawoobley]

I tried doing lowbar with a guy who had gone to a few ss seminars and for some reason my hands turned dead-white and the positioning was VERY painful. Very bizarre. So, I high bar but still keep head neutral.

That's interesting. Well, high bar works for a lot of people. I've noticed that low bar is most comfortable for me when I put the bar below my scapula spine and acromion process otherwise it sits on those protruding bones. I have a lot more muscle at that point in my back and deltoids so it helps with comfort. It is a bit tough reaching back with my arms that far so I take a wider grip on the bar.

[spicyprice]

Interesting vids guys! My physio has me do the "neck packing" when I do a few of my exercises. Will try and incorporate it into my lifts.

I have never paid attention to where my eyes were looking and never thought it would make a difference except if it made my head turn. I have lots to practice this week!

[peanut-butter]

This is the only vid I have of myself.

It's only 340lb, but 3 weeks prior to this my squat was under <310, so I was quite happy with that progress. I'm hoping for 4 plate squat by the end of this year

[joelash302]

Anyone feel like explaining what head position they use squatting and why?

I have always followed Mark Rippetoe for squat and his rec is to keep head in a neutral position, but I notice elitefts and other seem to have folks looking up.

I keep my head straight forward and look up. It's a mental cue more than the actual position. My upper back is the weak link in the chain right now, so doing this helps me keep it tight. Otherwise I collapse my chest and end up doing a good morning. With sub max weights, I do a neutral position.

[NegatronPrime]

I keep my head straight forward and look up. It's a mental cue more than the actual position. My upper back is the weak link in the chain right now, so doing this helps me keep it tight. Otherwise I collapse my chest and end up doing a good morning. With sub max weights, I do a neutral position.

^ this.

when i lose concentration and stop focusing on keeping tense and core tight, my back slips forward and i have to good morning before i can squat lol

[ErickStevens]

I thought you squatted 565, you fooled me

lol That's my [synthetic]"All Time PR"[/synthetic]. I also weighed 310lbs at the time.

[NegatronPrime]

Proof of my strength is my overhead bagel.

[Andrew_S]

Proof of my strength is my overhead bagel.

Close enough.

[NegatronPrime]

that's a big donut u got der andrew. u sure der no transfats in there?


not even 2g?

i hope not. i gon eat dem for 2 yearz

[Andrew_S]

that's a big donut u got der andrew. u sure der no transfats in there?


not even 2g?

i hope not. i gon eat dem for 2 yearz

It's only got 0.4g per serving, so none at all. I can eat 50 servings and that big fat zero doesn't change on dare.

[LegosInMyEgos]

How is "hydrogenated oils" an ingredient?

[spicyprice]

How is "hydrogenated oils" an ingredient?

Maybe its like how "natural flavors" is an ingredient.

[Andrew_S]

Probably a mixture of several different sources and they have no idea to the exact breakdown of it.

[Ashlei]

Me playing around with my form on front squats. I've only attempted them once before. Switching from back squats because they've been bothering my hip flexor lately.

Sorry for the poor quality and the distance...had to prop my phone up in a cubby far away.





Please feel free to critique or offer assistance (if you can see)

[phal]

Me playing around with my form on front squats. I've only attempted them once before. Switching from back squats because they've been bothering my hip flexor lately.

Sorry for the poor quality and the distance...had to prop my phone up in a cubby far away.

[youtube]iFsI7OGxn4g/youtube]



Please feel free to critique or offer assistance (if you can see)

Is that synthetic working out next to you?

But really, you seem to be leaning forward (I see you're using a clean grip, are your wrists comfortably flexible enough?)

[Ashlei]

Is that synthetic working out next to you?

But really, you seem to be leaning forward (I see you're using a clean grip, are your wrists comfortably flexible enough?)

Leaning forward feels really natural on squats :/ I switched from back squats to doing box squats and thought I'd give front squats a try. I do think I need to work on wrist flexibility. It wasn't uncomfortable but it wasn't exactly comfortable either.

[Andrew_S]

Leaning forward feels really natural on squats :/ I switched from back squats to doing box squats and thought I'd give front squats a try. I do think I need to work on wrist flexibility. It wasn't uncomfortable but it wasn't exactly comfortable either.

You can work into the grip by just wrapping your thumb and two fingers for a while if you want to use the clean grip. A little less stress. There is also the California/cross arm way of securing the bar, as well as using lifting straps around the bar and using those to grab on so you can keep a neutral hand position.

[phal]

Leaning forward feels really natural on squats :/ I switched from back squats to doing box squats and thought I'd give front squats a try. I do think I need to work on wrist flexibility. It wasn't uncomfortable but it wasn't exactly comfortable either.

I was really just curious because once you start to move up in poundage it may be difficult to keep the weight on your shoulders/shelved.

I have a tendency to lean forward when I get tired and (I use cross arm 'grip') the weight gets close to slipping.

[PerpetualMotion]

Leaning forward feels really natural on squats :/

The lean you're using makes sense for a back squat but a front squat has very little.

[Ashlei]

You can work into the grip by just wrapping your thumb and two fingers for a while if you want to use the clean grip. A little less stress. There is also the California/cross arm way of securing the bar, as well as using lifting straps around the bar and using those to grab on so you can keep a neutral hand position.

I tried the cross arms and it bothers my shoulders more so I played around with the clean grip a bit. I'll try the thumb and two fingers next time.

I was really just curious because once you start to move up in poundage it may be difficult to keep the weight on your shoulders/shelved.

I have a tendency to lean forward when I get tired and (I use cross arm 'grip') the weight gets close to slipping.

Even when I do just BW I lean forward :/

The lean you're using makes sense for a back squat but a front squat has very little.

Thanks for the input guys! Will keep working at it

[NegatronPrime]

The bar always slips off my delt on one side on front squats. Probably because I have no delts :P

The guy next to you, he's a douche trolololo

[Ashlei]

The bar always slips off my delt on one side on front squats. Probably because I have no delts :P

The guy next to you, he's a douche trolololo

Me too..no delts. Feelsbadman.

Haha I was waiting for someone to say that I kinda thought so too.

[NegatronPrime]

^Im no expert on cleans, but im pretty sure youre not supposed to hold it with your forearms after youve performed the movement. I couldnt help but watch him walk back and forward ffs

Clavicle bruises ftw!

[Ashlei]

^Im no expert on cleans, but im pretty sure youre not supposed to hold it with your forearms after youve performed the movement. I couldnt help but watch him walk back and forward ffs

Clavicle bruises ftw!

Yeah I have no clue what they were doing...idk why they didn't just front squat the weight instead of pressing it behind their head.

[phal]

Like I said earlier, someone's trying to get more proof of reta err strength vids.

[NegatronPrime]

Yeah I have no clue what they were doing...idk why they didn't just front squat the weight instead of pressing it behind their head.

Strongman complexes or something.

Might take my camera tomorrow

[Phrak]

http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/714/2b9.mp4/

Probably a fail embed, heres me pulling 655lb at my last meet.

[ErickStevens]

Ashlei's gym... So many power racks. >_<

http://imageshack.us/clip/my-videos/714/2b9.mp4/

Probably a fail embed, heres me pulling 655lb at my last meet.

Fuk yeah.