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    Hey OP, can you provide me a link where to buy that BPA-free bottle? All I do is drink water out of my damn plastic gallon.
    I bought mine at Eastern Mountain Sports, although they have it for sale on REI

    http://www.rei.com/product/776896/ca...ottle-32-fl-oz
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    i eat a sh!!!!!!!!T load of brocholai and other assorted greens
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    i dont even... lol ... 250mg test e e5d, nolva pct rinse/repeat. prob solved.
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    i dont even... lol ... 250mg test e e5d, nolva pct rinse/repeat. prob solved.
    good diet, confidence and exercise. win?
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    i dont even... lol ... 250mg test e e5d, nolva pct rinse/repeat. prob solved.
    While I respect everyone's opinions and values not everyone might want to go that route (just yet, or ever) and instead try to do the best they can naturally.
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    DIM is also an anti-androgen. I have not seen any men report normal anti-androgen symptoms with it like Propecia victims, but still just be aware.

    Obviously environmental toxins/chemicals/xeno-estorgens as well as a **** diet and major unatural stressors are a huge player in lower testosterone levels along with many other things.

    But do not discount the fact that today more than ever humans do not need high testosterone to survive. We not longer need to fight for ourselves/families, we no longer need to be strong and durable for our (manual) jobs, we no longer need to look like an alpha male in order to score a chick, etc. Basically it is not as big of a factor in "natural selection" anymore.

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    Originally Posted by sproles134 View Post
    Hey OP, can you provide me a link where to buy that BPA-free bottle? All I do is drink water out of my damn plastic gallon.
    The free water bottle I| got from bb.com has a BPA free sticker.
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    Originally Posted by kratosbrah View Post
    The government's trying to turn us into women brahs
    this.

    how can we brave and fight back if we have no testosterone? and we will be emotionally driven..

    the only people they want to have test is the military but they are brainwashed
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    Originally Posted by mustang View Post
    DIM is also an anti-androgen. I have not seen any men report normal anti-androgen symptoms with it like Propecia victims, but still just be aware.

    Obviously environmental toxins/chemicals/xeno-estorgens as well as a **** diet and major unatural stressors are a huge player in lower testosterone levels along with many other things.

    But do not discount the fact that today more than ever humans do not need high testosterone to survive. We not longer need to fight for ourselves/families, we no longer need to be strong and durable for our (manual) jobs, we no longer need to look like an alpha male in order to score a chick, etc. Basically it is not as big of a factor in "natural selection" anymore.
    aware me on DIM products please...srs.
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    Originally Posted by mustang View Post
    DIM is also an anti-androgen. I have not seen any men report normal anti-androgen symptoms with it like Propecia victims, but still just be aware.

    Obviously environmental toxins/chemicals/xeno-estorgens as well as a **** diet and major unatural stressors are a huge player in lower testosterone levels along with many other things.

    But do not discount the fact that today more than ever humans do not need high testosterone to survive. We not longer need to fight for ourselves/families, we no longer need to be strong and durable for our (manual) jobs, we no longer need to look like an alpha male in order to score a chick, etc. Basically it is not as big of a factor in "natural selection" anymore.

    But the thing is, Boys&Men are actually being HURT by this. Mental defects, physical defects, this has been documented in animals too, as they exposed the animals to the chemicals that we surround ourselves with, the male animals started dying off or becoming feminized. High testosterone levels don't just make you a big tough brute, they make you a MALE.

    Our testosterone levels are dropping because of the chemicals that we unknowingly poison ourselves with, not because we don't need it anymore.
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    Originally Posted by jr gong View Post
    While I respect everyone's opinions and values not everyone might want to go that route (just yet, or ever) and instead try to do the best they can naturally.
    much respect. good rebuttal.
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    Originally Posted by kratosbrah View Post
    But the thing is, Boys&Men are actually being HURT by this. Mental defects, physical defects, this has been documented in animals too, as they exposed the animals to the chemicals that we surround ourselves with, the male animals started dying off or becoming feminized. High testosterone levels don't just make you a big tough brute, they make you a MALE.

    Our testosterone levels are dropping because of the chemicals that we unknowingly poison ourselves with, not because we don't need it anymore.
    I agree with kratos, although I understand your point mustang. We don't need to run after elephants anymore but as men we should still have the ability to do so, hormonally. If you check out the documentaries I posted in the OP you'd see that boys are being born with descended testicles, penis disorders, etc. that was virtually unheard of in the past.
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    Originally Posted by sproles134 View Post
    Hey OP, can you provide me a link where to buy that BPA-free bottle? All I do is drink water out of my damn plastic gallon.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nalgene-Ever...#ht_2417wt_905

    best water bottle imo. BPA free, hard and durable construction, large opening for easy cleaning. Also keeps water tasting great.
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    Should be sticky.. Will start taking DIM tomorrow..
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    Originally Posted by jr gong View Post
    As far as diet goes, please please please, please, do not go low fat. Testosterone is heavily dependent on fat and cholesterol for production. Stock up on olive oil, coconut oil, butter (real butter), they're all good choices. Eat eggs with the yolk. Buy grass feed beef whenever possible.

    You've switched out your old containers, you're eating a good amount of fat in your diet and taking DIM to help keep your estrogen in check, great. What else can you do?
    wouldn't low fat also affect the natural estrogen production? they're both lipids (steroids actually)
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    i drink water out of an ozarka water coolr, do the big 5gallon bottles they ship them in have BPA or do I need to do something else???
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    this is scary as fuk, good future for africa though since they don't deal with these chemicals and will be the only males left(not srs) (maybe srs)
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    Check this out guys: 3 packs of 100 tablets, each pills contains Zinc, Magnesium, Calcium, and Vitamin D, all exactly what the OP says to take.

    http://www.amazon.com/Nature-Made-Ca...4574511&sr=8-2
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    good thread OP
    also work out in the morning when your testosterone levels are highest (9am)

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    Originally Posted by Squatzincurlrak View Post
    Check this out guys: 3 packs of 100 tablets, each pills contains Zinc, Magnesium, Calcium, and Vitamin D, all exactly what the OP says to take.

    http://www.amazon.com/Nature-Made-Ca...4574511&sr=8-2
    '

    Centrium 50 and over tabelts have all that and a bunch of other viatamin and are chewables(fuarking hate pills) started taking those recently after other Test threads

    http://www.centrum.com/OurProducts/Silver.aspx

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    SO all I would really need to do is add more cruciferous veggies to my diet, eat more carbs than protein, keep fats up and drink from BPA free water bottles

    lift heavy, take my multi, and I should be good to go?
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    Centrium 50 and over tabelts have all that and a bunch of other viatamin and are chewables(fuarking hate pills) started taking those recently after other Test threads

    http://www.centrum.com/OurProducts/Silver.aspx

    it has nician too great for growth hormone and other shttt
    This is 300 pills for 9 bucks, hard to beat for the guys on a hard budget!
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    So dim is just in greens and ****?
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    That would explain why all the fat kids are mostly feminine. Lack of competitiveness, lack of drive, lack of motivation, just all around pansies. All they eat is processed food that is covered with BPA plastics.

    Mind=blown.
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    Originally Posted by reyes12 View Post
    SO all I would really need to do is add more cruciferous veggies to my diet, eat more carbs than protein, keep fats up and drink from BPA free water bottles

    lift heavy, take my multi, and I should be good to go?
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    So dim is just in greens and ****?
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