a young Dorian

[icetrauma]

Well just like in the lee priest thread I think there is some miscommunication around here when it comes to roids, hgh, slin, and other substances. I know for me personally I am not trying to take anything away from the pros. All I've ever said is that you have to have great genetics AND be a great responder to gear to make it to ifbb pro level.

I don't see why some people get so bent out of shape over that. We all know guys who take roids yet still look like ****. My point has always been that you don't even get to "play the game" competition wise without the needle.

You sir are correct.