Pre-workout Heartattack at only 24 years old, my gym buddy is down for the count

[DotheDew563]

been taking pre-workout since i was 17. only preworkout that gave me chest aches was n.o. shotgun

[GoatNapper]

This, one of the most infuriating things about living in Europe, it seems like every supplement is illegal, at least in Europe, theres a Phucking black market for Sups, seriously some creatines in Germany are as taboo as things we can't say.

Ya, most american pre-workouts are banned here, i ship them in through APO/DPO since they are personal use, but even a lot of proteins from the states are banned. finland requires all products to be regulated. assuming so does germany

[Lionology]

damn, and I just ordered Scream.

[GoatNapper]

WHat was he taking? i've done up too 5 scoops of pre-works before they removed 123 dem or whatever it's called again

he was taking 2 scoops RagNoRak 6 days a week, but he also consumed the big cans of redbull. he passed all his medical screening for the military so i assume it was something fairly new.

[y0lked]

just stick to plain caffiene boys. stims are overrated

[Nyst2]

let us be reality, millions of people take preworkouts. of 1,000,000 people on a given day, if 1% of them are at a 1% risk of heart attack due to a stimulant, it is expected 100 people will have a heart attack that day. your friend is one of the 100. about one million people have heart attacks in the US every year, half of which are not because of a particular reason.

WHo live a longer life, bodybuilders, or marathon runners?

[Harry815]

Damn OP, did you find out if he took more than the recommended dose?

[Kurial]

Do you guys get random pain sometimes near your heart after taking pwo?

I sometimes get some during squats where I rev myself up (might be breathing technique)

I only take 200mg caffeine pills like 30 mins before workout

[Lionology]

just stick to plain caffiene boys. stims are overrated

caffeine is a stimulant

[Nicklol]

stupid gimmick

[rflores90]

**** that sucks. I take 1 scoop of c4 5x a week.

[CrazySlasher]

this is why i only drink coffee before i workout.

[JustSaiyanBro]

just stick to plain caffiene boys. stims are overrated

Caffeine is a stimulant.

It is also the primary ingredient of the vast majority of pre-workouts.

Are you a potato?

[TheIronAsylum]

3 scoops not even once

[AshWar]

Is a pre workout even necessary? Never taken one, neither have I met anyone IRL who takes it

[sawang]

Did the doctors specifically point out that he had heart damage or are we all just speculating that because someone had a heart attack after taking preworkout,this is definitely because of preworkout abuse and we should all stop taking these?

What did the doctors say about the cause of his heart attack?

Inb4...
20+% bf dreamerbulk nocardio time
cholesterol levels through the roof
cardiovascular disease
genetics/heart defect
rec drugs & prescription meds (********, viagra etc)

all of those things are much more likely suspects than preworkout

but it's much easier to ban preworkout so average american fatcutns can be confident their gym supps aren't going to increase their risk of heart attack even though their chitty sedentary lifestyle, overprescription of medication, and high calorie diet puts them 100x more at risk.

lifting itself is a high risk activity, it's very easy to hurt yourself by working out. not everything in life is safe and risk free whether that's stepping into a gym or walking down the street.

best wishes for your frd though (srs)

[hardestgainer]

Damn, but yeah taking pre WO and energy drinks are not the best idea, that said Im guessing there's a good chance his heart already wasnt 100%. Ive known guys that abused the fcuk out of Pre WO and are still fine.



Ive personally really cut back though, now for pre workout I just take creatine and 200mg of caffeine

[Jay89LDN]

Your friend is an idiot, just like the clown who took jack3d and collapsed in the london marathon

[Dan916]

this happened to me with Jack3d, but no heart attack. Had to go to E.R. had some serious ****ing heart issues after 3 weeks of use. Settled out of court.

PWOs are all fun and games for most people, but so is *******. Wouldn't recommend PWOs to anyone.

[GoatNapper]

Did the doctors specifically point out that he had heart damage or are we all just speculating that because someone had a heart attack after taking preworkout,this is definitely because of preworkout abuse and we should all stop taking these?

What did the doctors say about the cause of his heart attack?

Inb4...
20+% bf dreamerbulk nocardio time
cholesterol levels through the roof
cardiovascular disease
genetics/heart defect
rec drugs & prescription meds (********, viagra etc)

all of those things are much more likely suspects than preworkout

but it's much easier to ban preworkout so average american fatcutns can be confident their gym supps aren't going to increase their risk of heart attack even though their chitty sedentary lifestyle, overprescription of medication, and high calorie diet puts them 100x more at risk.

lifting itself is a high risk activity, it's very easy to hurt yourself by working out. not everything in life is safe and risk free whether that's stepping into a gym or walking down the street.

welp he was around 18% BF, he abused the shiat out of preworkouts, i am fairly sure he slammed a redbull or two with each PWO, maybe even mixed PWO in redbull. no drug use aside from prescription pain killers after we hit the IED. he ate fairly healthy, had test at age 18 and then again at 22 which came back clean. the doctors said his cholesterol level and what not were within specs, and said his heart was litterally overworked. he now has a 20-30lb lifting restriction after his release. but is advised to steer clear of any and all types of lifting.

[Harry815]

Fuk, I take EC stack in the morning, Jack3d before the gym, and EC stack again later in the evening (all 4 hours apart). Thoughts?

[GravityLee]

Do you guys get random pain sometimes near your heart after taking pwo?

I sometimes get some during squats where I rev myself up (might be breathing technique)

I only take 200mg caffeine pills like 30 mins before workout

i've gotten something like this and can never tell if its in my head or real

[Dan916]

Fuk, I take EC stack in the morning, Jack3d before the gym, and pre-workout again later in the evening (all 4 hours apart). Thoughts?

dats not it mane.

[GoatNapper]

Your friend is an idiot, just like the clown who took jack3d and collapsed in the london marathon

i wouldnt call him an idiot, me and him have had our fair share of issues since returning home from active duty. i think it was more of a saving grace for him. something that made him feel better about himself. he got pretty messed up with burns and what not. i went through a similar phase. i hope the best for him though since he is still facing his demons....

[Ausbody]

Stay safe OP.

Would cardio help condition for such situations?

[GravityLee]

I'm sorry your friend had a heart attack. Its fun to make jokes on here but when stuff happens to real people it sucks. In for more answers on if cardio could help prevent this sort of thing.

[TooAnabolic]

i was taking 5 scoops of neurocore for a while

a little bit of heart pain and palpitations

don't use preworkouts anymore tho except for caffeine and currently ephedrine cuz i'm cutting

[GoatNapper]

I'm sorry your friend had a heart attack. Its fun to make jokes on here but when stuff happens to real people it sucks. In for more answers on if cardio could help prevent this sort of thing.

from what i gathered from the doctor cardio and what not may help a little, but he explained a lot of it has to do with how you your body processes and and how you will react to it. that some people react strongly to minimal stims, and others react none to high stims. i do remember if i took to many stims my nose would bleed and i would get a migraine.

and poking fun is enjoyable as long as people know its all for laughs, i think some people here take it a little to far, and even i am guilty of that as well.

[SUR14]

My heart used to beat fukking fast at times, but I have this breathing technique to slow it back down. My heart rate runs fast as it is. I've been doing cardio the last month and I have already dropped my resting bpm from 90 to around 82. Gonna lower it more.

[GoatNapper]

My heart used to beat fukking fast at times, but I have this breathing technique to slow it back down. My heart rate runs fast as it is. I've been doing cardio the last month and I have already dropped my resting bpm from 90 to around 82. Gonna lower it more.

a few weeks ago when i was using my PWO 5 days in a row i had sharp chest pains for a couple days after. since then ive decided they are no bueno for me