***2024 Official NFL Chat Thread***

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[bezarker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HckLlsM89Ug


It might be a repost but everyone likes seeing this woman beater get KO'd

[1hardgainer]

Trevor Lawrence and the Jags agree to a 5-year $275 million deal w/ $200 million guaranteed


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...year-275m-deal


Yikes


IMO no player should have a salary bigger than Mahomes'. Pro sports teams are so retarded lol

[BigDeeps01]

Trevor Lawrence and the Jags agree to a 5-year $275 million deal w/ $200 million guaranteed


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...year-275m-deal


Yikes


IMO no player should have a salary bigger than Mahomes'. Pro sports teams are so retarded lol

Horrible contract, the guy regressed last year with better weapons than he’s had before

[WoofieNugget]

When they are giving a guy like Lawrence 55 million a year then all that means is people like Mahomes deserve at least 80. Can't imagine how they are going to build a team around him when 80% of their money is being given to one player.

As a point of reference, Tom Brady made 25 million in 2021.

These contracts are getting dumb now, and I don't know how the league can sustain them.

[ohiostate124]

I think I read that as of right now, there are 9 qbs who make more than Mahomes or something. The Lawrence contract is obviously terrible but they have to pay it. It’s the nature of the game. If they don’t and he walked, someone else would pay it because most of the league is just that desperate.

[thedarrenestes]

Horrible contract, the guy regressed last year with better weapons than he’s had before

I can’t wait to be fresh off a 3-peat seeing what Purdy fetches

[BigDeeps01]

I can’t wait to be fresh off a 3-peat seeing what Purdy fetches

Keep yourself safe

[Elvis.Costello]

I miss football . Though the off season is definitely the only good time to be a Washington fan.

[thedarrenestes]

Keep yourself safe

It’s a blessing to even have a QB worth crippling your franchise over boyo

Don’t be salty - Smile because it happened

[bezarker]

[BigDeeps01]

It’s a blessing to even have a QB worth crippling your franchise over boyo

Don’t be salty - Smile because it happened

Fingers crossed that Mahomes suffers a career ending injury this year

[thedarrenestes]

Fingers crossed that Mahomes suffers a career ending injury this year

I miss the days when you still had that magical glimmer of hope and simply clowned yourself with loudly wrong (albeit genuine) takes

Buck status: Sadly broken

[bezarker]

[BigDeeps01]

I miss the days when you still had that magical glimmer of hope and simply clowned yourself with loudly wrong (albeit genuine) takes

Buck status: Sadly broken

Gay post

[Vhagar]

I think I read that as of right now, there are 9 qbs who make more than Mahomes or something. The Lawrence contract is obviously terrible but they have to pay it. It’s the nature of the game. If they don’t and he walked, someone else would pay it because most of the league is just that desperate.

There are not 9 QBs making more than Mahomes. His new money extension put him at like 53 million per year for the next 4 seasons and they will probably make similar deals every few years

[komputerguy]

Fingers crossed that Mahomes suffers a career ending injury this year

won't wish that on anyone but that f**ker ruined football with the blatant rigging by the NFL. I dont know any football fans outside KC that can enjoy watching KC games with the refs rigging it.

Fantasy Football is probably the only reason keeping the NFL relevant.

[thedarrenestes]

Gay post

Fair

There are not 9 QBs making more than Mahomes. His new money extension put him at like 53 million per year for the next 4 seasons and they will probably make similar deals every few years

Cap hit is the only number that matters - This is the real magic in Mahomes' deal

I dont know any football fans outside KC that can enjoy watching KC games

Good

[BigDeeps01]

won't wish that on anyone but that f**ker ruined football with the blatant rigging by the NFL. I dont know any football fans outside KC that can enjoy watching KC games with the refs rigging it.

Fantasy Football is probably the only reason keeping the NFL relevant.

Yeah fantasy is pretty much the only reason I'm watching football this year

[HARDWILLIAM]

Trevor Lawrence and the Jags agree to a 5-year $275 million deal w/ $200 million guaranteed


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...year-275m-deal


Yikes


IMO no player should have a salary bigger than Mahomes'. Pro sports teams are so retarded lol

The way they hand out contracts is retarded. The newest deal shouldn't automatically be the new highest paid player. Sometimes it will be deserved but in this case it is not. Guys like Lawrence should not be making more than Mahomes.

[BigElephant]

Here’s what you need to know about the lawsuit against the NFL by ‘Sunday Ticket’ subscribers

BY JOE REEDY
Updated 2:41 PM EDT, June 17, 2024
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — The way the NFL can distribute its package of out-of-market games could be decided in federal court as the result of a class-action lawsuit.

Subscribers to the NFL’s “Sunday Ticket” package are claiming the league broke antitrust laws by selling its package of out-of-market Sunday afternoon games airing on CBS and Fox at what the lawsuit says was an inflated price. The subscribers also claim the league restricted competition by offering “Sunday Ticket” only on a satellite provider.

The NFL maintains it has the right to sell “Sunday Ticket” under its antitrust exemption for broadcasting. The plaintiffs say that only covers over-the-air broadcasts and not pay TV.

The case got underway on June 6 in Los Angeles.

How did this case get to trial?
The lawsuit was originally filed in 2015 by the Mucky Duck sports bar in San Francisco. On June 30, 2017, U.S. District Court Judge Beverly Reid O’Connell dismissed the lawsuit and ruled for the NFL because she said “Sunday Ticket” did not reduce output of NFL games and that even though DirecTV might have charged inflated prices, that did not “on its own, constitute harm to competition” because it had to negotiate with the NFL to carry the package. Two years later, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which has jurisdiction over California and eight other states, reinstated the case. On Feb. 7, 2023, U.S. District Judge Philip Gutierrez ruled the case could proceed as a class action. Gutierrez on Jan. 12 rejected a final attempt by the NFL to dismiss the case.

Who are the plaintiffs?
The class action applies to more than 2.4 million residential subscribers and 48,000 businesses, mostly bars and restaurants, that purchased “NFL Sunday Ticket” from June 17, 2011, to Feb. 7, 2023. Google’s YouTube TV became the “Sunday Ticket” provider last season.

What are the chances of the NFL winning?
The NFL might be the king of American sports and one of the most powerful leagues in the world but it often loses in court, especially in Los Angeles. It was in an LA federal court in 1982 that a jury ruled the league violated antitrust rules by not allowing Al Davis to move the Raiders from Oakland to Los Angeles.

This is one of the rare times when a high-profile case where league financial matters would become public has gone to court without the NFL first settling. In 2021, the league settled with St. Louis, St. Louis County and the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority for $790 million over the relocation of the Rams to Los Angeles.

Why is the NFL facing long odds?
According to memos presented by attorneys for the plaintiffs, Fox and CBS have always wanted the league to charge premium prices for “Sunday Ticket” so that it doesn’t eat into local ratings — the more subscribers to “Sunday Ticket,” the greater the threat to local audience numbers.

During opening statements, attorney Amanda Bonn showed a 2020 term sheet by Fox Sports demanding the NFL ensure “Sunday Ticket” would be priced above $293.96 per season.

When the “Sunday Ticket” contract was up for bid in 2022, ESPN wanted to offer the package on its streaming service for $70 per season along with offering a team-by-team product, according to an email shown by Bonn. That was rejected by the NFL.

How much could this cost the NFL?
If the NFL is found liable, a jury could award $7 billion in damages, but that number could balloon to $21 billion because antitrust cases can triple damages.

But when would the league have to show the subscribers the money?
Not for awhile, since the NFL would appeal to the 9th Circuit and possibly the Supreme Court after that.

What other ways could “Sunday Ticket” subscribers find lower prices?
The NFL could offer a team-by-team package, something done by Major League Baseball and the NBA for its out-of-market packages, and actively market a weekly package if fans didn’t like games being shown in their area.

Could this impact other sports?
Since all the major leagues offer out-of-market packages, they are keeping an eye on this case since individual teams selling their out-of-market streaming rights, especially in baseball, would further separate the haves from the have nots.

https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sunda...5eb1c98b25b4da


tl;dr - NFL might have pressured DirecTV and now Youtube to offer Sunday Ticket at prices higher than they normally would have. NFL wants the product to be at a premium and discourage a lot of people from buying so they can prop up Fox and CBS and encourage viewers to watch local games there.

When the rights for Sunday Ticket were up for bid in 2022 ESPN wanted to offer the package for $70 annually along with an option to just purchase a single team's games. The NFL rejected their offer.


The NFL losing this lawsuit would be a big win for fans. The price might go down, and we might get options for just buying a single team's games or a group of teams' games, like Youtube initially teased when they first announced the winning bid.

[BigBallsMcgee]

The way they hand out contracts is retarded. The newest deal shouldn't automatically be the new highest paid player. Sometimes it will be deserved but in this case it is not. Guys like Lawrence should not be making more than Mahomes.

its all relative to the cap and projected cap growth. Signing today for more than Mahomes is not necessarily getting more in terms of % of cap when Mahomes signed.


Mahomes also purposely signed a long AF deal

[BigBallsMcgee]

https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sunda...5eb1c98b25b4da


tl;dr - NFL might have pressured DirecTV and now Youtube to offer Sunday Ticket at prices higher than they normally would have. NFL wants the product to be at a premium and discourage a lot of people from buying so they can prop up Fox and CBS and encourage viewers to watch local games there.

When the rights for Sunday Ticket were up for bid in 2022 ESPN wanted to offer the package for $70 annually along with an option to just purchase a single team's games. The NFL rejected their offer.


The NFL losing this lawsuit would be a big win for fans. The price might go down, and we might get options for just buying a single team's games or a group of teams' games, like Youtube initially teased when they first announced the winning bid.

I dont really understand the lawsuit or how they could lose, but yes. Apple was initially going to win the bid but they only wanted it if they could charge a way lower price and NFL said no.

I just dont see why that would be illegal. 

[Vhagar]

Cap hit is the only number that matters - This is the real magic in Mahomes' deal

The cap is such bullchit

Every dollar earned that league year should go towards the cap number. Too much financial wizardry in the league

That isn’t directed at the chefs. Just the league in general.