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    I've been using "Burn" by True Nutrition and it has been working great. Non-thermo, no ephedra. Green tea extract, caffeine, cayenne pepper, yohimbine, b-5. Its worked great for me with no side effects. Pretty cheaply priced as far as fat burners go also.
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    I'm sure both of these have already been mentioned, but for ephedra (and 1,3) free fat burner, my pick is Cellucor's Super HD. That stuff stacked with AppNut's RPM is a killer combo for shredding and overall mood enhancement!
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    I've been using Gaspari Detonate for a couple weeks & I must say, It's ****ING AWESOME!! The amount of energy I get with it & with no crash. Oh & 2 pills in the morning & that's it. Been seeing great results with a strict diet & training regimine.
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    The best

    The best I've tried is the heatround. Theheatround.com It is based on the PAGG stack mentioned in the four hour body. No stimulants whatsoever.
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    Max muscle RED is the way to go bottom line......
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    What about Green Tea Caps? I have an easily jittered heart and have had to compeltely cut out coffee. I can only stand up to 3 16oz mugs of tea a day and I feel like the Green Tea caps would be the only fat burner I'd feel safe taking.

    Anyone have experience with these or are in the same boat as me and have suggetions?
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    I liked Anadrox......main reason it didnt have yohimbe in it. My anxiety goes thru the roof when I take yohimbe. U gotta take 4 pills at a time but they're not big and easy to swallow plus didnt give me that methed out feeling.
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    I also had good results while taking tight extreme by S.A.N........vascularity was awesome.
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    I've never taken a fat burner, but I'm wanting to now that I just had a great bulk. I want to maintain as much muscle as possible while also burning fat and dropping from 200 down to 185. Here are the products I'm considering taking along with a CLA product:

    Animal Cuts with Animal Stak
    REDuction
    MusclePharm Shred Matrix
    Grenade Thermo Detonator
    BSN Hyper Shred

    Any suggestions on which I should take and why?
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    I am just about to order a fat burner and creatine monohydrate. I was just curious if that is a good idea? I know creatine makes you hold water weight. A answer as fast as possible would be nice, want to order the stuff tonight!
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    Originally Posted by Lineman99 View Post
    I am just about to order a fat burner and creatine monohydrate. I was just curious if that is a good idea? I know creatine makes you hold water weight. A answer as fast as possible would be nice, want to order the stuff tonight!
    Taking creatine on a cut is a good thing. Creatine doesn't make you hold water weight, and even if it did, who cares? Are you concerned with your weight on the scale, or your body fat %. You should be concerned with body fat %, in which case water weight is irrelevant.
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    Originally Posted by Justamonsta View Post
    Taking creatine on a cut is a good thing. Creatine doesn't make you hold water weight, and even if it did, who cares? Are you concerned with your weight on the scale, or your body fat %. You should be concerned with body fat %, in which case water weight is irrelevant.
    Right now I am concerned about the weight on the scale. I have put on some pounds on the off season so I need to lose weight then just gain a lot of muscle.
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    Also I cant truly decide on a fat burner. Right now I am leaning toward Lipo 6 black but I also see all of these other great options. Like Animal Cuts and Hydroxycut Elite. I did try a sample of both Hydroxycut and reduction. I didnt feel anything from the hydroxycut or the reduction. I also really hated the flavor of reduction, I almost puked after taking it. If anyone can chime in and give me good honest reviews other than this product rocks it would be helpful!
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    Absolutely loved Gaspari Detonate until I lost my libido completely by the 7th or 8th day. :/ now I'm taking Cellucor Super HD and its going well. Not quite the same as detonate for mood and good feeling, but the fat is coming off quick
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    What's the best for appetite suppression?
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    Originally Posted by coughs View Post
    What's the best for appetite suppression?
    Food.

    OEP was pretty intense the first week as far as hunger suppression went, not a single craving was had. Gets dulled down after that though. I'd recommend a cup of black coffee(I cheat and put a packet of Splenda) or green tea.

    My vote would go to lipodrene, worst jitters though.
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    I've taken:
    Oep
    Animal cuts
    Hydroxcut
    Roxy lean

    Oep- was ok the first time
    A.cuts always good
    Other stuff so so

    I'm trying an eca stack but need a source bc bb.com doesn't sell any more can some pm me?
    Also I see a lot of the ec pills online have like 50-150mg of ephedra in it. Is it not "real" ephedra? Bc I read not to go over 65mg and to build up to that
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    Why doesnt bb.com have a caffeine or pre workout product? Or do they? They have a protein, a cla product and their own l carnitine. So why no caffeine or pre workout? Also does anybody know where I can get real ephedra? They stopped selling Broncade at all the drug stores. Thanks for the help guys,,,
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    Originally Posted by robert890571 View Post
    Why doesnt bb.com have a caffeine or pre workout product? Or do they? They have a protein, a cla product and their own l carnitine. So why no caffeine or pre workout? Also does anybody know where I can get real ephedra? They stopped selling Broncade at all the drug stores. Thanks for the help guys,,,

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    I remember when I first made my order here at BB, I got a free sample of TSN Xat-7. It gave me a very nice energy rush and the appetite suppression was amazing. I then started doing research on fat burners, in conclusion I got Hydroxycut hardcore elite since it had one of the highest ratings and really nice reviews. I shouldn't have went with this since HHE was a big disappointment. I felt little to no energy, felt like I was taking CLA, which I also tried before trying HHE. I am going to order TSN xat-7 since it had what I wanted. Should have went with that from the beginning. I have about ~80 capsules remaining in HHE. Willing to give it away if anyone is interested. Just pm me for details.
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    from what ive tried

    OEP original mix - very strong, killed me appetite and get me plenty of energy
    OEP newer mix - not as strong as the original but still kept my appetite down but the crash became ALOT more noticeable.
    RoxyLean - HORRIBLE. i didn't take the time to research this as i got it for free, but i took it for about a week and every time within 30 minuts of taking it i was throwing up. now after researching it i have found negative reviews everywhere.

    ANS-HIT - These arent as strong as OEP but the energy is very clean. No jitters or headaches just very alert and focused. What i didn't like is that with oep I could take the 2 and sometimes 3 a day and be wired all day. With HIT the dosage is 3 a day butttt i was still losing all energy within 2 hours of taken a dose and was hungry as all hell.

    I'd definitely recommend OEP to almost anyone and probably recommend HIT to people who are beginners and more sensitive to caffeine and what not.
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    Originally Posted by davidcausa View Post
    from what ive tried

    OEP original mix - very strong, killed me appetite and get me plenty of energy
    OEP newer mix - not as strong as the original but still kept my appetite down but the crash became ALOT more noticeable.
    RoxyLean - HORRIBLE. i didn't take the time to research this as i got it for free, but i took it for about a week and every time within 30 minuts of taking it i was throwing up. now after researching it i have found negative reviews everywhere.

    ANS-HIT - These arent as strong as OEP but the energy is very clean. No jitters or headaches just very alert and focused. What i didn't like is that with oep I could take the 2 and sometimes 3 a day and be wired all day. With HIT the dosage is 3 a day butttt i was still losing all energy within 2 hours of taken a dose and was hungry as all hell.

    I'd definitely recommend OEP to almost anyone and probably recommend HIT to people who are beginners and more sensitive to caffeine and what not.
    roxylean making you throw up? Odd, I haven't felt anything from it except the niacin flush, which is fine with me. I'm still hungry as hell so it doesn't do much to suppress appetite. Also don't feel any extra energy from it. But I'm only on my third day of it right now. Hard to say how effective it'll be yet. Definitely going to try out OEP next time.
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    Final Ingredient List:







    Fat Burner with Crave Control

    All Day Energy, Mood Elevation & Focus

    Key Benefits

    • Shown in research to decrease the drop-out rate of individuals on low calorie diet protocols
    • Suppresses appetite so caloric intake can be reduced
    • Reduces diet psychological stress and minimizes mood changes often experienced with dieting
    • Powerful all day energy, mood elevation and focus
    • Further enhance the fat burning process of exercise (via inhibiting alpha2 receptors)
    • Great as a pre-workout energy/focus enhancer

    Theanine

    Stimulates alpha wave activity in the brain and has been shown when combined with caffeine to be highly beneficial in improving alertness during demanding tasks. As an additional benefit, Theanine has been shown in research to accelerate mental regeneration after exercise and reduce the negative side effects of caffeine. The perfect supplement to combat diet and exercise induced neurological burnout that frequently occurs when dieting and training hard

    Green Coffee Extract

    New research has identified a compound called chlorogenic acid which is believed to be responsible for green coffee’s ability to support fat loss and promote healthy blood sugar levels already in healthy range.* During the coffee bean roasting process, much of this beneficial chlorogenic acid is broken down and greatly reduced. LIV uses just the purest non GMO unroasted coffee beans, containing 50% of chlorogenic acid.

    Caffeine

    Dendrobium Extract

    A key component factor of LIV’s formula responsible for:

    • Powerful mental focus
    • Sense of well being
    • Energy boost

    This Chinese extract is standardized for the component Dendrobine - believed to stimulate the release of norepinephrine, epinephrine and dopamine.

    Neuravena

    A developed specialized wild green oat extract, that concentrates specific constituents of the plant that have been shown in research to boost the neurotransmitter dopamine and have a positive impact on stress resistance. The overall benefit is greater alertness, energy and focus, while stabilizing stress levels. By including Neuravena, we further enhance the end users optimal mental state needed to assist them throughout their day as they progress through their chosen diet protocol

    Rauwolfia vomitoria (standardized for alpha-yohimbine)

    We have included the highest standardized extract for alpha-yohimbine currently available.
    Unlike typical yohimbe extracts or yohimbine HCL, which impact both alpha and beta-andrenergic receptors, alpha yohimbine used in LIV is much more specific and works predominantly as an alpha2 receptor antagonist.

    The benefit of alpha-yohimbineʼs specificity as an antagonist to the alpha2 receptors are as follows:

    • Our bodies fat cells (specifically in the subcutaneous fat tissue) have a much higher number of alpha 2 receptors compared to beta receptors.
    • Alpha2 receptors when activated, blunt/decrease the fat burning process.
    • By blocking these alpha2 receptors with alpha-yohimbine, you allow your body to burn fat more effectively. This receptor specificity, allows alpha-yohimbine to have a much stronger fat burning affect than common yohimbe extracts or yohimbine HCL.

    In addition, alpha-yohimbine exhibits far fewer negatives side effects often experienced with typical yohimbe. Some of these negatives, are increased heart rate, blood pressure that is brought about through powerful stimulation of the beta receptors that typical yohimbe extracts or yohimbine HCL stimulate.

    PhosphoLean- N-Oleoyl-PE + EGCG

    • PhosphoLean® N-Oleoyl-PE + EGCG (NOPE + EGCG) is the "next generation" nutritional supplement compound for advanced appetite control and weight management. PhosphoLean® NOPE + EGCG is a safe, natural, and effective nutritional supplement compound that can help individuals manage their ideal body weight.

    • Recent research involving the manipulation of appetite has shown that suppressing appetite and thus reducing the intake of food is an effective means to controlling both energy balance and body weight. Since appetite suppression is a major controlling point for energy (food) intake, managing appetite is crucial in controlling healthy body weight, especially when combined with health conscious lifestyle choices that include attention to proper food intake, dietary supplementation, and exercise.

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