Tired of the 9-5 Rat Race?? Let's talk.. (brainwashed sheep *******s pls go)

[TAS44]

Father is a self-employed plumber. Works all different kinds of hours whenever he wants. 9-6 on super busy days and half the time only 2-4 hours of work on slow days. Takes a bunch of days off throughout the year. Still easily makes 50k on an average year. He said he could do up to 90k if he was really dedicated and wanted to bust his ass full time. The work isn't exactly fun or easy though.

[GamerMisc]

6 am- 6 pm brah

K, thought you refering to a camp rotation job in northern alberta, them's the gigs you want to get. brb full weeks off every month while still making 6 figures..

[MrJohnLocke]

Oh my business involves really interesting stuff, top level tech, but you know what? I gotta manage contractors, do sales calls, figure out with my partners what strategy to take on stuff. And then things always go wrong, or customers demand new stuff.

Turning your passion into a business is a very good way to lose all passion for it.

Do you still enjoy it? Would you do something else if you had a choice?

[SuitedShredder]

if you get a job you enjoy, you wont care what hours you work

[MrSKIN]

in.

been working an office job for almost 2 yrs now straight out of uni, need a way out

[FEA]

if you get a job you enjoy, you wont care what hours you work

Wrong. But okay. I get your message.

[sFunk]

just read the four hour workweek and ??? profit?

[Chunkithunder]

go to northern Alberta and live the 6-6 life
much better

or be a cop and live the 6-6 life in a normal city

[schnit]

sorry brah but that's rubbish. you'll end up hating what you love.

never mix business with pleasure imo.

I've had a job that I loved, I worked long hours with only about .5 days off each month. If going to work is FUN, how could you hate it?

[RyzoBrah]

age: 16, in college 2 and a half days a week, climbing telephone poles and pylons. getting paid for it all notbad.jpg once i have enough money or get my trade i'm off to australia

[eatyou]

in.

been working an office job for almost 2 yrs now straight out of uni, need a way out

how much u making

[TrenchTownRock]

What exactly do you do?
Any suggestions for me? Im 25 and single.

srs brah you gotta find your own thing best suited to you. work on the things you like to do and try and generate money from it.

i have done a few things from repairing arcade machines (loved spending my time in arcades back in the day. made money from it.) to selling online (blagged myself accounts with a few wholesalers so i could buy building materials for cheap when i was doing up my house. starting selling the goods to others and made a raise). at the moment i just sell online. easy money flipping items on ebay. i dont even buy and store the goods. i just up the auctions and buy the goods as i sell them, and then just forward them onto the buyer.

but truth be told i aint ballin 10K a day. i drive a 10 year old seat leon. i have a terraced house and the second house is a semi. no mansions and condos. i have simple tastes and happy with what i have. i live a happy, easy life. its 2am here (UK). i got to wake up at 7am to take the kids to school. but thats cool cos i will just come home and have a nap on the couch to make up for it after i drop them off. this is how we living. its not for everyone. but its definitely for me. if i was 9-5 then my sleep and life would have been dictated by the 9-5. i cant do with that. i would rather sacrifice luxuries to be free. but like i said its not for everyone. some people need the latest 'this' and the latest 'that' in order to be happy. they need to reprogram their minds.

[backbrah69]

started a small business selling **** online, which is making enough to cover my personal expenses which isnt much since im 18 and still living at home. pretty much making what some people make on average per hour at my age, but i dnt have to "go" to work.

[TheInfamous]

if you get a job you enjoy, you wont care what hours you work

THIS. But most people in the rat race are not doing it for love, they are doing it for money.

[angramainyuJR]

I know a guy who went busking from the east coast to the west coast, traveling mostly by sneaking onto trains

[F23]

if you get a job you enjoy, you wont care what hours you work

I used to think this is true. It's not. I'm in my first year as an MD right now. Pretty damn awesome job. But the hours can be very very long. Even though I love the job, I wish I had more time off so I can sleep, gym, etc.

[jwall11]

if you get a job you enjoy, you wont care what hours you work

for you, maybe.

but some people just aren't the "work for someone else" type, no matter what the job. i don't want someone telling me when to clock in and clock out everyday. regardless of money i'd rather live on my own terms.

[Tom117]

Find a job you like/have a passion for? Profit?

[Tom117]

for you, maybe.

but some people just aren't the "work for someone else" type, no matter what the job. i don't want someone telling me when to clock in and clock out everyday. regardless of money i'd rather live on my own terms.

I hate weekday mornings/afternoons anyway. Even if I worked for myself I'd do all my work in the day. Night time is better for personal time.

[Tom117]

just read the four hour workweek and ??? profit?

That tim ferris bullsheit? The same guy who says you can build 20 pounds of muscle in a week?

[MrSKIN]

how much u making

55k a yr

[CanaDan]

I currently work in an office 9 - 5 at a telecommunications company, am on 90k a year. Have been phucking my ex for about 9 months now and she's becoming a pest. Still live with my folks even though I'm 25 so i don't have any real responsibilities keeping me here.

Just becoming disillusioned with this life. I'm thinking of getting my PADI open water diving licence and maybe some other qualifications and moving over to Thailand (Ko Tao, Phi Phi or Phuket) or Cambodia (Sihanoukville) to work for a few years. I'm considering putting 75% of my savings into shares and the other 25% into term deposits. (I have around 40k saved)

Meet new people, learn a lot of new things etc. Live life only once.

PM me if going to Cambodia, lived/ worked there for almost a year, also in on interdast thrad

[gatovolador]

Do you still enjoy it? Would you do something else if you had a choice?

Truth be told, my life is total hell right now. I work nearly every waking hour on what would be cool tech if it wasn't insanely stressful. On the plus side, we have a chance at closing a huge (for a 3 man company) contract soon, and that would allow me to hire a 5-10 people to offload some of the work I'm doing now.

The problem is it totally sucks working for other people, and I've found I stop giving a **** with most jobs after a few weeks. Even a cool startup- it'd not be my company, and I'd have to work just hard as I do now, for my own company. I know a ton of guys working long hours for their 9-5s and they aren't really happy with it.

It's very much a catch-22. So, I might as well suffer like a mother****er and try to make it big.

[WoofieNugget]

Have you ever tried starting a serious business?

9-5:
Get a good paycheck
Insurance
Work 35-50 hours a week
Vacation
Sick days

Own Business:
Work every waking hour
Maybe get rich, more likely go bankrupt, even if you are good
Massive stress
No vacation
No life

9-5
Go to the same place every day and deal with the same BS people in a soul sucking place
Nobody uses insurance (we have free health care anyway in Canada) for anything except massages
Work sometimes 50+ hours a week because a manager told you to or you get fired
Limited vacation time especially if new at the job (2/3 weeks per year)

Own Business (what I do)
Work because I want to - for something I love doing. I get up at 5am every day and don't mind because I actually like going to work
Make as much money as I want to
Work 30-35 hours a week max because I'm skilled and people will pay for skills
I organize my own schedule so if I need time off during the day I just book it
Very little stress relative to many 9-5ers I know
Can take weeks off any time - just have to keep customers happy

It all depends on your perspective. I would never go back to a 9-5 job.

[CoreMaster75]

Have you ever tried starting a serious business?

9-5:
Get a good paycheck
Insurance
Work 35-50 hours a week
Vacation
Sick days

Own Business:
Work every waking hour
Maybe get rich, more likely go bankrupt, even if you are good
Massive stress
No vacation
No life

Starting a business is hard as ****, dude

EDIT: There are people who work even harder, some of those fresh off the boat immigrants. There's a won-ton place in Seattle, husband + wife work there, open 13 hours a day, 7 days a week. That means they are pulling 16 hour days, all said and done. I walked by there the other day and they were closed for a few weeks for vacation. Good for them.

Do that for a couple years and then hire people to work under you. Live the good life.

[OnTheVolley]

Oh my business involves really interesting stuff, top level tech, but you know what? I gotta manage contractors, do sales calls, figure out with my partners what strategy to take on stuff. And then things always go wrong, or customers demand new stuff.

Turning your passion into a business is a very good way to lose all passion for it.

sounds like loser talk to me.

[harris505]

I work as a watersports instructor in the med in the summer and a ski instructor in the alps in the winter, the hours are long, the pay is terrible, but. i live in parasdise compared to the uk. leading an socialble lifestyle. without a dull moment and I smash more.girls in 1 month than i would in a year back home

[Lowkeii]

Work a ten day on ten day off schedule up in northern Alberta, company flies me in and home when I'm done. Spend my days off living in the mountains snowboarding during the winter and traveling in the summer. Very rarely actually at home. Over half the year off

Not very conventional Imo. Love it though and don't ever plan on going back to a mon-fri schedule again

[gatovolador]

Do that for a couple years and then hire people to work under you. Live the good life.

That's the general idea. Pull in a few big contracts, hire people, make a nice big fat margin. Getting there is a shocking amount of work.

What makes it harder is I have the skillset to pull a $100-150k jobs where I don't need to work very hard and can do reasonably cool stuff. To run my own business requires 100x more effort, for not significantly more payoff, if you look at it from an expected value point of view. If you want to make big money, you probably stand a better chance in finance.

[jwall11]

I work as a watersports instructor in the med in the summer and a ski instructor in the alps in the winter, the hours are long, the pay is terrible, but. i live in parasdise compared to the uk. leading an socialble lifestyle. without a dull moment and I smash more.girls in 1 month than i would in a year back home

what's "the med"?