Ive done everything imaginable yet still fat -- srs?

[gumbacicc1]

can i get a link bro?


@dropping cals... i would but i reckon 1200-1500 cals is too damn low.....


@ thyroid issue yes ive suspected this for years.. got blood checked, TSH levels were fine but didnt check T4, besides ive taken t3 too saw a little bit of a change in energy but didnt lose a lot of weight

I suspect you may be miscalculating your calories. It would be surprising if someone your size can't drop fat on 2000 calories a day, working out and doing cardio. If this is truly the case, I would get the thyroid checked out.

[YouAintReady]

try doing cardio in the morning when you wake up or after your lifting session. Should melt the fat off of you. I feel like something isnt right or you aren't tracking your calories properly

[AleFCP]

lol dnp good luck getting blind

[Slie]

@dropping cals... i would but i reckon 1200-1500 cals is too damn low.....

You've done everything imaginable but you refuse to lower your calories?

[ANIMALISTIKZ]

I suspect you may be miscalculating your calories. It would be surprising if someone your size can't drop fat on 2000 calories a day, working out and doing cardio. If this is truly the case, I would get the thyroid checked out.

went from 200mg DNP up to 600mg to whoever was wondering.

@ gumba: I have literally cal counted and starved myself, and i have always had a low metabolism. I am not very active granted, not much more than sedentary most of the time yet i should still be at the very least 2400-2500 for my size as a maintenance. During my cuts ive eaten 1500-2000 everyday(srs). And i could post my food log everyday for 8 months..

You've done everything imaginable but you refuse to lower your calories?

ive down to 1500 cals... if i go any lower ill be risking mass loss for sure. I started cutting at 2400 cals on IF to some results(like 20% bf), and went all the way down to 1500

[Pepsi88]

Holy fuk at dnpnive never read anyone on the misc taking that other than zyzz

Try tren tech and report back

[Braveheart91]

Tren.

That's my honest answer tbh. Seems you have a sh!t metabolism. I on the otherhand tried bulking clean on 6k and lost weight -.- fml metabolism.

[PattyOLantern]

@dropping cals... i would but i reckon 1200-1500 cals is too damn low.....

My LBM is 175 and I'm cutting at 1500. If you aren't losing at your current cals, they're too high.

Calculate your protein and fat intake from .8g x LBM and .4g x BW respectively and add in carbs for filler.



Just seems like you're overestimating your activity level, that's all.

Op seems to be ending his day at maintenance, he needs to eat less or do more exercise

Never use cardio to achieve a calorie deficit. Cardio should be used as a supplement to a dietary calorie deficit.

[gumbacicc1]

went from 200mg DNP up to 600mg to whoever was wondering.

@ gumba: I have literally cal counted and starved myself, and i have always had a low metabolism. I am not very active granted, not much more than sedentary most of the time yet i should still be at the very least 2400-2500 for my size as a maintenance. During my cuts ive eaten 1500-2000 everyday(srs). And i could post my food log everyday for 8 months..



ive down to 1500 cals... if i go any lower ill be risking mass loss for sure. I started cutting at 2400 cals on IF to some results(like 20% bf), and went all the way down to 1500

Post your current diet. I'd be interested to see what it looks like. Seems odd that the calories are that low and you're still not dropping fat.

[ANIMALISTIKZ]

ive done tren. works decently well but it killed my hairline, will not touch that or gear ever again IMO.

heres an example of diet. I dont have a structured diet, just structured macros.


So right now id aim for

1500 cals, 220g protein, 100g carbs, only about 30g fat

i know youll suggest to lower carbs to like 0-50 and fill in with fat but ive been taking the IFFYM approach and focusing on the cals. Eating the carbs allows me to hit such a low cal.... let me know what you think.

foods are:

egg whites, broc, chicken breast, whey, blueberries, cheese, bananas, milk(sometimes), PB 2.0, and a couple slices of bread.

if you can suggest a structured diet for me or something thatd be great, have done it in the past.. but now i just focus on a macros to hit as its more flexible.

[Ace Thedics]

I know that feel, it blows my mind sometimes.

I have even went down to 1700cals/day some times and it seemed like my body adjusted and made that my maintenance. I only see weight loss @ 1200ish cals/day (srs).

My body is fighting hard to keep the fat.

edit: 1200cals + 500mg dnp

[gumbacicc1]

ive done tren. works decently well but it killed my hairline, will not touch that or gear ever again IMO.

heres an example of diet. I dont have a structured diet, just structured macros.


So right now id aim for

1500 cals, 220g protein, 100g carbs, only about 30g fat

i know youll suggest to lower carbs to like 0-50 and fill in with fat but ive been taking the IFFYM approach and focusing on the cals. Eating the carbs allows me to hit such a low cal.... let me know what you think.

foods are:

egg whites, broc, chicken breast, whey, blueberries, cheese, bananas, milk(sometimes), PB 2.0, and a couple slices of bread.

if you can suggest a structured diet for me or something thatd be great, have done it in the past.. but now i just focus on a macros to hit as its more flexible.

No, I meant with actual foods and serving portions. I have no problem with the macros. I'm honestly suspecting that you are under-counting the calories in some of the foods you are eating. If not, as was said by others, check your thyroid.

[rockandrollaz]

I'll just tell you one thing

Never don't give up

lol aware

[ace333]

Considering DNP is supposed to be one of the best possible fat burners there is, and you still aren't losing, you're phucked OP.


notsrs, but since you're already going down that road try Clen maybe?

[Ace Thedics]

Considering DNP is supposed to be one of the best possible fat burners there is, and you still aren't losing, you're phucked OP.


notsrs, but since you're already going down that road try Clen maybe?

500 cals/day + EC Stack + Clen + DNP

Go for it OP

[PattyOLantern]

Too much protein, too many carbs, not nearly enough fat. Adjust macros accordingly, use carbs as filler, and you'll see progress.

Eat the yolks, get rid of the bread, eat more fiber (black beans, green beans, baby spinach), throw some top round steak in there.



My normal day is as follows...
2PM: 6 whole eggs (5 if XL - just depends what's on sale), 28g feta cheese, 1 Tbsp macadamia nut oil, sauteed baby spinach leaves
5PM: enough chicken breasts/top round to meet rest of protein/fat needs, black beans/green beans, guacamole (if eating CB)
Post-workout: 1 scoop of Muscle Milk
10PM: 2 scoops of 2% cottage cheese


I get most of the stuff at Costco.

[rockandrollaz]

stop eating altogether bro, let's see how long you can go. you will gain muscle back in no time.
im in your similar situation and this is where i'm slowly going to, as intermittent fasting is giving me result, but as soon as I fukk up, fat comes back on love handles and belly like nothing ever happened, I know I'm 39 and been skinny fat until the age of 35, so I know that I just have to never don't give up bro

[BigBeard86]

aware of IF--ive done it in the past with decent results, however it doesnt fit my schedule now. My eating window would be 6-2am which is pretty ****ty since i work 630-12am weekdays

make it fit your schedule. i dont eat for 6-7 hours after i train. i make it fit my schedule.

[grizzlebees]

No, I meant with actual foods and serving portions. I have no problem with the macros. I'm honestly suspecting that you are under-counting the calories in some of the foods you are eating. If not, as was said by others, check your thyroid.

This... how are you measuring your food? Do you use a food scale and proper measuring cups/utensils for stuff you prepare at home?

I was surprised how far off I was on some stuff till i started measuring it out when preparing meals.

[hardestout89]

dust yourself off and try again

[thefederalist]

OP. do a 48 hour fast once a week. srs.

[PrettyDeepBrah]

i know that feel
went as high as 3000 cal because i thought i was under-eating and over-training and as low as 1200 cal but felt like a bitch eating that little

i workout 4-5days a week 3 lifting 2 cardio each 90min-2hrs

currently on IF and EC but that fcking belly fat

[WheytWut92]

Bodybuild for endomorph is all about the hormones,, lots of hgh,, trenbolona,, testosterona and no more than 250 calories a day.

GH15 approved

[Pepsi88]

Bodybuild for endomorph is all about the hormones,, lots of hgh,, trenbolona,, testosterona and no more than 250 calories a day.

GH15 approved

Only 250
Calories a day?

No way gh15 said that

[Pepsi88]

liposuction

Also post some pics of your current physiques maybe you are lean and just have some sort of bigorexia
Disorder

[LiLRyan]

You have to learn how your body reacts to certain foods and exercise. For me I eat small meals, try to keep it simple. Drink mostly water. High intensity workouts to get the blood flowing, and when you can't do anymore? You do more.

[DAames]

1) You're miscalculating calories. Are you weighing everything you put in your mouth?

2) Your hormonal profile is severely damaged. See a doctor.

3) You are a wizard.

[Jhalf]

Is your AVI accurate?

[cablesbrah]

Toasting in a roll bread

[x-trainer ben]

What is wrong with me? i have literally taking everything available, still fat. Diet is in check, cal count everyday, yet still cant get below 15% bf or so(and its all stored in waist).

I read through this thread and i see you have tried all of the typical things, so it is time to start a long distance jogging program ((10 min mile/3 miles). It should cut the waist nicely.