Aware me on how dreamers bulk happened?

[Hamzzza]

Most gains (fat) were made in 3 months.
I didnt understand the concepts of anything.
As a result
- I overtrained (by a long shot). My training was in fact consistent. So consistent that my cns never had a chance to recover.
- I over ate by about 3,500 calories above my maintenance daily.
- The packet rice was packed with sodium, Hence the inflation in my face.

lol gotta love all the assumptions made with followup conclusions based on said assumptions.

lol


in after dreamer

[Hrad]

Was unaware that that dreamer bulking was named after this dude, in on epic thread.

[dekd]

I will pay someone 50$ to follow his original diet/training routine, just to see the results (semi srs)

Oh and Dreamer has returned?

[whysodirty]

jesus christ bro at 91kg you look horrible.

what did your parents say ? lol

[Dreamer_]

jesus christ bro at 91kg you look horrible.

what did your parents say ? lol

They were mirin brah

[RegParkWasNatty]

[wheynweed]

He ate chit food. He mentioned eating microwave dinners and the like. Looks like he had terrible genetics and a crap routine as well.

[sheebal]

They were mirin brah

you were so ugly when you got fat, like your face was a melt-down product of Barbie or some shiiit

[Aftiel]

bulks but doesnt lift, wat

[Dreamer_]

you were so ugly when you got fat, like your face was a melt-down product of Barbie or some shiiit

That hurts bro, I always thought you were attracted to me. We could of been together, now you've thrown it all away.

[RegParkWasNatty]

So working out for 3 hours per day and eating thousands of calories above maintenance = Dreamer

What about your strength? Did it go up as you got fatter?

Did you have a workout log that showed what you did?

[extrahold]

lol in on dreamer thread

[TheMarshall]

You became so much more aesthetic since you fixed your routine and diet.

[LuisEnrikee]

wtf dreamer had a diet named after him? oh lawd
this is why i love the misc

[Dreamer_]

So working out for 3 hours per day and eating thousands of calories above maintenance = Dreamer

What about your strength? Did it go up as you got fatter?

I feel like people don't understand the concept of over training..
Yes my strength went up. But due to over training which was discovered through hind sight. My strength would constantly stall and when it did, like all rookies do when dedicated to something. I would increase the volume/intensity in hopes to break through the plateau.

[RyzoBrah]

in after dreamer

[SolidCarmine]

I feel like people don't understand the concept of over training..
Yes my strength went up. But due to over training which was discovered through hind sight. My strength would constantly stall and when it did, like all rookies do when dedicated to something. I would increase the volume/intensity in hopes to break through the plateau.

Overtraining didn't make you fat, the excess calories did. I bulked from 130 to 172 in 9 months and still wear a size 32 in jeans. I eat 3000 calories a day and workout 6 days a week for an hour and a half.

When I was eating 3500 calories, I noticed immediate fat gains so I cut to 3000.

Can't even imagine what a 5500 calorie diet would have done to me.

[otakutrevan]

Most gains (fat) were made in 3 months.
I didnt understand the concepts of anything.
As a result
- I overtrained (by a long shot). My training was in fact consistent. So consistent that my cns never had a chance to recover.
- I over ate by about 3,500 calories above my maintenance daily.
- The packet rice was packed with sodium, Hence the inflation in my face.

lol gotta love all the assumptions made with followup conclusions based on said assumptions.

[vtecaddict]

Monday - Friday:
1st meal:
7 weet bix 2 eggs and glass of milk
2nd Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
3rd Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
4th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
5th Meal:
3 eggs and glass of milk or water
6th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
7th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
8th Meal:
7 weetbix 2 eggs and glass of milk
-GYM Time-
9th meal Whole large chicken and glass of milk or water

Saturday and Sunday
Consisted of anything i felt like really.
Whole chickens, Rump steaks, Weetbix and occasionally cheat meals.

[vtecaddict]

I will pay someone 50$ to follow his original diet/training routine, just to see the results (semi srs)

Oh and Dreamer has returned?

i've done it in the past.

basically you had perma moonface/10 rolls on your stomach/had zero stamina/had a huge double chin.

would rather be a skinny ******* than go through a dream bulk

[Novella]

[catsonfire]

Im going to guess he tried to follow an Arnold workout routine with 5000 sets stupid lightweight training and never progressed in his compounds

That plus overtraining

Or ultimate fail genetics

Only ways possible.

[Dreamer_]

Overtraining didn't make you fat, the excess calories did. I bulked from 130 to 172 in 9 months and still wear a size 32 in jeans. I eat 3000 calories a day and workout 6 days a week for an hour and a half.

When I was eating 3500 calories, I noticed immediate fat gains so I cut to 3000.

Can't even imagine what a 5500 calorie diet would have done to me.

lol i never said over training made me fat. I'm saying that over training is the primary reason why my strength and lean muscle gains were poor. As it seems to be popular belief that I was either not training or not training hard enough. While anyone can understand how this assumption can be made. It's couldn't be further from the truth.

How do I know what the truth is?
Well I lived the experience of a failed bulk and am now living the experience of a successful bulk. Therefore making it fairly easy to identify where and how i went wrong. I can't see how one could argue with that.

[shanedawg]

lol i never said over training made me fat. I'm saying that over training is the primary reason why my strength and lean muscle gains were poor. As it seems to be popular belief that I was either not training or not training hard enough. While anyone can understand how this assumption can be made. It's couldn't be further from the truth.

How do I know what the truth is?
Well I lived the experience of a failed bulk and am now living the experience of a successful bulk. Therefore making it fairly easy to identify where and how i went wrong. I can't see how one could argue with that.

This. GJDM!

[orca23554]

lol i never said over training made me fat. I'm saying that over training is the primary reason why my strength and lean muscle gains were poor. As it seems to be popular belief that I was either not training or not training hard enough. While anyone can understand how this assumption can be made. It's couldn't be further from the truth.

How do I know what the truth is?
Well I lived the experience of a failed bulk and am now living the experience of a successful bulk. Therefore making it fairly easy to identify where and how i went wrong. I can't see how one could argue with that.

What were your starting and final lifts on the compounds during your failed bulk?

Based on your exp of failed and successful bulking would you say around 500cal surplus per day would be a decent way to bulk?

[Toneyy]

Monday - Friday:
1st meal:
7 weet bix 2 eggs and glass of milk
2nd Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
3rd Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
4th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
5th Meal:
3 eggs and glass of milk or water
6th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
7th Meal:
Bowl Of continental chicken and vegetables family pack rice (125grams)
8th Meal:
7 weetbix 2 eggs and glass of milk
-GYM Time-
9th meal Whole large chicken and glass of milk or water

Saturday and Sunday
Consisted of anything i felt like really.
Whole chickens, Rump steaks, Weetbix and occasionally cheat meals.

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EDIT: "and occasionally cheat meals"

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[kapput]

What were your starting and final lifts on the compounds during your failed bulk?

Based on your exp of failed and successful bulking would you say around 500cal surplus per day would be a decent way to bulk?

this I wanna know lifts before and after the dreamer

[Dreamer_]

Based on your exp of failed and successful bulking would you say around 500cal surplus per day would be a decent way to bulk?

Yeah in between 300 - 500 is good for me. I don't like to go by the 500cal rule. It's about as useful as telling a person to go on a 40/40/20 split. It's not specific to the person. A better way is to go is by adding 10 - 20% to my total maintenance calories. For cutting I would subtract inbetween 10 - 20%. Atm, I feel like adding 20% is too much so i backed it down to 15%.

[FitStick]

Dreamer's stats:
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 200 lbs

Damn, looks pretty solid. Mind=blown, never knew you were 6'4"

[AlbinoBuffalo]

lols he dun goofd. ate like a prosperous king, trained like lazy sloot