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    sprinters GTFIH

    1/4 inch needles or 1/4 in pyramids for my sprinting spikes? or does it matter?
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    not a sprinter but needles
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    pyramids definitely, they make me feel like i'm moving much faster.
    i run 100s, 200s, and 400s
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    Needles, I always find pyramids stick a lot more into the ground
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    I should also mention that it depends on your experience.


    Beginning sprinters are better off using pyramid spikes until very good form is achieved, because it's possible to scratch the opposite leg with with spikes if you overpronate on a stride. Needle spikes are used mostly for running on all-weather tracks that have a springy surface. These spikes are under the forefoot of the shoe, because short sprints are run entirely on the toes. This allows optimal forward motion, with the spikes keeping the foot pointed forward.<-------------Copied from the internet but it's good info
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    i run 100s and 200s, and an occasional 400 but my pr is only a 59 so i dont run that often. thank you for the advice! repped
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    Run on pyramids, because unless you are very very light needles are a far less efficient design. I have a pair of pyramids, and a pair of christmas trees (sometimes illigal). Christmas trees are the most efficient unless you are very very light haha. The difference between them is needles sink all the way down into the track, and the track has 'swells' around the spike causing the most resistance when trying to remove. The pyramid bairly sinks in, and the christmas tree doesn't go into the track at all.

    Fun fact of day: the most optimal bayonett shape is a pyramid shape also, because it is the easiest to pull out of someone. When you bayonett someone with a knife or cone 'needle' it is very hard to pull out of someone.
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    based on this thread I might just switch to pyramids
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    Pryamids are much better if your event includes running any turns. The slight advantage you may have from needles in an event like the 55 or 100 is minimal. Whats more important is that you have a sprinting style shoe. It will have a solid forefoot plate and little sole in the heel portion.
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    Originally Posted by nicholkid View Post
    based on this thread I might just switch to pyramids
    Do it, you probably won't regret it.
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    Originally Posted by MWheatley View Post
    Pryamids are much better if your event includes running any turns. The slight advantage you may have from needles in an event like the 55 or 100 is minimal. Whats more important is that you have a sprinting style shoe. It will have a solid forefoot plate and little sole in the heel portion.
    Lol there are only a handfull (literally you could probably count on 1 hand) of sprinting shoes that have a heel..., also you get a slight advantage from pyramids, not needles. Lastly needle spikes are slightly better for turns because they provide more traction. You need to dig a little bit harder with pyramids on turns...
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    i just use regular shoes.
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    Originally Posted by Rawdogmadfemalz View Post
    Lol there are only a handfull (literally you could probably count on 1 hand) of sprinting shoes that have a heel..., also you get a slight advantage from pyramids, not needles. Lastly needle spikes are slightly better for turns because they provide more traction. You need to dig a little bit harder with pyramids on turns...
    my asics have a heel(origonaly middle distance spikes, used to run 400 and 800) theyre amazing for sprinting too
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    Originally Posted by alanking View Post
    i just use regular shoes.
    you are seriously missing out. rand the 400 in 65 before spikes, 59 after, they make a diference
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    Originally Posted by Slaytonslayer View Post
    my asics have a heel(origonaly middle distance spikes, used to run 400 and 800) theyre amazing for sprinting too
    yeah, but a heal is pointless for actual sprinting. You shouldn't be anywheres except on your toes. Hence why they were a mid distance shoe :P.
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    i thought by pyramid you meant xmas spikes, get christmas tree spikes if possible, needle if not.
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    Just from my experience...I run the 100, 200, and 400. It really depends on the experience and what sprints you do. If you have needles you will have more traction/grip in the curves, unless you are a straight up 100m sprinter then get neesles. If you only run straights or 100, go for pyramids daw.
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    Originally Posted by Apollonius View Post
    Just from my experience...I run the 100, 200, and 400. It really depends on the experience and what sprints you do. If you have needles you will have more traction/grip in the curves, unless you are a straight up 100m sprinter then get neesles. If you only run straights or 100, go for pyramids daw.
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    Originally Posted by Rawdogmadfemalz View Post
    Lastly needle spikes are slightly better for turns because they provide more traction. You need to dig a little bit harder with pyramids on turns...
    Maybe if you are 150lbs and less. Otherwise needles tend to actually break off running turns proving their excessive stick to the track. I like needles for long jump. Also this isnt just my opinion but rather what i was taught by my running coach all through high school. He was an olympic runner for africa in the 90's.
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    also you can use pyramids anywhere but needles are sometimes banned. so you will need pyramids anyways
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