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    Can't build mid back between shoulder blades

    can someone give me any tips on building my mid back? specifically my rhomboids/traps? I do many back exercises ranging from pull downs, pull ups, seated and standing rows, but this is the one area that I can't build. Its starting to look odd now because the areas behind my shoulder blades keep getting bigger, but it looks like I have a huge gap in between.

    What can I do?
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    shrugs? deads? sounds like u are missing them wide grip pull ups are great for rhoms too.
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    Heavy shrugs, squeezing like crazy at the top.

    Hammerstrength shrugs are tops!
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    thanks for the replies guys. deadlifts is something that I can't do right now, since I injured my back a while ago

    and how would shrugs work the midback? I thought they were only benefifial at developing the upper traps. I used to do shrugs all the time and my upper traps got well developed so I stopped doing them. I also didn't notice any midback development, so was I doing them incorrectly?

    flangmasterj, what are hammerstrength shrugs?
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    Try face pulls and make sure you squeeze and hold for a sec. People usually do them for rear delts but they also work your upper back and shoulder blade area. Same with reverse flys.
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    Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    can someone give me any tips on building my mid back? specifically my rhomboids/traps? I do many back exercises ranging from pull downs, pull ups, seated and standing rows, but this is the one area that I can't build. Its starting to look odd now because the areas behind my shoulder blades keep getting bigger, but it looks like I have a huge gap in between.

    What can I do?
    Behind neck pulldowns using a medium, parallel grip.

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    I wonder what reverse flies would do.
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    Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    can someone give me any tips on building my mid back? specifically my rhomboids/traps? I do many back exercises ranging from pull downs, pull ups, seated and standing rows, but this is the one area that I can't build. Its starting to look odd now because the areas behind my shoulder blades keep getting bigger, but it looks like I have a huge gap in between.

    What can I do?
    Bent over rows with a narrower grip.....
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    Incline shrugs would help as well.

    Though you might want to re-assess your rowing form...

    In any pulldown/up or row, focus on pulling your elbows back, and squeeze shoulder blades together at the top.
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    Originally Posted by jmusclehead View Post
    Bent over rows with a narrower grip.....
    Why would that help?
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    Deads for mid back thickness? Bubublicious advice.
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    I really like do low cable rows with an overhand grip and hands spaced about the same distance as when doing bb bench press. Pull the bar towards your lower chest/sternum - essentially towards your xiphoid process (that pointy bone at the bottom of your sternum) and make sure to squeeze your shoulder blades together. Supported t-bar rows (with a similar grip) are also very good.

    Just keep in mind, the function of those muscles is to retract the shoulder blades, so any exercise that does so will work.
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    Originally Posted by Dr Clay View Post
    Just keep in mind, the function of those muscles is to retract the shoulder blades, so any exercise that does so will work.
    x2 Exactly.

    Anytime you want to develop a muscle, find an exercise that makes that muscle contract...that's pretty much it.
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    Why would that help?
    LiftRite episode #9 with pro BB Toney Freeman. He demonstrates the close grip, underhand grip bent over row. He says it's a bit awkward because of the narrow grip, but, recommends it for hitting the middle back area.
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    Originally Posted by genepool View Post
    shrugs? deads? sounds like u are missing them wide grip pull ups are great for rhoms too.
    Everything this guy said. Also do seated cable rows. There's also an exercise called overhead lat raise. It is meant to work the delts through a different range of motion, but it also works the traps.
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    Seated Cable rows with an overhand grip.
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    Sorry, just noticed that you posted the same advice. My bad!
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    deads, lat shrugs, shrugs
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    Reverse pec deck for the rhomboids.
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    Deadlifts smash this area.

    The upper back is maintained in a flat position (scapula retracted/depressed).
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    To build mid back simply do bicep curl followed by medial bench press squat
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    Originally Posted by DiamondDelts View Post
    Deads for mid back thickness? Bubublicious advice.
    DD didn't grow a thicker mid back from deadlifting, therefore deadlifting doesn't help with mid back thickness?
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    Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    thanks for the replies guys. deadlifts is something that I can't do right now, since I injured my back a while ago

    and how would shrugs work the midback? I thought they were only benefifial at developing the upper traps. I used to do shrugs all the time and my upper traps got well developed so I stopped doing them. I also didn't notice any midback development, so was I doing them incorrectly?

    flangmasterj, what are hammerstrength shrugs?
    Your traps run from your neck down to about the bottom of the shoulder blades. Shrugs work the entire trap. not the "upper" trap. Not exactly 100% what area of your back you are describing. but Pull ups, done properly and with weight are great for overall back development. Bent over rows are also excellent.

    when you do pull ups you want to arch back slightly and end at the top of the motion with the bar almost to your chest, kinda like a half row. fantastic for back growth
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    Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    can someone give me any tips on building my mid back? specifically my rhomboids/traps? I do many back exercises ranging from pull downs, pull ups, seated and standing rows, but this is the one area that I can't build. Its starting to look odd now because the areas behind my shoulder blades keep getting bigger, but it looks like I have a huge gap in between.

    What can I do?
    T-Bar rows...
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    Wide-Grip Seated Cable Rows With an Overhand or Neutral Grip.
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    How about a seated tug of war pull using a laden sled?

    It looks like a seated cable row just that you pull the sled towards you.

    I did it yesterday for the first time and god,my midback is sore today...
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    BTB shrugs, incline shrugs, medium hammer grip cable rows, rack pulls/deads
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    Wide grip rows to your upper chest. This'll also hit the rear delts hard too.

    You also might have scapular winging, in which case push-ups and standing military press might help.
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