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    Didn't know you had a log, your lifts are beastly, really interested to see your progress! Sub'd

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    Originally Posted by Juustin View Post
    Didn't know you had a log, your lifts are beastly, really interested to see your progress! Sub'd

    What's a cheap beta-a and cit. mal. brand? (And why do you take such huge servings, ex. 10g and 12g)
    Glad to have your support.

    Check Pure Bulk.

    Citrulline Malate
    Beta Alanine
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    I rarely get any sides from any compounds, so I can make use of higher dosages directly before my workouts without feeling itchy or nauseous like most others would. The typical Preworkout dosages would be 2-3g Beta Alanine, 2.5g Creatine, 3-4g Citrulline Malate.
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    Originally Posted by strangeclouds View Post
    Glad to have your support.

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    I rarely get any sides from any compounds, so I can make use of higher dosages directly before my workouts without feeling itchy or nauseous like most others would. The typical Preworkout dosages would be 2-3g Beta Alanine, 2.5g Creatine, 3-4g Citrulline Malate.
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    Will be doing chest, back, and some bag training for cardio shortly. Stay tuned.

    Note: Next week I'll be switching over to full body workouts eod to start off the cycle.
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    Deffinately in on this man your an animal

    Seriously interested in seeing your transformation

    Your at the stage I want to be by the time 18 so have a good bit of time but seriously need to start getting serious about this rather than just taking it not so serious and just messing about with it

    Anyways man good luck
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    Originally Posted by uBbba10 View Post
    Deffinately in on this man your an animal

    Seriously interested in seeing your transformation

    Your at the stage I want to be by the time 18 so have a good bit of time but seriously need to start getting serious about this rather than just taking it not so serious and just messing about with it

    Anyways man good luck
    Idk about at 18, but by 20, I have no doubt you could be bigger than I am. Best of luck to you.

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    Chest and Back


    Bench Press
    252.5 x 16
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15

    DB Flyes
    70 x 15
    70 x 15
    70 x 15
    70 x 15
    70 x 15

    Dips
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20

    Incline Press (wide and flared grip)
    225 x 10
    225 x 10
    225 x 10
    225 x 10
    225 x 8

    Bent Over Rows
    225 x 20
    225 x 20
    225 x 20
    225 x 20

    Lat Pulldowns
    205 x 8
    205 x 8
    205 x 8
    205 x 8

    Barbell Pull-Overs
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 9

    Bent Over DB Raises
    40 x 12
    40 x 12
    40 x 12
    40 x 12

    DB Shrugs (hold 3" from body)
    50 x 50
    50 x 50
    50 x 50
    50 x 50


    I hit the bag for 30mins and then got on the stationary bike for another 30mins and took another 20mins to relax on the back massagers in the hot tub.. And I called it a workout.

    1 week to the start of the cycle.
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    Originally Posted by strangeclouds View Post

    Chest and Back


    Bench Press
    252.5 x 16
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15
    252.5 x 15

    DB Flyes
    70 x 15
    70 x 15
    70 x 15
    70 x 15
    70 x 15

    Dips
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20
    20

    Incline Press (wide and flared grip)
    225 x 10
    225 x 10
    225 x 10
    225 x 10
    225 x 8

    Bent Over Rows
    225 x 20
    225 x 20
    225 x 20
    225 x 20

    Lat Pulldowns
    205 x 8
    205 x 8
    205 x 8
    205 x 8

    Barbell Pull-Overs
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 12
    135 x 9

    Bent Over DB Raises
    40 x 12
    40 x 12
    40 x 12
    40 x 12

    DB Shrugs (hold 3" from body)
    50 x 50
    50 x 50
    50 x 50
    50 x 50


    I hit the bag for 30mins and then got on the stationary bike for another 30mins and took another 20mins to relax on the back massagers in the hot tub.. And I called it a workout.

    1 week to the start of the cycle.
    Dat high rep bench press. You want dem hypertrophiez brah?
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    Originally Posted by wahesh View Post
    Dat high rep bench press. You want dem hypertrophiez brah?
    Yep, for the first time I'm not training specifically for strength. I'm training more for muscular endurance and improving my physique. Its also really the first time that Ive really buckled down on the diet. And the hard work is paying off before the cycle is even started!
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    Originally Posted by strangeclouds View Post
    Yep, for the first time I'm not training specifically for strength. I'm training more for muscular endurance and improving my physique. Its also really the first time that Ive really buckled down on the diet. And the hard work is paying off before the cycle is even started!
    Nice man, keep up the good work!
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    may have over done the chest a bit.. pretty intense cramping now. :/
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    when will it be mine turn for a 2 plate incline bench and row
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    when will it be mine turn for a 2 plate incline bench and row
    2 plates isn't too hard. 4 plates is much more impressive with those two lifts. can't wait to get my strength back up there.
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    Just took a few measurements. Chest is up 1.5" to 50.5"; arms are down a 1/4" to 17.75"; quads gained 1" up to 28" - everything else remained the same.

    Weight is still holding at 245 at an estimated 13% bf

    Did some ab work and hit the stationary bike for 40mins. Contemplating some squats later on or not.
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    40x12 flys, strong rear delts are strong!
    now if only they were big and developed... hopefully I can change that in the coming months.
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    Originally Posted by strangeclouds View Post
    Idk about at 18, but by 20, I have no doubt you could be bigger than I am. Best of luck to you.

    1min to the start of the workout. later
    Any tips on where to get started man ?

    The volume of your workouts..... I'd be fried after 1st excersise keep it up man
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    Originally Posted by uBbba10 View Post
    Any tips on where to get started man ?

    The volume of your workouts..... I'd be fried after 1st excersise keep it up man
    First things first, Diet comes first. Perfect your diet to meet your needs (cutting, bulking, recomping, maintaining). First diet, then training. For training, just stay dedicated, and try to lift eod. 5 x 5 imho is the best way to go, especially if you're going to make use of full body workouts. If you can get AT LEAST 15 reps at any given weight with in the first 3 sets (be sure not to skip out on sets 4 and 5), I'd recommend moving up the weight 2.5lbs for your next workout. It may seem like a small increment to move up, but if you're working out every other day, assuming everything went perfect you could potentially add 35lbs to your lifts every month!


    That said, my diet has been off the past few days. So far today, I've only had 800calories on the dot. Over 700 of which were from protein. So I'm likely gonna drop a few lbs very quickly over the next few days.
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    How long did you ride your bike to get to where you are currently??
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    What should I go for I was going to do a clean bulk .. Looking to gain pound a week

    If my maintenance is around 2600 ?
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    Im so ****ing in on this.
    How long did you ride your bike to get to where you are currently??
    Hard work and dedication got me to where I am today, not cycling.
    After I hit 415 on bench at 18yo naturally and raw, I wanted to take my training up a few notches. I'm far from my prime, but I did a few prohormones when I was 19 and 20 which lead to a serious injury that took me out of the game for a year. Then I did an AAS cycle when I was 21. Got back up to a double bodyweight bench (475 @ 230) at 22yo, but stopped lifting when my exfiancee cheated and left me - 8mos later I got back into it, and now here I am 7wks back into training at 23yo.
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    What should I go for I was going to do a clean bulk .. Looking to gain pound a week

    If my maintenance is around 2600 ?
    To gain a lb a wk you'd need a caloric surplus of at least 500 calories, so in your case, at least 3100 calories. Though I'd recommend bumping it up only 250-300, 400 at the most. The way things tend to work out, if an individual gains mass very quickly, it means their caloric surplus is high and they'll tend to have a higher amount of fat gain with their muscle. Slow and steady, with a caloric surplus of around 250calories will yield much leaner gains.
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    Well this looks promising

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    Those "individuals" probably never trained before in their lives.
    Nub gains?
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    Originally Posted by comps View Post
    Those "individuals" probably never trained before in their lives.
    Nub gains?
    You don't think its possible they gained .25lb of lean mass and dropped 1.25lbs of fat per week? I think it is.. and I think my results are going to far exceed that of which is seen in this study.
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    Originally Posted by strangeclouds View Post
    You don't think its possible they gained .25lb of lean mass and dropped 1.25lbs of fat per week? I think it is.. and I think my results are going to far exceed that of which is seen in this study.
    I think it is very possible, at the beginning.
    Feel free to prove me wrong, I'm subbed in to see the results.
    Interested in what supplements you will be on during this time, feel free to PM.
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    Stationary bike 40mins, abs 15mins, then workout as follows.

    Squats
    225 x 20
    225 x 20
    225 x 20
    225 x 20
    225 x 20

    CG EZ Curls
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    135 x 10

    Wide Grip BB Curls
    135 x 7
    95 x 10
    95 x 10
    95 x 10

    Leg Press
    225 x 50
    225 x 50
    225 x 50
    225 x 50

    Face Pulls
    90 x 20
    90 x 20
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    90 x 20

    Abs 15mins; Stationary bike 20mins


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    why so much protein? youon that slin time?
    1500 total before turning 20..Log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=139554953
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