Is Bulking good for a six pack?

[juanluis305]

Hello, I'm very new to body building and want to know as much as i can so have a couple of questions about bulking. The main question would be if it's good if you want a six pack? would'nt bulking make you a little fat and hide you're six pack? also what good bulking meals do you suggest ( that don't involve eggs or milk )

Thanks in advance for you're advice!!!

[MikeK46]

Bulking can increase the size of your abdominal muscles, but then you have to cut to actually see them.

There is no such thing bulking or cutting foods.

Bulking = eating more calories than you burn
Cutting = eating fewer calories than you burn.

Your food selections are irrelevant. Hit your macros and eat mostly minimally processed food.

[videophile88]

Keep it old school. Skip the bulking stage and just eat clean all the time and do cardio between your workout days. Then you can have a six pack all the time! Came across some tests that showed cardio does NOT burn muscle. So do not worry! Diet = 30% protein / 70% carbs (complex carbs preferably paired with plenty of fiber for slow digestion!)

[Lvisaa2]

Keep it old school. Skip the bulking stage and just eat clean all the time and do cardio between your workout days. Then you can have a six pack all the time! I've done a lot of research lately and came across some tests that showed cardio does NOT burn muscle. So do not worry! Diet = 30% protein / 70% carbs (complex carbs preferably paired with plenty of fiber for slow digestion!)

This is awful advice. You told him to construct a diet that doesn't include an ESSENTIAL macronutrient.

[ko300zx]

Keep it old school. Skip the bulking stage and just eat clean all the time and do cardio between your workout days. Then you can have a six pack all the time! I've done a lot of research lately and came across some tests that showed cardio does NOT burn muscle. So do not worry! Diet = 30% protein / 70% carbs (complex carbs preferably paired with plenty of fiber for slow digestion!)

WTF have you been researching?

[videophile88]

WTF have you been researching?

Complete Food and Nutrition by the American Dietetic Association/MuscleMag Bodybuilding encyclopedia/Arnolds Encyclopedia/Strength Training Anatomy some magazines and tons of online articles to name a few. And I can't remember who performed the study but they monitored several runners for a total of 3000 miles and discovered they only lost a little over 2 pounds of muscle. Even more interesting they only lost the muscle in there legs. This is most likely due to "over training" of the legs.

[videophile88]

This is awful advice. You told him to construct a diet that doesn't include an ESSENTIAL macronutrient.

I was generalizing *******. I'm not gonna write him a whole ****in book on what to eat...unless he asks really nicely. Here you go d1ck:

Breakfast:
Omega3/6/9 Supp
BCAA Supp
Multi

2 eggs
milk
OJ
Whey
2 slices of wheat bread

Lunch:
Peanut Butter or tuna
fruit
2 slices wheat bread
milk

Dinner:
6-12oz steak/chicken/fish
various veggies
milk

Snacks:
Nuts
Yogurt
Cheese
etc.

Essential Fatty Acids, complete proteins supplemented with branch chain amino acids for protein synthesis, plenty of carbs for energy and protein for rebuilding muscle.

[SoulZeppelin]

I was generalizing *******. I'm not gonna write him a whole ****in book on what to eat...unless he asks really nicely.

You advised that he eat a diet that is entirely devoid of dietary fat. That's not generalization, that is poor, stupid & dangerous advice. No one asked you to design a diet, but recommending meeting minimum protein & dietary fat levels seems pretty simple.

Diet = 30% protein / 70% carbs

Edit: nice ninja edit with the copypasta diet. At least there is some fat in it.

OP: read the stickies - especially "calculating.macronutrient & calorie needs". Get a good TDEE estimate, adjust to gain/lost weight by altering energy balance & eat a diet consisting of mostly whole foods that you enjoy. Hit calories. Meet/exceed protein & fat minima. Profit. Bulk to add muscle mass & you'll gain some fat too. Meh. Cut it later. Lift heavy.

[ko300zx]

Complete Food and Nutrition by the American Dietetic Association/MuscleMag Bodybuilding encyclopedia/Arnolds Encyclopedia/Strength Training Anatomy some magazines and tons of online articles to name a few. And I can't remember who performed the study but they monitored several runners for a total of 3000 miles and discovered they only lost a little over 2 pounds of muscle. Even more interesting they only lost the muscle in there legs. This is most likely due to "over training" of the legs.

I was generalizing *******. I'm not gonna write him a whole ****in book on what to eat...unless he asks really nicely. Here you go d1ck:

Essential Fatty Acids, complete proteins supplemented with popular branch chain amino acids for protein synthesis, plenty of carbs for energy and protein for rebuilding muscle.

Just stop posting. You have been reading garbage. Spend some time here learning the basics then you can consider giving advice.

[axxlef]

I was generalizing *******. I'm not gonna write him a whole ****in book on what to eat...unless he asks really nicely. Here you go d1ck:

Breakfast:
Omega3/6/9 Supp
BCAA Supp
Multi

2 eggs
milk
OJ
Whey
2 slices of wheat bread

Lunch:
Peanut Butter or tuna
fruit
2 slices wheat bread
milk

Dinner:
6-12oz steak/chicken/fish
various veggies
milk

Snacks:
Nuts
Yogurt
Cheese
etc.

Essential Fatty Acids, complete proteins supplemented with branch chain amino acids for protein synthesis, plenty of carbs for energy and protein for rebuilding muscle.

Also he specifically said no milk or egss so you suggest he drinks milk every meal and has eggs for breakfast.Probably best to actually read the question you are being asked.

[videophile88]

Just stop posting. You have been reading garbage. Spend some time here learning the basics then you can consider giving advice.

Advice...like from you? What a ****in puss...read a ****in book dumbass. Youd rather listen to a d1ck like yourself instead of someone with a PhD?

[videophile88]

Also he specifically said no milk or egss so you suggest he drinks milk every meal and has eggs for breakfast.Probably best to actually read the question you are being asked.

Then he can replace it with something else with protein. YOU DUMB ****!

[ko300zx]

Advice...like from you? What a ****in puss...read a ****in book dumbass. Youd rather listen to a d1ck like yourself instead of someone with a PhD?

The writer's for Meathead Magazine don't have PHDs in anything.

[videophile88]

You advised that he eat a diet that is entirely devoid of dietary fat. That's not generalization, that is poor, stupid & dangerous advice. No one asked you to design a diet, but recommending meeting minimum protein & dietary fat levels seems pretty simple.



Edit: nice ninja edit with the copypasta diet. At least there is some fat in it.

OP: read the stickies - especially "calculating.macronutrient & calorie needs". Get a good TDEE estimate, adjust to gain/lost weight by altering energy balance & eat a diet consisting of mostly whole foods that you enjoy. Hit calories. Meet/exceed protein & fat minima. Profit. Bulk to add muscle mass & you'll gain some fat too. Meh. Cut it later. Lift heavy.

You you stupid f*ck are retarded. The steak/fish peanut butter and milk contains plenty of fats. I hope I get banned...you guys are a bunch of dumb f**ks

[videophile88]

The writer's for Meathead Magazine don't have PHDs in anything.

I just saw your picture...you look like complete ass...try again

[ko300zx]

You you stupid f*ck are retarded. The steak/fish peanut butter and milk contains plenty of fats. I hope I get banned...you guys are a bunch of dumb f**ks

So if those food contains fat, how can 100% of your daily macronutrients come from only protein (30%) and carbs (70%)?

I just saw your picture...you look like complete ass...try again

Why you so mad tho?

[QFam]

Bulking can increase the size of your abdominal muscles, but then you have to cut to actually see them.

There is no such thing bulking or cutting foods.

Bulking = eating more calories than you burn
Cutting = eating fewer calories than you burn.

Your food selections are irrelevant. Hit your macros and eat mostly minimally processed food.

this

[SoulZeppelin]

You you stupid f*ck are retarded. The steak/fish peanut butter and milk contains plenty of fats. I hope I get banned...you guys are a bunch of dumb f**ks

Wasn't there before you ninja edited a copypasta bro diet.

[kanis999]

SERIOUS ANSWER TO OP:

YES! Bulking is good for a six pack. Your abdominal muscles much reach a certain level of strength and size in order to look sexy. If you drop to 8% bodyfat before you do this, you will have the six pack muscles of a 12 year old boy.

The definition of bulking is subjective. You absolutely must eat at a calories surplus to gain muscle, period. That calorie surplus is what defines a bulk in my subjective opinion. You MUST do this in order to gain muscle. People who hate on bulking either don't realize the necessity of a calorie surplus in order to gain muscle, or they think of 'bulkers' as people who eat everything in sight with no regard to setting a calorie limit. Even while bulking you should aim for a specific calorie target range in order to maximize muscle gains and minimize fat gain (inevitable).

Bulk up with careful calorie balancing for a while to gain some muscle mass and then cut down a to low body fat percentage and you should have a nice six pack. This will probably take upwards of one year to accomplish.

[axxlef]

Then he can replace it with something else with protein. YOU DUMB ****!

Also you are right about cardio not being responsible for burning muscle.unless of course it puts you in a serious caloric defecit but using a study on runners who usually do not have a great deal of muscle mass to begin with is hardly conclusive evidence.

[videophile88]

Wasn't there before you ninja edited a copypasta bro diet.

I actually eat that every day...go stick your head in your ass and leave it there until you starve to death

I do like that picture though.

[videophile88]

So if those food contains fat, how can 100% of your daily macronutrients come from only protein (30%) and carbs (70%)?



Why you so mad tho?

Your so stupid...fill in the rest d1ck weed. Your smart you can figure it out. Even bread has fat douche bag. So with those carbs and protein fat will come along with it...plenty of it.

[MAX.MAREK]

Hello, I'm very new to body building and want to know as much as i can so have a couple of questions about bulking. The main question would be if it's good if you want a six pack? would'nt bulking make you a little fat and hide you're six pack? also what good bulking meals do you suggest ( that don't involve eggs or milk )

Thanks in advance for you're advice!!!

everything depends on how much LBM (lean body mass) you have, and how much you develop during your bulking stage. Myself, and many others have no issue on having abs during the bulking/offseason part(s) of ours years.

[tominho7]

Your so stupid...fill in the rest d1ck weed. Your smart you can figure it out. Even bread has fat douche bag. So with those carbs and protein fat will come along with it...plenty of it.

Your knowledge about nutrition is astonishing. Since you know so much, maybe you should consider writinig a book. I will gladly read it......... for the lulz

[juanluis305]

Okay guys thanks for the advice i really do appreciate it!!! but let me see if i can make my situation a little more informative. okay I'm 5 foot 4 and i used to weight 150 pounds then threw a 2,000 calorie diet and working out 3 times a day for about 2-3 hours i managed to get down to 124... my work outs consisted of a lot of sit ups which were about 8 sets of 30-40 and dumbell work outs ( mainly for biceps ) unfortunately i was not able to get my abs cut up like i wanted them to.... I definitely lost the belly i used to have, but still no six pack so what should i do guys?? I'm getting kind of frustrated... so bottom line bulk or no bulk?? and if yes up to how many pounds? Once again thanks for the advice guys and thanks for taking the time to read all this.

( also i drink Whey protein and eat a lot of chicken and steak and consume about 1500 calories a day )