I would appreciate any feedback on what u think my BF is at... I'm scared to find out. probably pretty high. Don't mind the chest hair... After all it is winter time! Here is some background on my situation:
about 5 months ago I weighed 185 lbs at 5'9" tall no idea BF%
I did Adkins diet for 2 months (zero to 20 grams of carbs per day) and dropped down to 170 lbs.
the next 2 months I did the full BSN mass stack and lifted 4 days a week rotating body parts like usual w/ short sets. My max bench only got up to 190! pretty sad!, but I really wanna be cut first, and get rid of these love handles and have a 6-pack... so,,,
for the last 3 weeks I have been on a low fat high protein diet with only healthy carbs and no sugar... I run 45 minutes on treadmill 3-4 times a week and take 6 Lipo-6 tabs a day, 1 multi vitamin, 1 flax seed gel, and 1 fish oil gel. I weigh 166 as of today when these pics were taken. I ultimately want to weigh 175 and 8% body fat. I'm scared that my BF% is like 20%. I have no idea and haven't ever been measured. Please give me some feedback on what I need to do to get where I want! The most I ever weighed was 195, and now I'm 166, but want to replace my fat w/ lean muscle. Cutting is more important to me now, because I have never been cut before! Please leave me some suggestions! I would greatly appreciate it! Thankyou sooooo much!
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11-14-2005, 07:09 AM #1
What is my BF% around? 166 lbs 5'9" ?????
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11-14-2005, 07:34 AM #2
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In your first couple pictures you look around 20-22%. But in those side shots you look a LOT smaller!
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Excellent progress on your weight loss, great numbers. However, DJohnson's post about "people here could call it more accurately than underwater weighing" is very incorrect. Hydrostatic weighing is the standard of body composition assessment. Almost all other techniques to determine body composition are validated against it. If the individual is able to perfrom the test adequately, it is the most accurate technique availible. But again, great progress.
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11-14-2005, 12:19 PM #11
Get an accumeasure caliper and google calculating bf.. Find the site with the calculator. Take the measurements in the 3 areas indicated (chest, thigh, hip) and do your calcs. It is as accurate as the hydro-static method.
I'd say you're 17-20%. I think your LBM will say you need to be around 165 but that's wihtout training.
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11-14-2005, 03:23 PM #15
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Originally Posted by bc_2005
I'll probably get some pics up sometime soon.History: Mar, 2001: 135lbs @ ~14% | Nov, 2004: 245lbs @ ~40% | Dec, 2006: 168lbs @ 5.5%ish | Nov, 2008: 177lbs @ 5.5%ish | Dec, 2016: 179lbs
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11-14-2005, 03:35 PM #16
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Originally Posted by AppleSauce
With bodyfat under 15% after seeing literally hundreds of pictures with bodyfat percentages you can be quite accurate while guessing. Probably within 1% 99/100 times.
For an experienced person seeing clear pics from every hang flexed and unflexed it'd be impossible to error by over 2% when guessing on a person under 15% BF.
Of course it's not gonna say in a textbook that DJohnson's guessing is the gold standard of bodyfat estimation because that just wouldn't be scientific. But really, people are really well off posting your pics for people to guess.
No hard feelings.History: Mar, 2001: 135lbs @ ~14% | Nov, 2004: 245lbs @ ~40% | Dec, 2006: 168lbs @ 5.5%ish | Nov, 2008: 177lbs @ 5.5%ish | Dec, 2016: 179lbs
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11-14-2005, 06:10 PM #18Originally Posted by DJohnson
Thanks for the comment DJohnson, good find on DEXA. I thought it was only used for measuring bone density by measuring the amount of calcium phosphate absorbed by the x-rays. You do have calcium in the cytoplasm and sarcoplasm of a cell but the amount will be hard to detect. Though it has just came on the market as a body composistion device, there hasn't been much exposure of it being used for body composition. Thanks for the info. For MRI, MRI's could one day be used to measure body composition but for now, they cannot. The software needed for the calculations and measurements has not been created. Residual volume is calculated to provide an accurate measurement of the amount of air trapped in the respiratory system once as much air as possible as been exhaled. So the amount of air left in the respiratory system will be accounted for. Bone density is definetly a problem in accumulating accurate results, so specialized equations have been developed for use with people with higher bone density (ex. african-americans). Judging bodyfat % from a picture, i will say with given practice, you could be able to get close to the actual percentage. However, 99/100 times would not happen. There are a few things that could throw off your estimation. The presence of visceral fat would be an issue since some of it cannot be seen when looking at someone. Also, if you cannot determine their body type (Andriod, Gynoid, or Ovoid) the accuracy of your guess will be greatly deminished. People who compete in the World Strongest Man competition have enormous amount of muscle on their body, with very little fat but they dont looked ripped at all. Magnus Samuelsson, at 6'7, 350 pounds has less than 10% bodyfat but would you have been able to guess that? I would have to say no.Last edited by AppleSauce; 11-14-2005 at 06:32 PM.
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I'd get discouraged from putting a pic up here for a bf estimate...people usually guess all over the place.
My guess would be 16-17%, but we all store fat differently in certain places...so it is really hard to get an exact estimateNov 04-fatass @40%bf
Jan 06- buff(apparently) @ ermm i dunno, still have a gut though,
long term goal= jacked @ 7% bf, get the damn abs to show themselves
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11-14-2005, 08:40 PM #29
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Originally Posted by bc_2005
As for the pics, I unfortunately don't have any of me circa 40%, I do have one of me in the low 30s, and I'll wait till im in the single digits with a tan and sixpack before making comparison, so it should be truly awesome.Nov 04-fatass @40%bf
Jan 06- buff(apparently) @ ermm i dunno, still have a gut though,
long term goal= jacked @ 7% bf, get the damn abs to show themselves
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11-15-2005, 01:09 AM #30Originally Posted by bc_2005
I believe the estimates in the thread were high. On that day, my Tanita scale indicated 18.7% (3-day rolling average) and calipers 17.7%; the average of those two is 18.2%. I had some definition that doesn't show well in the pictures.
That would give me a lean mass of ~133 lbs, which is roughly where I have been throughout my five-month cut.
From your pics, I'm guessing you have a bit more lean mass than I do. Your bis and pecs are clearly more visible. So if I guess that you have, say, 140 lbs LBM, at 166 pounds body weight, that puts you at 26/166 = ~15.7%
I don't have before/afters but I will take an updated set soon for posterity.
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