ok guys i need your help......i have gone from basiclly no upper body strength to being able to do about 40 push-ups a min and 6 unassisted pull ups in a row. i really want to make it to 10 (i would love 15) but its almost like my triceps dont want any part of this.....any advice???
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Thread: pull-ups
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09-03-2007, 08:32 AM #1
pull-ups
tap out or pass out!
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09-03-2007, 11:35 AM #2
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09-03-2007, 11:50 AM #3
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09-03-2007, 12:00 PM #4
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09-03-2007, 02:37 PM #5
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09-03-2007, 03:43 PM #6
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Try doing ladders for all your pullup/chin work.
Example for someone with a 6rm:
Do 1 pullup, rest 5-10 sec, do 2 pullups, rest 15-20 seconds, do 3 pullups, rest 20-25 seconds, do 4 pullups rest 30 seconds. Start back with 1 rep and go back up the ladder. One time up the ladder in this case is 10 reps. So if you do 2 ladders you have completed 20 pullups, which is more than you could probably do otherwise.
These are really fun if you have a partner. The only time you rest is while your partner is on the bar doing a pullup, as soon as they get off the bar you get on it and do your reps. The cycle repeats while you add 1 rep each time. If you do not have a partner just imagine how long it would take for them to do the desired number of reps (I was trying to guess how long it would take someone to complete a set with the times I listed above). Stay away from failure on the first few times up the ladder as you do not want to kill yourself so your next set stinks. You may find it easier to do 3 ladders up to 3 reps each time (18 reps) vs 2 ladders up to 4 (20 reps).
I preach pullups to everyone, especially girls...just ask my sister- Ashlae. Maybe she will chime in.
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09-03-2007, 03:45 PM #7
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09-03-2007, 04:02 PM #8
i understand that multiple muscle groups are involved in doing pull-ups, but your triceps actually do most of the work.....depending on how your hands are positioned on the bar....mine face palm out instead of palm in resulting in my triceps doin most of the work.....you can have great biceps (brachii and brachioradialis) and deltoids, but without that power from your triceps brachii....you arent going anywhere...
tap out or pass out!
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09-03-2007, 06:23 PM #9
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Ummm...I can do 40+ chins and 30+ pullups and don't have this tricep problem you are having. Your back takes the brunt of the work, followed by bi's and then some by shoulders/traps. Changing grips can result in the bi's coming into play more or less. I've never heard of the tris taking any of the work while doing a pullup. Are you doing these directly after pushups?
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09-04-2007, 09:22 AM #10
im NOT having problems,pain,ect... with my triceps, but, given that i have good delts, and a back i was assuming that it was my tris givin me problems...also, your back only does so much work when doing pull-ups, after u get past a certain degree mark, its your delts and arm muscles doing most of the work
tap out or pass out!
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09-04-2007, 09:29 AM #11
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Try this program: http://people.bu.edu/timwalsh/reconron.html
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09-04-2007, 12:35 PM #12
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09-04-2007, 01:16 PM #13
Brilliant!
I'm in pretty much the same boat - I always reach failure at 7, when I'm gunning for 10. I'm definitely trying this one. But I don't think my triceps are in the equation - I do pullups/chinups as a warmup on back day.
Also like the weighted idea.
I'll be keeping an eye on this thread ... great question!
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09-05-2007, 03:41 PM #14
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09-06-2007, 06:06 PM #15
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09-07-2007, 08:23 AM #16
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09-27-2007, 12:40 PM #17
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09-28-2007, 12:13 AM #18
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09-30-2007, 08:05 AM #19
I don't know what kind of pullup you are doing or what parallel universe you workout in, but your triceps aren't going to tire first doing pullups.
Anyway, the fastest way to do more pullups is to make your bodyweight feel lighter. The only way to do that fast is to add a heavy weight vest or strap weights to a lifting belt and do set after set of negatives and holds. Try to add at least 50lbs or more. After a couple of weeks of those, your own bodyweight will feel like a feather in the wind.
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10-02-2007, 05:25 AM #20
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10-02-2007, 05:49 AM #21
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10-02-2007, 08:04 AM #22
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Unless you add weight, pullups are an exercise that you don't pyramid. I generally like to pyramid as it warms up the muscles and preps the mind. You can replicate pull-up-like movements with the lat pull-down set-up. Just use a closer grip on the lat bar or a push-down bar. Of course you're pulling the weight down as opposed to pulling yourself up, but it's the same movement.
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10-10-2007, 01:53 PM #23
Thanks for the polite response......anyway I did what u suggested and now I can breeze through 20 pull-ups no problem....I'm hoping as my body weight goes down, the sets 'n reps will go up....we'll see. I'm taking a slight break right now cuz I'm training up for a match in nov and dec, so most of my time right now is being spent on bag work and sparring......tap out or pass out!
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