A Video OF Me Doing Squats. Am I Doing it Wrong? 6'7'' perspective.

[zeddo]

Yo dude, i don't have time to go through this whole thread atm, but i watched part of your squat vid, and i think you have a similar (flexibility) problem to me. My dad fixed this problem for me, and this is how. He got two 5kg weight plates (whats that, like 12 lbs? just get a similar sized weight plate) and put one under each of my heels. Only under your heels. Try squatting like that. With that, I could squat much lower without tipping my back foward, with proper form. It may or may not fix your issue depending on whether your problem is the same as mine, but it can't hurt to take 2 mins to try it out. Lemme know how it goes.

[Roniboney]

I think that you could learn how to squat but wow are your legs long.If your adamant about going atg drop the weight off the bar.Use just the bar and work on going atg and work on using the links provided on page 1 to help nail the form.

Realistically I don't think you should squat but thats just me.I can see some really horrible injury happenning but maybe you'll be lucky and won't get one.
If I were you I would just use leg press and work on placing my feet at different angles to put more emphasis on the hams,quads and glutes and work with high reps.Legs are endurance muscles and work very well with high reps.

[chazzy1864]

Yo dude, i don't have time to go through this whole thread atm, but i watched part of your squat vid, and i think you have a similar (flexibility) problem to me. My dad fixed this problem for me, and this is how. He got two 5kg weight plates (whats that, like 12 lbs? just get a similar sized weight plate) and put one under each of my heels. Only under your heels. Try squatting like that. With that, I could squat much lower without tipping my back foward, with proper form. It may or may not fix your issue depending on whether your problem is the same as mine, but it can't hurt to take 2 mins to try it out. Lemme know how it goes.

That is a patch, not a fix.

You should still look to improving your flexibility.

[JRT6]

What is you opinion on post 38 of this thread?

Also it's not just height, it's height, flexibility, and proportions.

Can he squat? Sure
Can he get better results using a another exercise? In his case, many of us think so
Can he improve his current squat? Well he can't change his height or his proportions but can definitely change his flexibility, so yes.

If his #1 goal is to improve his squat, I think everyone in this thread his here to help.
If his #1 goal is to size/strength of lower body, it's important to point out alternatives. Pointing out alternatives does not = can't.

Counter what? All the arguments saying not to squat are backed up by nothing by conjecture and bro science. Some 20 year old with no listed qualifications saying "you will get hurt" is not an argument. FWIW Mark Ripptoe has a very principled argument on why tall guys shouldn't squat below parallel when they lack the flexibility. But Ripptoe would scoff at saying anyone should leg press instead. Want to squat deep? Fix the problem, don't listen to a 20 year old exspurt on a forum board.

[ZoranM]

Counter what? All the arguments saying not to squat are backed up by nothing by conjecture and bro science. Some 20 year old with no listed qualifications saying "you will get hurt" is not an argument. FWIW Mark Ripptoe has a very principled argument on why tall guys shouldn't squat below parallel when they lack the flexibility. But Ripptoe would scoff at saying anyone should leg press instead. Want to squat deep? Fix the problem, don't listen to a 20 year old exspurt on a forum board.

Noone said injury is 100 % certain.
You don't know my age or qualifications.

You are missing the point.

Would you rather try fixing the problem that may not even be fixable, or spend time fixing it which on it's own requires more time spent along with the morphology issue(if it's not JUST a "flexibility" matter), rather than getting results much faster, easier and safer?


Ripptoe would scoff... Seriously, who gives a d*mn about hypothetical statements from a close minded strength coach. His book starts with "physical strength is the most important thing in the world".


He is wrong at the start. It is clearly Love.

[JRT6]

Funny how you thought my comment was directed at you but hey if the **** sticks. Ripptoe is someone with a pedigree regardless of whether you agree with him. He has a rationed take and expertise in the field, basically cred. You have a screen name and knee jerk defensiveness.

You're not even tall so you can't even have a take based on personal experience.

Ninethousand posted an article by Bill Starr. I suppose you think Starr is a nobody talking out of his ass too.

[ZoranM]

Why wouldn't I think the comment was directed at me? Orlando asked you about post #38, which I made.

And again, me having a screen name and that other thing still doesn't give away my credentials, or lack of credentials.

Always find good things in all situations, that's my motto. Today I found out that Ripptoe(btw, you're misspelling the name), Starr and other knowledgable people have the ability to change their height at will, so all their advice is therefore based on personal experience.

I don't think Starr is a nobody. Lol. You'd be surprised, but I don't think that about Rippetoe either. His cult is another matter.

[JRT6]

Why wouldn't I think the comment was directed at me? Orlando asked you about post #38, which I made.

And again, me having a screen name and that other thing still doesn't give away my credentials, or lack of credentials.

Always find good things in all situations, that's my motto. Today I found out that Ripptoe(btw, you're misspelling the name), Starr and other knowledgable people have the ability to change their height at will, so all their advice is therefore based on personal experience.

I don't think Starr is a nobody. Lol. You'd be surprised, but I don't think that about Rippetoe either. His cult is another matter.

Ok so we agree: that I misspelled Rip's name, eventhough you called him "closed minded" in a sentence that was clearly spasmatic, you don't dislike him and his point really is valid (or isn't TBH I really can't tell), that a generalization I made was focused on you, that you have no cred or you'd have posted it in bold letters and you'er a postive guy eventhough you're telling someone they can't. Got it we're on the same page.

[chazzy1864]

Overall height has litlte to do with ability to easily perform lifts.


Individual limb and torso dimensions/proportions effect it far more.

[JRT6]

[chazzy1864]

That example is terrible to prove any point you had.

That kid has a long torso and isn't even hitting parallel.

[JRT6]

Bull ****. That is parallel and even if it isn't I really don't think one inch is make that kid fail. It only his third time squating and he progressed that far.

Here's my point and you ain't going to like it Bert:

1. Get qualifed coaching.

2. Fix the problem

3. If the problem still exists then maybe another way is in order.

4. Ignore internet experts.

[chazzy1864]

From this angle, there is an upward trend from knee to hip.

Could be angle, but it doesn't look parallel.


I'm not going to like what? That you disagree with Zoran or some of hte others who said he shouldn't be squatting? I don't care what your view or theirs is. It wasn't my view. Their points are very valid. His dimensions suck.

I gave him tips how to try to squat since he is dead set on doing it.

[im2manly]

I am 6'4, you are a chode taller than me, stretching my calves and ankle mobility changed my squatting life. Super srs ♥

[JRT6]

Charles Poliquin on tnation


Q: Is it true that some people just aren't built for squatting, like taller guys?

A: Is it true? Not really. That's a myth, because anybody can squat. But the thing is that, mechanically, some people are better suited for the squat.

In other words, if you have a guy who's 5' 4", 200 pounds with short legs, he's going to be better suited for squatting than a 6' tall, 200 pound guy. It's why you never see top powerlifters who are ectomorphs. Ectomorphs just aren't mechanically built for squatting.

But anybody can squat. One of the reasons tall basketball players "can't" squat is because of poor ankle flexibility. Their sport is really hard on the ankles so they develop a lot of scar tissue in that area. But if you put them on a proper flexibility program, then they can squat like anybody else.

The same is true for squatting depth. Everyone should be able to go deep, regardless of body structure, provided that they're flexible enough to get there. If you can't go deep, work on flexibility, then go deep. Don't blame shallow squatting on your height.

[Orlando1234977]

exspurt on a forum board.

From skimming (so far) the followup posts I find it a little ironic that the same person complaining about 'internet experts' is the same one constantly referring to Coach Rippetoe, Coach Starr and Poliquin lol.. Nothing quite says in the trenches bodybuilding knowledge quite like parroting the webz largest strength coaches that sell books




























































wrong.
pg 378. coach rippetoe clearly says..

[ZoranM]

Ok so we agree: that I misspelled Rip's name, eventhough you called him "closed minded" in a sentence that was clearly spasmatic, you don't dislike him and his point really is valid (or isn't TBH I really can't tell), that a generalization I made was focused on you, that you have no cred or you'd have posted it in bold letters and you'er a postive guy eventhough you're telling someone they can't. Got it we're on the same page.

There is a difference between disliking and disrespecting. My area of weight lifting is not the same as his. When it comes to his comments about bodybuilders, he is close minded, condescending and even rude. And even so, I don't disrespect his work and area.

I have no interest in his points. Or Poliquins. For every coach you quote I'll find you another with a completely different point of view. Your quoting and video posting proves nothing.

Everyone CAN squat. Noone said otherwise. Fixing flexibility may not be the end solution. Problems are likely to not only persist, but get worse and slow progress down considerably with this kind of morphology as the weights go up. There are better ways to build thighs with a lot of this people, scoff or no scoff.

Reread post #28 and the question in 65#.

[Marc27Default]

I am just over 6'3" with long femurs and shins and a short torso. I am naturally flexible pretty much everywhere EXCEPT hamstrings. While not being a strong squatter I am capable of going quite deep while keeping an arched back. Shoes are a huge deal, even if you have flexible ankles, it may not be enough to overcome the long leg proportions. I would get a pair of olympic weightlifting shoes, something with a 3/4 inch heel or so. You could try out bodyweight or empty bar reps standing with your heels on a 10lb plate to see the difference. I can't squat anywhere near as deep without the Do-wins I am wearing. Look at the angle of my feet relative to my shin and you'll see why you need the flexibility there.

Everyone who mentioned this is right, you don't want to lose the arch in your back, referred to as "butt wink". The deeper you go the more likely your hips will rotate forwards and you'll lose the arch. You need a feel for this and to stop before it happens. This picture is definitely my limit, hip rotation usually starts around here and with heavier weight I don't go quite this deep.

Ankle flexibility is key, shoes will help make up for some of that. Shoes Shoes Shoes!!! And practice with light weight, though you need just enough weight to make the movement feel natural. 95-135 is good practice weight in my opinion, assuming this is less that 50% of your max. The empty bar for me changes the movement too much.