If you guys work out bicep/tricep the same day...
which one do you guys workout first...
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Thread: biceps or triceps first?
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09-25-2002, 12:01 AM #1
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09-25-2002, 05:15 AM #2
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Re: biceps or triceps first?
Originally posted by IMPQ
If you guys work out bicep/tricep the same day...
which one do you guys workout first...
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09-25-2002, 07:48 AM #3
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09-25-2002, 08:43 AM #4
Re: biceps or triceps first?
Originally posted by IMPQ
If you guys work out bicep/tricep the same day...
which one do you guys workout first...never quit, no excuses
Excuses are just polite falsehoods for slackers
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09-25-2002, 08:47 AM #5
Triceps is 3/4 the mass of your upper arm. Biceps is 1/4.
which one would you give priority to?
Biceps do tire faster, it's a smaller muscle.
Always work the larger muscles groups first.
Work chest before triceps, back before bi's, uppe arms before lower arms, etc."The difference between the champion and the challenger is that the champion ALWAYS gets up before the count of 10" -- Me
""Many individuals may be training hard but they aren't training smart. This is especially true of those who don't properly balance their training program with an equal amount of pushing and pulling movements and an emphasis on total-body development." "Maximum" Bob Whelan
"Time and I against any other two."
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09-25-2002, 08:53 AM #6
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09-25-2002, 09:14 AM #7
either way, triceps makes up the bulk of the mass. of the upper arm....it probably is better to work tris first..since they r the larger muscle group. i just like to mix it up and not stay same order all the time. what kind of routine do any of you do for bis/tris?
never quit, no excuses
Excuses are just polite falsehoods for slackers
Apply your heart to instruction and your ears to words of knowledge.
Proverbs 23:12
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly, love mercy and walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8
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09-25-2002, 09:45 AM #8
"it's 1/3 biceps and 2/3 triceps"
says who? show me an advanced text that says so, and cite me no less than 53.432 studies that say it's not 3/4 and 1/4!!! LMAO!
I forget if the triceps is 3/4 or 2/3, I guess it depends how big your triceps are and how small your biceps for. For me (unfortunately), it porobably is 3/4 even though it's s'posed to be 2/3. Heh heh.
I always appreciate a smart-ass remark."The difference between the champion and the challenger is that the champion ALWAYS gets up before the count of 10" -- Me
""Many individuals may be training hard but they aren't training smart. This is especially true of those who don't properly balance their training program with an equal amount of pushing and pulling movements and an emphasis on total-body development." "Maximum" Bob Whelan
"Time and I against any other two."
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09-25-2002, 10:56 AM #9Originally posted by msclbldrguy
what kind of routine do any of you do for bis/tris?
My current routine is Bi's -
Straight Curl Bar
Seated alternate DB curl
one arm DB precher curl
Rope hammer curl
Tri's
Skull Crusher
close grip bench
cable press downs or / rope
dips (most of the time my tri's are already to tired though)
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09-25-2002, 10:58 AM #10Originally posted by MrB
"it's 1/3 biceps and 2/3 triceps"
says who? show me an advanced text that says so, and cite me no less than 53.432 studies that say it's not 3/4 and 1/4!!! LMAO!
I forget if the triceps is 3/4 or 2/3, I guess it depends how big your triceps are and how small your biceps for. For me (unfortunately), it porobably is 3/4 even though it's s'posed to be 2/3. Heh heh.
I always appreciate a smart-ass remark.
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09-25-2002, 11:45 AM #11Originally posted by IMPQ
let me know what you guys think
My current routine is Bi's -
Straight Curl Bar
Seated alternate DB curl
one arm DB precher curl
Rope hammer curl
Tri's
Skull Crusher
close grip bench
cable press downs or / rope
dips (most of the time my tri's are already to tired though)never quit, no excuses
Excuses are just polite falsehoods for slackers
Apply your heart to instruction and your ears to words of knowledge.
Proverbs 23:12
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly, love mercy and walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8
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09-25-2002, 12:03 PM #12
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09-25-2002, 06:14 PM #13
I would recomend doing biceps first
because (for me) it's harder to keep form good on biceps then on triceps
so I'd do bi's before tri's regaurdless of comparitive size
btw my bicep is probubly 1/2 arm size whereas my tricep is the other 1/2
at least that's how it seems
it might be different it's hard to tell I can't see the back of my arm!!
also if your going for look think about it
when you flex your bi it 'stands up' more then your tri
well most people I know work that way anyway
also my tricep is up higher then my bicep, proportionally
this may make me odd I dunno
I mean there is tricep accross from my bi of course but the bigger part of my tri is up above where my bi is
is this rare or norm
thanks
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09-26-2002, 02:00 PM #14
Tri's first! Because if ure doing Bi's first and doing them right the pump will interfere with properly contracting the triceps. And besides the tricep is bigger and requires more energy, whats more tiring close grip bench or curls?
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09-26-2002, 02:28 PM #15
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Just for a change of pace (and an exhausting workout), superset bi/tri/bi/tri/bi/tri, etc.
Think about moving dips to chest day; if you want dips for triceps, do behind-the-back (bench) dips, like these:
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...tBenchDip.html
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09-26-2002, 10:35 PM #16
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09-27-2002, 06:54 AM #17
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09-27-2002, 11:34 AM #18
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09-27-2002, 11:36 AM #19
Another thought...
Triceps make up 2/3 of your upper arm mass, so you have the biggest potential to see mass gains there. Blast em first! Anyway, Triceps and Biceps are two completely different ranges of motion, so one shouldn't get tired out from doing the other.Currently bulking...goal 3lbs+ increase every month.
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09-27-2002, 01:00 PM #20
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09-27-2002, 01:39 PM #21
The % and ratio of the upper arm is based on weight of the muscles (in pounds or kilograms), not # of heads or # of muscles that make up the groups. In other words the triceps account for 2/3 of the upper arms mass (weight).
You have 2 legs and you have 2 arms. That doesn't mean they're the same size. Right? Actually, for people that don't squat that might be true.
An antagonistic superset (a superset that combines muscles that have exact oppsote functions, but work together, such as tricep/bicep is a very effective way to train. When you are directly training one muscle, the other works indirectly (when lowering the weight) and recovers faster.
This alsow orks with back and chest, etc."The difference between the champion and the challenger is that the champion ALWAYS gets up before the count of 10" -- Me
""Many individuals may be training hard but they aren't training smart. This is especially true of those who don't properly balance their training program with an equal amount of pushing and pulling movements and an emphasis on total-body development." "Maximum" Bob Whelan
"Time and I against any other two."
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09-27-2002, 02:04 PM #22
Mr.B-
The ratio is set- its 3/5. You can't change that unless you have muscles removed.
The % of tri to bi is wholly determined by physical make-up. I don't see how you can say my triceps are 2/3 of my upper arm mass. I can see where generally, that might be true.
I was real careful in my verbiage- only stating that triceps represent 3 out of 5 muscles. Period. That's a fact.
I think we're sorta saying the same things, from a different perspective.
Happy lifting..
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09-27-2002, 02:31 PM #23Originally posted by Carnutzzz
Mr.B-
The ratio is set- its 3/5. You can't change that unless you have muscles removed.
The % of tri to bi is wholly determined by physical make-up. I don't see how you can say my triceps are 2/3 of my upper arm mass. I can see where generally, that might be true.
I was real careful in my verbiage- only stating that triceps represent 3 out of 5 muscles. Period. That's a fact.
I think we're sorta saying the same things, from a different perspective.
Happy lifting..
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09-27-2002, 04:52 PM #24
I didn't mean to start this huge debate over tricep and bicep percentages lol. I was just saying that you will benefit more from training the Triceps first and with the most intensity since it is a larger muscle group. Everyone was right in their own way though. Peace out everyone.
Currently bulking...goal 3lbs+ increase every month.
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09-27-2002, 11:30 PM #25
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