Yea, thats how it went down. Muhammed just created islam so it would give him justification for visciously killing and plundering around the middle east. I heard that many times also.Originally Posted by M@chin@
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05-22-2005, 04:07 PM #31
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05-22-2005, 05:27 PM #32
Haven't read the entire thread but the israeli-palestinian conflict actually has nothing to do with religion. Each religion does not care about the other. In fact Islam respects jews because Jews are also monotheistic and follow many similar laws to the muslims, Ie, hallal and Kashrut. The israeli palestinian conflict is really a conflict of political nationalism, and religion is being used to back both sides. religion should remain completely separate in that the palestinian plight has little to do with Islam or Israeli oppression of Islam, and the Jewish state was not based on Judaism merely as a place for Jews to live, it is not based on any religious values and is a secular state. Religion is being used to encourage and justify extremism and violence where discussion needs to be focussed on politics .
Three important quotes to live by:
"Go hard or go home"- Unknown
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." - Gandhi
"Don't eat the yellow snow"- Frank Zappa
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05-22-2005, 06:12 PM #33Originally Posted by Canadian Nanook
You always make senseAnd David said, "The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine." And Saul said to David, "Go, and may the Lord be with you." (1 Samuel 17:37)
Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand. (1 Samuel 17:50)
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05-22-2005, 06:23 PM #34Originally Posted by Canadian Nanook
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05-23-2005, 08:14 AM #35Originally Posted by playa hata
Have you actually read anything from the Koran?
For many centuries, Muslims were better to the Jews than the chrisitians were. Islam, in the koran says that Jews and christians should be held in a higher light and should be protected because we all believe in one god and are descendants of Abraham. Assuming that Islam as a religion is against Jews and christians based on the actions of a select few extreme muslims, is moronic and down right prejudice. I would like to hear Syrian kid elaborate on this though because i am not learned enough in the Koran to fully explain.Three important quotes to live by:
"Go hard or go home"- Unknown
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." - Gandhi
"Don't eat the yellow snow"- Frank Zappa
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05-23-2005, 09:29 AM #36Originally Posted by playa hata
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05-23-2005, 09:52 AM #37
this is not new news ... .they have been fighting over the same BS for how many years?
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05-23-2005, 02:38 PM #38Originally Posted by DanMc
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05-23-2005, 02:44 PM #39Originally Posted by Aaron_01
I had no clue
can you give me some examplesAnd David said, "The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine." And Saul said to David, "Go, and may the Lord be with you." (1 Samuel 17:37)
Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand. (1 Samuel 17:50)
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05-23-2005, 02:48 PM #40Originally Posted by Aaron_01
It was after 1945, that the US actualy started paying attention to the middle east.
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05-23-2005, 05:47 PM #41Originally Posted by Dave22reborn
Have you ever heard of the Huks from the Philippines? Or the Juramentados who went around killing as many Christians they could find in Southern Philippines.
The latter was also one of the main reasons the US switched from .38 to .45 for standard sidearm caliber. The .38s wouldn't drop them and a lot of Americans were losing limbs from the Juramentado's Kris.Last edited by Aaron_01; 05-23-2005 at 05:49 PM.
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05-23-2005, 07:42 PM #42Originally Posted by Canadian Nanook
easy there
some parts of the muslim world it might be true
other parts very untrue,
it also depands on the historical time
muslims were at times kind to jews other time murdering them by the 10000's
so you should frame this statment very carefully .\
Arabs sometimes claim that, as "Semites," they cannot possibly be anti-Semitic. This, however, is a semantic distortion that ignores the reality of Arab discrimination and hostility toward Jews. Arabs, like any other people, can indeed be anti-Semitic.
The term "anti-Semite" was coined in Germany in 1879 by Wilhelm Marrih to refer to the anti-Jewish manifestations of the period and to give Jew-hatred a more scientific sounding name.(1) "Anti-Semitism" has been accepted and understood to mean hatred of the Jewish people.
While Jewish communities in Arab and Islamic countries fared better overall than those in Christian lands in Europe, Jews were no strangers to persecution and humiliation among the Arabs and Muslim. As Princeton University historian Bernard Lewis has written: "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam."(2)
Muhammad, the founder of Islam, traveled to Medina in 622 A.D. to attract followers to his new faith. When the Jews of Medina refused to convert and rejected Muhammad, two of the major Jewish tribes were expelled; in 627, Muhammad's followers killed between 600 and 900 of the men, and divided the surviving Jewish women and children amongst themselves.(3)
The Muslim attitude toward Jews is reflected in various verses throughout the Koran, the holy book of the Islamic faith. "They [the Children of Israel] were consigned to humiliation and wretchedness. They brought the wrath of God upon themselves, and this because they used to deny God's signs and kill His Prophets unjustly and because they disobeyed and were transgressors" (Sura 2:61). According to the Koran, the Jews try to introduce corruption (5:64), have always been disobedient (5:78), and are enemies of Allah, the Prophet and the angels (2:97*98)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...nds_(gen).html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...rabjewtoc.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_Judaism
read this
before making any
statmentsHe who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.
Albert Einstein
All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible.
Thomas E. Lawrence
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05-24-2005, 05:17 PM #43
I am Jewish if you did not know.
I never said there was no persecution I was pointing out that many places under muslim rule were much better to the Jews than the Christian rulers were. For example, Muslim spain was better to the Jews than christian spain was. Also, throughout the muslim empire, Jews were able to rise in ranks, many sultans had Jews for doctors and advisors whereas it would be forbidden in Christian kingdoms. According specifically to the Koran, Jews are monotheists and should not be harmed. Most of the extreme hate against Judaism comes specifically from extremists and it is not based on factual religious doctrine.Three important quotes to live by:
"Go hard or go home"- Unknown
"Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever." - Gandhi
"Don't eat the yellow snow"- Frank Zappa
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05-24-2005, 07:20 PM #44Originally Posted by Canadian Nanook
Keep making threads like this, they are good for entertainment value.
The trees and the rocks say "Oh Moslem, come kill this Jew, he is hiding behind me" is a lovable little paraphrase, from Islamic lore. Israeli oppression? Israel has had to fight 5 wars against 22 Arab psychotic dictatorships. The land they are "occupying" was captured in war initiated by Arabs.
Keep doing this Nanook, keep tricking yourself.
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05-25-2005, 11:10 PM #45Originally Posted by PowerSwede
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05-25-2005, 11:42 PM #46Originally Posted by playa hata
Every religion has their fair share of fantatical idiots, Islam is no exception.
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05-25-2005, 11:58 PM #47
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05-26-2005, 12:04 AM #48Originally Posted by Renegade Master
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05-26-2005, 12:08 AM #49
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05-26-2005, 12:09 AM #50Originally Posted by Renegade Master
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05-26-2005, 12:19 AM #51
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Originally Posted by PowerSwede
Rejection of his church is a rejection of Jesus Christ himself.
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05-26-2005, 12:22 AM #52
thanks powerswede
I don't bother though.
It's pointless talking to a wallAnd David said, "The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and from the paw of the bear, He will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine." And Saul said to David, "Go, and may the Lord be with you." (1 Samuel 17:37)
Thus David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and a stone, and he struck the Philistine and killed him; but there was no sword in David’s hand. (1 Samuel 17:50)
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05-26-2005, 12:27 AM #53Originally Posted by Renegade Master
I hope you don't fall off your high horse pureblood, the fall would kill you.
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05-26-2005, 12:28 AM #54Originally Posted by TranceNRG
Actually i'm just making fun of him.
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05-26-2005, 01:22 AM #55Originally Posted by Renegade Master
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05-26-2005, 01:27 AM #56
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Originally Posted by deeyala
Islam+Christians+Jews against Renegade Master!!!
jk jk lolNSCA-CPT.
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05-26-2005, 01:29 AM #57Originally Posted by Renegade Master
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05-26-2005, 01:29 AM #58Originally Posted by KhanPaulsen
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05-26-2005, 01:31 AM #59
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Originally Posted by PowerSwede
World Against Renegade Master
Even the Dalai Lama (Check the spelling, I KNOW that is wrong, someone please fix it) is against THAT. :-pNSCA-CPT.
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05-26-2005, 04:08 AM #60
It is a racist message, but it is true. Only a small portion of jews are corrupt and pure evil just like any other human category.
The jews' zionist movement did provoke Hitler and caused WW2.
There is even evidence that 9/11 happened because the jews wanted it to happen. Who benifited the most of 9/11? If you find that, you will find the real criminals.
Has anybody seen this good news site?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
I've been going there for over 2 years now and its 85% correct. The propaganda american media comes in late with the truth. This site tells the news you would hear on media channels 2 months later, if even at all.
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