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Thread: IDS making another mass tabs run
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05-14-2009, 08:59 PM #781
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05-14-2009, 09:38 PM #782
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05-14-2009, 09:51 PM #783
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05-14-2009, 09:55 PM #784
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05-15-2009, 11:14 AM #785
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05-15-2009, 11:15 AM #786
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05-15-2009, 11:36 AM #787
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05-15-2009, 03:10 PM #788
What's MethylSten?
Yes, a clone of MethylSten would be a #1 seller, but.. what's MethylSten?
I thought MethylSten was 1-ene SD, but I've read in previous post in this thread that this can't be, becouse its imposible to have a 1-ene in a 2a-methyl (SD is 2a,17a-dimethyl, so it can't have a 1-ene)
So, what's MethylSten?
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05-15-2009, 10:03 PM #789
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05-15-2009, 11:00 PM #790
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You can't have stereochemistry at the 2-position; therefore calling it 2a-methyl is incorrect. Methyl sten is the 1-ene derivative of SD, so the proper name for you bros would be 17b-hydroxy-2,17a-dimethyl-1-ene-5a-androstan-3-one. Or 17b-hydroxy-2,17a-dimethyl-1-ene-etiocholan-3-one. Those letters next to the numbers a or b indicates alpha or beta respectively; alpha means that the group is pointing away from the plane of the main structure in a 2D drawing and beta means that the group is pointing towards you from the plane. If there's an alkene anywhere present, the two carbons which form the alkene become flat due to the hybridization of bonds thus making it impossible to point away or toward you (hence the reason for no such thing as 1-ene-2a-methyl or 1-ene-2b-methyl). It is just flat, making it simply 2-methyl.
Last edited by Beejis60; 05-15-2009 at 11:05 PM.
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05-15-2009, 11:40 PM #791
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05-15-2009, 11:50 PM #792
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05-16-2009, 12:00 AM #793
There's a few suppliers out of the states that make it my guess is since no one knows what is really in this stuff completely is the real companies shy away from taking a chance on it.any company that puts out a ph,ds type of product is always one user or chemist away from goin outta business.all you need is for one dumbass to do something stupid with your product and you could be in deep #hit.
Last edited by thauncle; 05-16-2009 at 12:11 AM.
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05-16-2009, 12:24 AM #794
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05-16-2009, 12:26 AM #795
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05-16-2009, 12:48 AM #796
I at one time during this thread was thinking about buying some for use sometime next year so I did some Google,yahoo etc search work back when this thread started up to see if there was anything on this compound that would reveal what it really is by finding the info in another forum somewhere on the net on a page or study or etc and didn't find anything but i happen to fall onto a few supplier websites.when i say no one knows whats in it i mean who knows if its just pure product or if the supplier or ids is spiking it,maybe the supplier is spiking it or maybe ids has a chemist adding something extra who knows what the mystery item Beejis60 couldn't make out is.
Last edited by thauncle; 05-16-2009 at 12:52 AM.
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05-16-2009, 01:11 AM #797
mmm hmmm....
which one was that? www.methylstenraws.com ??
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05-16-2009, 01:19 AM #798
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