Triceps, anatomy related
The triceps muscle has three heads (that's what triceps means) and a common insertion on the olecranon process of the ulna. So are you supposed to different exercises to train the medial, lateral, and long heads of your tris, just like you do with anterior, medial, and rear delts?
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01-08-2009, 10:02 AM #1Registered User
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Triceps, anatomy related
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01-08-2009, 10:05 AM #2Squats traps to grass
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Not a flame, but how can you know enough to ask the question in this way, but not know the answer?
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01-08-2009, 10:07 AM #3
well i would assume one head is always worked, seeing as its the only one at that end
the other ones, apparantly overhead extensions work one more than the other, dips i think work all... I cant remember exactly
i dont think it makes much diff tbh
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01-08-2009, 10:08 AM #4Registered User
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Because they don't teach weightlifting in human anatomy haha. Can't believe I got a D+ in that course....
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01-08-2009, 10:08 AM #5The generalist.
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01-08-2009, 10:10 AM #6Squats traps to grass
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Originally Posted by HandsomeRob9999
Lulz.
Explains a lot of the posts on here, though apparently some people think that taking an A & P course makes one an expert on bodybuilding.
Anyhoo....
Yes, you should train the different aspects of the triceps.CSCS, ACSM cPT.
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01-08-2009, 10:21 AM #7Very tough course...I still don't get the sliding filament theory for muscle contraction....can't wait to take A&P 2 next semester...Originally Posted by HandsomeRob9999
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01-08-2009, 10:27 AM #8The generalist.
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Anatomy and physiology are easy.
Understanding > remembering.
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01-08-2009, 10:37 AM #9AndOriginally Posted by iSkinny
Personal experience > both.
Some of the old skool bodybuilders didn't know necessarily why thinks worked they just knew they did from trial and error.
Hence back to the "can you work inner chest arguments?"
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01-08-2009, 10:38 AM #10Uplift
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01-08-2009, 10:41 AM #11Anti-Catabolic
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Due to the fact that each head has a common insertion point and all serve to extend the forearm at the elbow joint you cannot isolate per se each head. However that's not to say you can position the arm in favor of a specific head. Bottomline, if you're extending the elbow you're working the whole muscle.
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01-08-2009, 12:10 PM #12Registered User
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Thanks for clearing that up, guys. For the record, I had anatomy last semester, about to start human phys this semester. Taking a combined course sounds like an awesome idea but that's not how they do it at JMU I guess.
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01-08-2009, 12:14 PM #13Registered User
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I think it's a valid question. Your typically don't learn in class that simply facing your palm in different directions or tucking or flaring your elbows will focus more on different heads, as HighRevinSi said. I will use 6 or 7 different exercizes during a workout and try to beat the hell out of my tri's (don't try this at home).Originally Posted by HandsomeRob9999
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01-08-2009, 12:54 PM #14Registered User
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There are ways to preferentially target different heads of the triceps (I would have to agree that pure isolation is impossible though). They do have different origins (esp. the long head on the scapula), and so maximal stretch and their mechanical advantage in different motions differ.
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01-08-2009, 01:00 PM #15Anti-Catabolic
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You have Cadaver Lab? Fellow PT student went to James Madison and mentioned the Anatomy course was excellentOriginally Posted by HandsomeRob9999
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01-08-2009, 01:06 PM #16Registered User
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Yeah, the anatomy class is great, I learned a lot, but not enough I guess haha. We had dry (plastinated) cadavers in lab, I guess cause it's more economical. No formaldehyde smell either. It turns muscles to a kind of beef jerky consistency so if you don't know what you're looking at it all kind of blends together.Originally Posted by HighRevinSi
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01-08-2009, 01:28 PM #17Banned
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PM me I feel like I have a solid understanding on it. I used three whiteboards in a lecture hall and drew the whole thing out... on all of them, lol.Originally Posted by Wfly
Regarding OP's question...
Extensions (like overhead DB extensions or overhead rope extensions will hit the long head really well).
Reverse grip pull downs (NOT push downs) should hit your lateral head well.
Not sure on medial head, but someone I'm sure will post a list of exercises that shows a comparison between the many exercises and what head of the triceps are the main focus.
On a side note... I wish my university had real cadavers. We get to dissect cats and sheep brains/eyes instead. Still interesting though, feline anatomy is quite similar to human, albeit different sizes of muscles (not just comparatively, but analogously as well) and a few that cats have that humans don't.
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01-08-2009, 01:52 PM #18The BACKMAN
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