I'm getting 307g protein a day...too much?

[damo1972]

Hi Guys,
I've been trying to grow some more lean muscle for a while but am struggling and I think it's to do with my diet so I'm wondering if someone can help me tweak it.
A bit of background about me.........I'm 36, 5"9', 180 lbs (82kgs) about 12% body fat.
I've been at those stats for a couple of months now after moving up from 160 lbs at about the same % body fat. Things wored well at first!
The fat is coming down now as I've just given up alcohol. I used to do 10 - 15 bottles of beer on a Saturday night....nothing to be proud of I know, especially at my age!!!
As far as my workouts go I do 5 days a week for about 45 mins in my lunch hour. Not done any cardio at all for about 6 months. I've only just started taking celltech too.
Here's what I'm currently eating:

Breakfast
1 bowl museli with skimmed milk (8g protein, 35g carbs, 210 cals)
1 CNP Pro-mass shake (35g protein, 53g carbs, 394 cals)

Mid-morning
1 CNP Pro MR meal replacement shake (42g protein, 19g carbs, 270g cals)
100g malt loaf (7g protein, 67g carbs, 314 cals)

Lunch before training
200g Chicken breast (56g protein, 0g carbs, 270 cals)
35g wholegrain brown rice (3g protein, 27g carbs, 132 cals)
120g vegetables

After training
1 Celltech hardcore creatine drink (0g protein, 75g carbs, 310 cals)
1 CNP Pro-mass shake (35g protein, 53g carbs, 394 cals)
1 CNP Pro-Flapjack bar (19g protein, 37g carbs, 287 cals)

Early evening
1 Can Tuna (35g protein, 0g carbs, 130 cals)
35g wholegrain brown rice (3g protein, 27g carbs, 132 cals)
1 Small salad

Evening
1 Rump steak or Fish (61g protein, 0g carbs, 315 cals)
250g sweet potato (3g protein, 53g carbs, 232 cals)

That's pretty much it, with maybe a bit of variation for the evening meal so I don't get too bored!
I thought it was pretty good until I decided to take a look at the protein/carbs/calories count and I think they're way off.
After looking at the nutritional information on everything I eat, it turns out I'm getting:

307 grams protein
446 grams carbs
3390 calories.

My target weight would be around 200lbs with around 6 - 7% body fat.
I think my protein intake is far too much but what should I do? Should I drop one of my Pro-mass drinks for a carb drink?
Are my calories ok or are they too low or too high?
Or is the diet ok? Now I've stopped alcohol my body fat is already coming down but will that also mean my muscles will start to grow again?
As you've probably guessed I'm crap on nutrition, so any help you can give would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks guys!!!!

[-Aaron-]

[cmbc]

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=...damage+kidneys

Too much protein can hurt people with existing kidney problems.. people on an internet message board aren't going to be able to diagnose and tell you whether the amount you're eating is too much for you, though. If you're concerned, a doc can test your piss for an existing condition. good luck,

[MuscleMike15]

r u taking like massive dumps everyday?

cause thats where any excess protein is going


ur body can only handle so much before it just poops it out lol

to much protein just chilling around-than out the other end is not a good thing

if u want to get bigger/leaner u need to re-asses ur diet and find a balance of carbs protein and good healthy fats and excercise

[-Aaron-]

r u taking like massive dumps everyday?

cause thats where any excess protein is going


ur body can only handle so much before it just poops it out lol

to much protein just chilling around-than out the other end is not a good thing

if u want to get bigger/leaner u need to re-asses ur diet and find a balance of carbs protein and good healthy fats and excercise

lolwut?

[MattP343]

270g Protein would be about right for your weight.

[dmaaack]

just eat bish

[-Aaron-]

270g Protein would be about right for your weight.

lolwut?

[MattP343]

180 x 1.5


Calculator?

[lth]

Would you phuckers just EAT!

This crap is so annoying....thermodynamics--a unit of energy is a unit of f*cking energy, you'll gain in a caloric surplus. How much is muscle depends on your efforts at the gym.

[-Aaron-]

Would you phuckers just EAT!

This crap is so annoying....thermodynamics--a unit of energy is a unit of f*cking energy, you'll gain in a caloric surplus. How much is muscle depends on your efforts at the gym.

Congrats on Animal brah!

[kinger235]

I've only just started taking celltech too.

Well first thing you can do is return dat der celltech and buy some plain old regular creatine monohydrate if you want to take creatine that bad
Cell-tech is a big joke on bb.com

[eddiebo]

I would assume you'd have to be pretty active overall and want to intake a good deal of calories from carbs and fats along with that amount of protein. Your eating that much protein implies to me you want extra 'clean' calories though through protein to cover muscle gain?

Looking at your list, seems to me you need to add healthy fats to your diet, like fats from nuts avocados, olive oil etc.

I should add, the body does not work as simply as you'd think. Eating excess protein can do you an injustice both by contributing to unwanted fat gain and may make you dehydrated and as well can tax your kidneys and liver. Not to mention irritate your intestines from the excess bacteria you are feeding.

[Sarge Jones]

Eating excess protein equals gaining excess muscle mass.

[Chris@UGA]

1g per pound will suit you just fine.

[lth]

1g will suit him but more won't 'hurt' him.

This stuff about eating too much protein is getting phucking ridiculous. There always seems to be some damn 'fad' going on in this section. Just eat big and train hard.

[eddiebo]

1g will suit him but more won't 'hurt' him.

This stuff about eating too much protein is getting phucking ridiculous. There always seems to be some damn 'fad' going on in this section. Just eat big and train hard.

Agreed. Though, much more than 1g (and with protein isolates being quickly and efficiently absorbed), my guess is some folks could do some damage intaking extreme amounts of protein over time.

[lth]

Agreed. Though, much more than 1g (and with protein isolates being quickly and efficiently absorbed), my guess is some folks could do some damage intaking extreme amounts of protein over time.

maybe if they had serious kidney issues but otherwise i doubt they would man.

[eddiebo]

maybe if they had serious kidney issues but otherwise i doubt they would man.

Probably, though I personally had a mild issue. was doing alomst a 2.5:1 ratio to start - Started with lower abdominal pain, cloudy piss and got worse, went to the doc, he thought it was an infection prescribed antibiotics, did not resolve. Stopped intaking so much whey and the problem went away.

Have a buddy possibly give himself kidney stones (speculating was due to extreme protein) intaking massive amounts of protein.

[Sarge Jones]

Agreed. Though, much more than 1g (and with protein isolates being quickly and efficiently absorbed), my guess is some folks could do some damage intaking extreme amounts of protein over time.

I would just not go over too much due to it being the most expensive macro.

[RNRW]

307 grams might be a little high, but youll never be protein deficient, so, no biggie...

[-Aaron-]

307 grams might be a little high, but youll never be protein deficient, so, no biggie...

Are you seriously posting in every thread that I post in, intentionally?

[RNRW]

Are you seriously posting in every thread that I post in, intentionally?

LOL, you last posted in it several hours ago, think about it, were both in the nutrition area, it's gonna happen....

I feel like were starting to bond...

[-Aaron-]

LOL, you last posted in it several hours ago, think about it, were both in the nutrition area, it's gonna happen....

I feel like were starting to bond...

You're also going through my posting history and posting in "other" sections, more importantly the threads I post in and nothing else in said sections.

I haven't said this in awhile, but... U mad?

[RNRW]

You're also going through my posting history and posting in "other" sections, more importantly the threads I post in and nothing else in said sections.

I haven't said this in awhile, but... U mad?

I swear upon God that I've never done that, with you or anyone else, if it appears that way, it's out of raw coincidence.

[RNRW]

Just so you know, I generally post in the supplement, and nutrition areas, occasionally I swing over to other sections, but I hang out mainly in these...I don't check anyone's past-post history, and I generally don't bring up dead threads...

[LarryByrd]

That's a pretty solid diet.

Now, just train like an animal in the gym and the results will come.

TRAIN LIKE AN ANIMAL, not a bish.

[LarryByrd]

maybe if they had serious kidney issues but otherwise i doubt they would man.

Excess protein will have a thermal affect on your body, causing you to lose more calories. This is because it takes alot from your digestive system to break them down in to amino acids.

As far as excess protein having side effects on your kidneys, as long as you're drinking plenty of water you will be fine.

[-Aaron-]

Excess protein will have a thermal affect on your body, causing you to lose more calories. This is because it takes alot from your digestive system to break them down in to amino acids.

As far as excess protein having side effects on your kidneys, as long as you're drinking plenty of water you will be fine.

lol!!!

By this logic, nobody will ever store any calories.

[LarryByrd]

lol!!!

By this logic, nobody will ever store any calories.

Meant to replace the word "lose" with "burn".

Go die in a fire.

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