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    Phenylethylamine (Cognitive Nutrition)

    First off, I want to thank Steve for giving me the oppurtunity to give this stuff a shot. I've heard lots of good things about it so I can't wait to see how it goes. I'll be taking my first dose here in a couple minutes and will report back later on this evening.
    Over the years of training, eating, lifting, running, supplementing, shaping and even abusing my body, an axiomatic truth that I have often failed to grasp, but perhaps am on the verge of acquiring, is that desire without discipline will never, ever produce the fruits of joyous success. Discipline leads to perseverance, and perseverance leads to character; and that's what bodybuilding is truly all about: becoming the best person - body, mind and spirit - that you can be.
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
    First off, I want to thank Steve for giving me the oppurtunity to give this stuff a shot. I've heard lots of good things about it so I can't wait to see how it goes. I'll be taking my first dose here in a couple minutes and will report back later on this evening.
    Nice start are you trying 1 cap?
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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    Nice start are you trying 1 cap?
    Yep.

    I popped one cap (750mg) on an empty stomache.

    About 10 minutes after dose, I had the feeling of 'the runs'. I get the same feeling after taking ******** or riddilin.

    About 20 minutes after dose, I felt a very calm, but focused energy. I didn't have the jitters, which was suprising. I gave one to my room mate also, and at this point I overheard her singing and dancing in the kitchen, lol.

    About 45 minutes after dose, I was still very calm, but I had a very high alertness about everything. I walked into the kitchen, and my roomy handed me a plate of fresh grilled talapia! (never cooks for me). She had her Ipod cranked up too high to even hear me say thank you. I take it she'll be wanting more!

    After I ate the talapia, the effects started to diminish, though I still feel very focused and elaborated. I wanted to try another dose for a good kick, but I think I'll save that for tomorrow. Stay tuned!
    Over the years of training, eating, lifting, running, supplementing, shaping and even abusing my body, an axiomatic truth that I have often failed to grasp, but perhaps am on the verge of acquiring, is that desire without discipline will never, ever produce the fruits of joyous success. Discipline leads to perseverance, and perseverance leads to character; and that's what bodybuilding is truly all about: becoming the best person - body, mind and spirit - that you can be.
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
    Yep.

    I popped one cap (750mg) on an empty stomache.

    About 10 minutes after dose, I had the feeling of 'the runs'. I get the same feeling after taking ******** or riddilin.

    About 20 minutes after dose, I felt a very calm, but focused energy. I didn't have the jitters, which was suprising. I gave one to my room mate also, and at this point I overheard her singing and dancing in the kitchen, lol.

    About 45 minutes after dose, I was still very calm, but I had a very high alertness about everything. I walked into the kitchen, and my roomy handed me a plate of fresh grilled talapia! (never cooks for me). She had her Ipod cranked up too high to even hear me say thank you. I take it she'll be wanting more!

    After I ate the talapia, the effects started to diminish, though I still feel very focused and elaborated. I wanted to try another dose for a good kick, but I think I'll save that for tomorrow. Stay tuned!
    Well that's a good sign for the first dose. Just as an FYI I think it's best to dose it once a day for the most part. Eating afterwards does seem to reduce the phase 1 effects to some degree but you should feel relaxed for quite awhile.

    If you like feel free to take 1 cap followed by another 15 mins later or go up to 2 at once tomorrow.

    LOL @ your roommate at this rate you can have her cook for you all the time!
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    PEA kills my appetite. But other than that I think it's the perfect supplement for me. It works 100% of the time and I've never had any negative reactions(other than aggression, but that's not really negative I like it).
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    Dosage: 2 capsules

    15 minutes later - 1 capsule

    empty stomache

    can't feel face

    body numb
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
    Dosage: 2 capsules

    15 minutes later - 1 capsule

    empty stomache

    can't feel face

    body numb
    Well you just skipped a dosing step didn't you lol. How are you feeling?
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    CN is a great guy hooking people up left and right to try this stuff out.

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    Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    CN is a great guy hooking people up left and right to try this stuff out.

    Cant be hurting business
    The tricky part is getting people interested surprising alot of BB's still don't know about it or it's effects. Hmm perhaps an awesome write up is in my future plans.
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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    The tricky part is getting people interested surprising alot of BB's still don't know about it or it's effects. Hmm perhaps an awesome write up is in my future plans.
    Just going to take some time, get a few big name people logging a bit.

    I already see it spreading. I wish I got more mind muscle connection out of it =( the chill effect alone is worth it though.
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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    Well you just skipped a dosing step didn't you lol. How are you feeling?
    Yeah it was my birthday and I wanted to give the party dose a shot. The first phase was intense! I could hardly walk and like I said previously, my face was completely numb. There was a little tingling effect too, kind of similar to the effect of eaa's. After the initial "buzz" faded away, I was completely focused on the basketball game...shouting, screaming, talking strategy...People were asking how I got drunk so fast...

    I have yet to try PEA pre-workout, so I think i'll be dosing 750mg before my back workout today. I'll let you all know how it goes
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    Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    Just going to take some time, get a few big name people logging a bit.

    I already see it spreading. I wish I got more mind muscle connection out of it =( the chill effect alone is worth it though.
    You want to try dosing taking 1-2 capsule 4 times throughout the day for a try?
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
    Yeah it was my birthday and I wanted to give the party dose a shot. The first phase was intense! I could hardly walk and like I said previously, my face was completely numb. There was a little tingling effect too, kind of similar to the effect of eaa's. After the initial "buzz" faded away, I was completely focused on the basketball game...shouting, screaming, talking strategy...People were asking how I got drunk so fast...

    I have yet to try PEA pre-workout, so I think i'll be dosing 750mg before my back workout today. I'll let you all know how it goes
    Sounds like an awesome time. Did you drink as well?
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
    Yep.

    I popped one cap (750mg) on an empty stomache.

    About 10 minutes after dose, I had the feeling of 'the runs'. I get the same feeling after taking ******** or riddilin.

    About 20 minutes after dose, I felt a very calm, but focused energy. I didn't have the jitters, which was suprising. I gave one to my room mate also, and at this point I overheard her singing and dancing in the kitchen, lol.

    About 45 minutes after dose, I was still very calm, but I had a very high alertness about everything. I walked into the kitchen, and my roomy handed me a plate of fresh grilled talapia! (never cooks for me). She had her Ipod cranked up too high to even hear me say thank you. I take it she'll be wanting more!

    After I ate the talapia, the effects started to diminish, though I still feel very focused and elaborated. I wanted to try another dose for a good kick, but I think I'll save that for tomorrow. Stay tuned!
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    Originally Posted by otrebmu View Post
    rooming with a female, orly
    I should have touched up on this. Good call man.

    jdbman11 any Pics? Is she cute or has a bf? or gf? lol
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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    You want to try dosing taking 1-2 capsule 4 times throughout the day for a try?
    2-4g a day =\

    isnt that pushing it?
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    I don't know if the current logger is a student or not, but would PEA help with test anxiety? I seem to suffer from this quite a bit...
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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    Sounds like an awesome time. Did you drink as well?
    I had two Crown&Coke's. Love my canadian whiskey

    Originally Posted by otrebmu View Post
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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    I should have touched up on this. Good call man.

    jdbman11 any Pics? Is she cute or has a bf? or gf? lol
    haha you guys need girlfriends. She won't let me post a pic of her, but she's cute. I'd do her. haha (just got punched). she says Hi

    As for my workout, I seemed to have a little more energy. I almost felt like I'd taken a stimulant. I want to try 1500mg preworkout... as anyone tried this?
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    giver her some more of that stuff and then proceed to PIITB.

    don't tell her what PIITB means, just do it. stealth PIITBing.
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    Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    2-4g a day =\

    isnt that pushing it?
    For 1 day to try it I think you will live. I did lol. Remember your body metabolizes it quite fast. Within an hour or so of the first dose there is no more PEA left in your systems.

    Trust and judge yourself with the doses you've taken if you don't feel comfortable then don't do it.
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    giver her some more of that stuff and then proceed to PIITB.

    don't tell her what PIITB means, just do it. stealth PIITBing.
    Sounds like it involves peanut butter jk. Thank god for ud or I wouldn't know what half you kids say.
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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    For 1 day to try it I think you will live. I did lol. Remember your body metabolizes it quite fast. Within an hour or so of the first dose there is no more PEA left in your systems.
    Originally Posted by Black_Label View Post
    2-4g a day =\

    isnt that pushing it?
    I have done over 3-4+ grams of PEA in a day multiple times, with alcohol before, with Theanine, 5htp, l-Dopa, all kinds of stuff

    trust me you will live as Steve said your body metabolizes it super fast. I believe I read on wikipedia that the half-life is about 10 minutes

    what I do have to try though is pairing up a low dose of PEA with a MAO-B inhibitor

    if you wanna go to a party and feel great but aren't in the mood to drink (just not feeling it or don't want to ruin your BB gains) then just bring a baggie with 4-5g of PEA and dose that over the night i have never kept laughing randomly in one night ever before...
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    Originally Posted by otrebmu View Post
    giver her some more of that stuff and then proceed to PIITB.

    don't tell her what PIITB means, just do it. stealth PIITBing.
    LOL

    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    For 1 day to try it I think you will live. I did lol. Remember your body metabolizes it quite fast. Within an hour or so of the first dose there is no more PEA left in your systems.

    Trust and judge yourself with the doses you've taken if you don't feel comfortable then don't do it.
    Interesting.

    Such thing as a PEA Overdose?
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    Just walked in from an extremely hot date. I took 4500mg throughout the evening. I took two around 9, two more around 1030, and two at midnight. Let's just say the night was fun. I only had one beer and I didn't feel the need to keep drinking (which is good for me).

    I was deadset on going home with her. Definitely more so than on usual dates. When the date was closing and it sounded like she wanted to call it a night, I pulled some **** out of my arse and persuaded her to continue the partay .

    I didn't feel the inital first phase buzz that I usually do.. perhaps I should cycle off for a couple days. CN, do you think it would be harmful to increase the dosage to 7-8 caps in an evening?
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
    LOL



    Interesting.

    Such thing as a PEA Overdose?
    I'm sure you don't want to be the first one to find out. Any compound can be taken in a high enough dose to cause problems that dose varies on the person. I generally recommending taking the lowest effective dose after you've done your trial and error experimenting with it.
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
    Just walked in from an extremely hot date. I took 4500mg throughout the evening. I took two around 9, two more around 1030, and two at midnight. Let's just say the night was fun. I only had one beer and I didn't feel the need to keep drinking (which is good for me).

    I was deadset on going home with her. Definitely more so than on usual dates. When the date was closing and it sounded like she wanted to call it a night, I pulled some **** out of my arse and persuaded her to continue the partay .

    I didn't feel the inital first phase buzz that I usually do.. perhaps I should cycle off for a couple days. CN, do you think it would be harmful to increase the dosage to 7-8 caps in an evening?
    The higher doses you take the more days I would suggest cycling off.
    I don't think you felt a buzz in part due to the doses (probably abit too low) and time apart you took them. In order to feel a buzz you need an significant increase in PEA in your system and to maintain that with closer timed doses (15-30 mins).

    I would suggest taking r-lipoic acid 100 mg if you're planning to go over 4 caps. Harmful? Ehh not more so than a few drinks. But daily I don't think that's wise.

    I would be very curious how well you sleep and what your dreams are like.
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    Originally Posted by CognitiveNutrition View Post
    The higher doses you take the more days I would suggest cycling off.
    I don't think you felt a buzz in part due to the doses (probably abit too low) and time apart you took them. In order to feel a buzz you need an significant increase in PEA in your system and to maintain that with closer timed doses (15-30 mins).

    I would suggest taking r-lipoic acid 100 mg if you're planning to go over 4 caps. Harmful? Ehh not more so than a few drinks. But daily I don't think that's wise.

    I would be very curious how well you sleep and what your dreams are like.
    Actually I didn't fall asleep until 5am, but my sleep was excellent. I woke up at noon feeling great and made a delicous homeade mcmuffin I don't recall any dreams, though...

    Why do you suggest r-lipoic acid?

    I'm going to try 1500mg 15 minutes apart before workout today. And I won't be taking another dose until Wednesday. will report back
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
    Actually I didn't fall asleep until 5am, but my sleep was excellent. I woke up at noon feeling great and made a delicous homeade mcmuffin I don't recall any dreams, though...

    Why do you suggest r-lipoic acid?

    I'm going to try 1500mg 15 minutes apart before workout today. And I won't be taking another dose until Wednesday. will report back
    In very high doses like ALC it may increase free radicals. R-Lipoic acid should shields you any of that.
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    Originally Posted by jdbman11 View Post
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    Interesting.

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    how did it go?
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