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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    exactly... people think becoming a pro is purely for insanely gifted people, what they dont realize is there are pros like art atwood, queen tamali etc, which arent even close to being geneticly gifted IMO.
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    gaspari said he gained mass & strength v.fast as a teenager ( i think squatting over 500 still in school) & himself said thats evidence of good genetics.

    ppl confuse poor aesthetics with poor genetics.

    good aesthetics are just the icing on the cake.
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    Originally Posted by manfred99 View Post
    gaspari said he gained mass & strength v.fast as a teenager ( i think squatting over 500 still in school) & himself said thats evidence of good genetics.

    ppl confuse poor aesthetics with poor genetics.

    good aesthetics are just the icing on the cake.
    aestheticism falls under ur genetics brah
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    anyone with average genetics can become a pro bodybuilder.


    being a top pro, thats another story.
    this is so not true.do you relize the amount of npc bodybuilders that compete year in and year out vs the ratio of ifbb pro cards they give out every year.
    and if this statement was true wouldnt most posters on this forum be pro?
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    aestheticism falls under ur genetics brah
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    aestheticism falls under ur genetics brah
    yeh, that is my point.
    its only 1 part of it.
    u guys assumed atwood had poor genetics coz he didnt look that good.
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    well

    I really don't train hard at all, and I really don't work out much and I'm able to maintain the physique I have now. I just keep my diet almost 100% in check. Think I have a good enough "structure" to be a "top pro"? edit, given of course lets call it "perfect conditions"
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    Lookin To Go Pro

    Well I feel alittle out numbered not alot of chicks talking about going on this page but I am really looking to go pro. I just dont know how to get into the IFBB. Can annyone tell me how to start on the road to going pro.
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    Originally Posted by marc52874 View Post
    this is so not true.do you relize the amount of npc bodybuilders that compete year in and year out vs the ratio of ifbb pro cards they give out every year.
    and if this statement was true wouldnt most posters on this forum be pro?
    Most posters on this forum don't compete. Only a small percentage of us actually get on stage and compete.
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    Originally Posted by EVO-PT View Post
    Now i know ALOT of guys would love to be a pro but who is wanting to become pro - i.e training, dieting, competing to become pro and make a living out of it???

    I never really here much on the forums about guys training to be pro - so i thought id post something up and find out who is trying to become pro!!!
    I think, when you commit your life to bodybuilding; Anything is possible.
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    I don't plan on just being a pro to be honest, I will be Mr.Olympia in about 10 years time. I'm currently building my base. I have wide clavicles, large shoulders,large back, large legs, good symmetry, most of all my muscles grow easily.only muscle lagging is my chest, and thats not even a genetic issue, it's a lack of quality training for chest, I fell into the whole more weight = big chest, lifted 315 in my first 2 months of bodybuilding so...no that didnt work.

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    i've got almost the same body type as jay cutler, and we all know what he was capable of for body shape at one time, i seem to grow fairly easily, my chest lacks a little (just like Jay lol) my legs have always been real big naturally, i hope to one day be pro, just got to give it a shot
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    Originally Posted by East1600plus View Post
    i've got almost the same body type as jay cutler, and we all know what he was capable of for body shape at one time, i seem to grow fairly easily, my chest lacks a little (just like Jay lol) my legs have always been real big naturally, i hope to one day be pro, just got to give it a shot
    judging from ur pics, its really impossible to tell what kind of body you have, your no where near muscular enough or conditioned enough to display the real colors of ur budy composition..., no hating just saying , u can tell if someone has potential as a top tier pro when they have a body level for competitions like npc state champs or something like that...
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    Originally Posted by East1600plus View Post
    i've got almost the same body type as jay cutler, and we all know what he was capable of for body shape at one time, i seem to grow fairly easily, my chest lacks a little (just like Jay lol) my legs have always been real big naturally, i hope to one day be pro, just got to give it a shot
    for real, at one point jay was seen as having the perfect structure.
    2001/2003 he looked amazing. if it's true that you have a similar structure to him bro, just watch it with the waist from the start.minimum ab work(except vacuums) and remember to wear your belt when you deadlift and squat
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    Props to people saying they dont have the commitment to become a pro...

    And the rest who talk about genetics... First eat, train and rest right for a couple of years with consistency and then talk about genetics. Maybe then 1% of people here could complain about how they have ****ty genetics and thus look like ****.

    So much talk about genetics... Its as tho pros dont train harder then your average amateur BBer...

    Take a look at Yates and Nasser in their 20's and their starting point... And then take a look at Cutler when he started BBing as a kid...

    Ofcourse most people dont have genetics to be as big as most pros but lets be honest here: Most people dont have the will to become a pro.

    And sure there are better and worse responders to juice, but most people who are average responders and want to achieve something, blame genetics. Put more hard work and consistency into it and you will suddenly become a better responder...

    The fact that you dont look like your "friend" who is 6', 200lbs with a six pack, yet he eats what he wants and drinks every week doesnt mean you have ****ty genetics...


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    Originally Posted by Karumandi View Post
    Props to people saying they dont have the commitment to become a pro...

    And the rest who talk about genetics... First eat, train and rest right for a couple of years with consistency and then talk about genetics. Maybe then 1% of people here could complain about how they have ****ty genetics and thus look like ****.

    So much talk about genetics... Its as tho pros dont train harder then your average amateur BBer...

    Take a look at Yates and Nasser in their 20's and their starting point... And then take a look at Cutler when he started BBing as a kid...

    Ofcourse most people dont have genetics to be as big as most pros but lets be honest here: Most people dont have the will to become a pro.

    And sure there are better and worse responders to juice, but most people who are average responders and want to achieve something, blame genetics. Put more hard work and consistency into it and you will suddenly become a better responder...

    The fact that you dont look like your "friend" who is 6', 200lbs with a six pack, yet he eats what he wants and drinks every week doesnt mean you have ****ty genetics...


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    Id love to make pro. Right now i just take it one show @ a time. Work to make improvements and be better each time I step onstage and if pro is the outcome... Damn right. I make good money already and understand that in order to make it as a top bodybuilder you have to Hustle yourself. You are the commodity. Like alot of us on here i have my weaknesses, high lats, tall, narrow shoulders (but lucky enough to have a tiny waist 31"), short triceps, but i'll take it show by show.
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    judging from ur pics, its really impossible to tell what kind of body you have, your no where near muscular enough or conditioned enough to display the real colors of ur budy composition..., no hating just saying , u can tell if someone has potential as a top tier pro when they have a body level for competitions like npc state champs or something like that...
    considering the only pic with me and my shirt off is over 2 years old... .....u really dont know how i look now
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    Id love to be a pro. I am shotting for it. I just turned 21, I think i have a shot. Maybe not top tier, but a pro if nothing else ;-)
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    Originally Posted by EVO-PT View Post
    Now i know ALOT of guys would love to be a pro but who is wanting to become pro - i.e training, dieting, competing to become pro and make a living out of it ?

    I want to but i don't want to lift any HEAVY ASS WEIGHTS.
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    i dont think i have the genetics for it i would love to be one tho my kids on the other hand are gonna be freaks
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    My Quest for a Pro Card

    I've been trying for years to get my pro card. Some time ago, I was actually banned for a few years from setting foot onto Weider property, including attending Weider events, all for just wanting my PRO CARD!

    This is how all the trouble started...

    I hope you will take up my cause and flood the IFBB with emails protesting thier refusal to grant me my rightfully deserved pro-card. Despite proving my worth, the powers that be at the IFBB have ignored my requests, and I sense some form of discrimination is afoot.

    The following is a true story.

    I had travelled to Montreal, Canada, (first class of course) with my chauffeur/training partner/ex-convict, Nobby, to get my pro card from the Weider head office.

    I had sent them my photos several times, which gave Wayne Demilla good views of my enourmous arms, monstrous legs, and overall Herculean development which would quash every competitor at the Mr. Olympia. My requests to be granted a pro card went unanswered, so I had, in a fit of rage, taken a flight to Montreal to settle the matter in person.

    As we got out of the rented Jaguar, we ran into none other than Bob Paris in the parking lot! "Bob- are you going to compete again?" I asked. "Well, we'll see...not for now....I've gotta run boys.." and with that he skipped off into a pink cadillac and roared off, the stereo blasting the 70s hit 'YMCA'.
    "There goes one of the GREATS" I uttered, with reverence.
    "Seemed loik a fookin POOFTAH to me!" Nobby snarled.

    Nobby and I lumbered up to the front doors of Weider Headquarters and threw them open with such force that they shattered. I walked up to the front desk, and addressed the terrified looking 'receptionist' with a roar of "TAKING CHARGE!!! GET ME DEMILLA NOOWWWW!!" that was so loud all the windows in the building rattled. "Just a minute..." the young woman at the desk snivelled, and quickly picked up a phone and said "Get down here...now...pleeeaaasse!!".
    I surmised that she must have been speaking to Joe Weider.

    Just then, several security guards approached Nobby and I, and in an instant, Nobby had his motorbike chain in hand and began beating the guards off, screaming. I grabbed a couple of them and hurled them through the reception desk, demolishing it.
    Wayne Demilla appeared, and was astonished to see the guards had one and all been dealt with. "Well, Wayne....where's my ****ING card?!!" I screamed, then ran charging over and clotheslined him with such force that he did a perfect backflip and hit the floor, unconscious.
    As the sound of police sirens neared, Nobby and I ran out the front door, laughing, and made our escape.
    I'd given them a piece of my mind, and that night I slept the sleep of the Just.

    This is unfair. I deserve a pro card, and, by God, they know it!
    I am thinking of pressing assault charges against Weider Inc. for the behaviour of those security guards!!
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    Originally Posted by zrage View Post
    judging from ur pics, its really impossible to tell what kind of body you have, your no where near muscular enough or conditioned enough to display the real colors of ur budy composition..., no hating just saying , u can tell if someone has potential as a top tier pro when they have a body level for competitions like npc state champs or something like that...
    Seems like you are hating.
    It is with people like you that this sport will never grow. "When you say, everything and anything to be pro, do you mean even to turn HOMO?...

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    I am an endomorph through and through, so I doubt I have much chance.

    I have way too many opportunities in my life to pursue. I'd love to be a pro bodybuilder, but I don't think I can afford to put my family through that. It would be selfish and dumb. But! - I'd love to compete in some shows.

    I also am into powerlifting, so that kind of gets in the way. I was bodybuilding for a while, and gained about 50 pounds, but I think I could look alot better. I don't eat right, and I hate cardio. I also don't want to do a bunch of roids. I do plan to do some cycles eventually, but I am not looking to pump myself full of a bunch of substances.

    Whatever though. I love to train. I like getting bigger. And I love getting stronger. **** it...
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    I'm training to be a natural pro. I have no aspirations to become an IFBB pro, and am not willing to do what it takes to get to that level. I always think it would be a huge gamble to make the switch from natural, cuz if genetically you don't respond well to gear, then you've jeopordized your natural bodybuilding career only to have no career in the IFBB....
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