Reps for Anyone Who Can Explain My Testosterone Results

[dabbmw2002]

Not sure what you're up to ,but asking like you don't know anything about it isn't fooling anyone

So cut the crap

Not sure if he's trolling or if he's a retard. Both?

[PaulJerome]

Not sure if he's trolling or if he's a retard. Both?

Not that it matters, but what test can I take to prove this is my bodies own testosterone?

Anyone who wants to wager $100 I will match your $100 and we both place it with www.escrow.com and take the test. If the testosterone is exogenous then you win and if not, then I win. Deal?

Unlike many on this forum, I do not lie. I know that is a foreign concepts to most of you.

[Mulloway69]

Not sure what you're up to ,but asking like you don't know anything about it isn't fooling anyone

So cut the crap

This, the disingenuous feigned ignorance schtick don't work around these parts. Well with some of us at least.

I'm not telling lies. I thought we established that in the other thread.

Oh, you primed us for this crap previously.

Well that clears that up then, nothing suss to see here boyos.

Edit, oh wait he also said he doesnt lie. Cant get any more honest than that.

[OliverHeldens]

On the sheet it says that the normal range for free testosterone is 3.9-22.5 ng/dl

This means you are making a ton of test and your body is using most of it.

[PaulJerome]

Well that clears that up then, nothing suss to see here boyos.

I understand people not believing my test is natural. I also understand people not believing I'm 6'5" 10.9% bodyfat and the body of a Greek god in my 50's with my screen name being my real name. It does seem a little far fetched. Add to that I've signed ten tax returns in a row with the lowest gross profit of $1.2mm and highest 2.3mm. Of course that was back when you guys were in gradeschool and a nice 3 bedroom 2 bath house could be bought for $70k.

Not that it matters, but for grins and an interesting thread which has the dual purpose of making you look silly, I have created the email address PaulJeromeNaturalTestosterone@yahoo.com

Pick the lab test you want me to take (this is my lab: https://tinyurl.com/2mjvuukv ). Add $100 to www.escrow.com and place your bet that I provide you with something showing I'm on T and then give me your email and I will add $100 to www.escrow.com and place the bet that my testosterone is 100% my own.

I will accept as many $100 wagers from as posters who dare to risk.

The gauntlet has been thrown, son.

This means you are making a ton of test and your body is using most of it.

Thanks man.

[EnochsProphecy]

Your test is high

But so is your shbg


Your free t is what matters and its right where it's supposed to be

proviron or preferably low dose anavar (5mg) would fix (lower shbg) this.

[dabbmw2002]

Not that it matters, but what test can I take to prove this is my bodies own testosterone?

Anyone who wants to wager $100 I will match your $100 and we both place it with www.escrow.com and take the test. If the testosterone is exogenous then you win and if not, then I win. Deal?

Unlike many on this forum, I do not lie. I know that is a foreign concepts to most of you.

You're narcissistically under the impression that anyone here gives that much of a chit. Kind of weird how much you got invested in this. Get some mental help.

[JPG13]

Yeah, but that's total testosterone. My total testosterone is on the high side. I thought it was the free testosterone that was more important.



I thought I might get a straight answer from someone. No, I am not on any exogenous testosterone. I wrote what I take in another thread:

I take 100 mg Zinc, 400 mg Magnesium, 5000 iu D3 (but I also go out in the sun regularly), 800 mg DIM, 2,100 mg Dopa Macuna, 1800 mg Tongkat Ali, 600 mg Fadogia Agrestis, 650 mcg iodine, 1.2 g Wiley's Wild Alaskan Fish Oil (super expensive but no metals), and 2,875 mg Avena Sativa.

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1700883543

**** dude at that rate just take test lol

[JT11RTR]

Test levels through the roof

[jtaylor2010]

Assuming the test for free t is accurate(some tests can be very inaccurate) then it means your total test is high but your SHBG and albumin are driving your free t levels down. Think of it as total t is you net worth(properties, 402k, bank account, etc.) and your free t is your bank account. Your total levels are high but those are not readily accessible for your body. As long as you feel good that’s the main thing.

[PaulJerome]

You're narcissistically under the impression that anyone here gives that much of a chit. Kind of weird how much you got invested in this. Get some mental help.

This is an example of weaseling out the door and trying to save face, right?

It's ok, I'll let you walk away with your chest puffed out and not taunt you any more.

proviron or preferably low dose anavar (5mg) would fix (lower shbg) this.

I don't know the danger of high shbg and I don't know what proviron or anavar are, but your post is appreciated and will look into.

**** dude at that rate just take test lol

Going to stay natural as long as I can.

Test levels through the roof

Thanks man. I'm all out of reps.

Assuming the test for free t is accurate(some tests can be very inaccurate) then it means your total test is high but your SHBG and albumin are driving your free t levels down. Think of it as total t is you net worth(properties, 402k, bank account, etc.) and your free t is your bank account. Your total levels are high but those are not readily accessible for your body. As long as you feel good that’s the main thing.

Thanks man. Yes, I feel great. Mood is great. Strength is waning but still great. And wake up with an EMB. All's good, for now.

[ChunkBuster]

T levels are a bit rapey

[PaulJerome]

Assuming the test for free t is accurate(some tests can be very inaccurate) then it means your total test is high but your SHBG and albumin are driving your free t levels down. Think of it as total t is you net worth(properties, 402k, bank account, etc.) and your free t is your bank account. Your total levels are high but those are not readily accessible for your body. As long as you feel good that’s the main thing.

JTaylor with the most helpful comment in this thread. Thanks! Repped you a day late because I was out of reps yesterday.

Albumin levels were probably high because I didn't drink any water that morning and instead just drank an energy drink. I read that being dehydrated increases albumin levels. I drink at least one entire gallon of water every day. Didn't drink before the test because I thought instructions were not to eat or drink for 12 hours.

SHBG can be lowered with Boron. The other things it suggested: magnesium, vitamin D, fish oil, zinc, calcium, and tongkat ali i'm already taking, so will add 10mg Boron to the mix.

[jtaylor2010]

JTaylor with the most helpful comment in this thread. Thanks! Repped you a day late because I was out of reps yesterday.

Albumin levels were probably high because I didn't drink any water that morning and instead just drank an energy drink. I read that being dehydrated increases albumin levels. I drink at least one entire gallon of water every day. Didn't drink before the test because I thought instructions were not to eat or drink for 12 hours.

SHBG can be lowered with Boron. The other things it suggested: magnesium, vitamin D, fish oil, zinc, calcium, and tongkat ali i'm already taking, so will add 10mg Boron to the mix.

No problem bro. Not familiar with hydration effects on albumin but I would say it’s good to be hydrated for your bloodwork, especially if that’s the state you spend most of your time in. It will also help with your hematocrit levels since hydration plays a huge role in that. And out of curiously, why would you not drink water due to instructions…but would drink an energy drink? Makes no sense as water is fine but all the stuff in energy drinks would likely affect results.

I have heard of people using boron to lower SHBG with success, but not sure if that’s a longterm solution. Also, if you are already taking those other things yet still have high SHBG levels it’s likely due to your body regulating your testosterone. Yes there are other factors that can raise or lower SHBG to affect free testosterone, but at the same time a huge role of it is to do that very thing…which is lower free testosterone if your body thinks it’s at a higher than needed level. You may be fighting a losing battle with trying to lower it. But again, if you feel good physically and mentally then no real need to change too much.

[PaulJerome]

And out of curiously, why would you not drink water due to instructions…but would drink an energy drink? Makes no sense as water is fine but all the stuff in energy drinks would likely affect results.

No good reason other than me being an idiot. That's how I start my day with an energy drink, but also start it with a lot of water.