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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    Probably because he still holds a firearm?
    Why wouldn't Z?

    (Goetz was of course, being NY, convicted of illegally carrying and that of course was a felony so yeah there is that)
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    I’ve also wondered about that guy who says he killed bin Laden, running around cashing in on his fame, too. Would have thought he would’ve been marked like Salman Rushdie.
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    Originally Posted by Bo_Flecks View Post
    I’ve also wondered about that guy who says he killed bin Laden, running around cashing in on his fame, too. Would have thought he would’ve been marked like Salman Rushdie.
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    Yea I thought SF guys were supposed to be all silent professional. Dude who killed Laden is all over YouTube flapping his yapper huh
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Why wouldn't Z?

    (Goetz was of course, being NY, convicted of illegally carrying and that of course was a felony so yeah there is that)
    It's been a long time and coverage at the time was less detailed than it is today, but didn't Goetz lose a civil case against one of the kids. I know he wasn't convicted of murder or assault because he was convinced they were going to attack him and the law said you could use force to prevent a robbery. But (googled) the kid who wound up with brain damage and paralyzed did win a lawsuit against him. Makes you wonder how it would have played out if it had gone to court today. Would he have been convicted because he shot them all when that kid was just standing there and never displayed a weapon?

    I also remember Massad Ayoob once saying he carried a $20 bill wrapped around a matchbook to give to someone who tried to do to him what the 4 guys did to Goetz. Said he didn't want to kill somebody over a trivial amount of money. I'm not sure I have the details exactly right and I doubt that method would diffuse many situations, but maybe some, and the sentiment seemed right to me.
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    0.22 cpr 9mm for all you non reloading peasants. Shipping will prob be around $20 for most of you

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    Read bad reviews about that brand. Anyone try them?
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    Originally Posted by criminal_manne View Post
    Yea I thought SF guys were supposed to be all silent professional. Dude who killed Laden is all over YouTube flapping his yapper huh
    It was either Nuggz or Rthoe that said:

    “Wanna’ know what the Navy SEALs are up to? Just go to the non-fiction section of Barnes and Noble.”
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    imagine carrying a gun but also carrying an extra 20 dollar bill with the sole purpose of giving to a perp.. fukin lol
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    Read bad reviews about that brand. Anyone try them?
    For $85 more I can get Blazer Brass, why risk it?
    Was going to order 1000 rounds from ammoman last night but started digging around and found 170 rounds of HST and 500 of winchester cheap stuff, so may hold out for a bit.

    Also scared the crap out of myself. I found the case for my FN509 in the same container as that winchester ammo, but not the 509, and I didn't see it in the safe.
    So I started digging our every lock box I have looking for it since I wouldn't have left it out intentionally. Nada
    Finally pulled a bunch of stuff out of the safe and found it. In a sock, in a box, buried under a bunch of Glock magazines. Guess I didn't check before I moved the mags into that box, and for about 20 minutes I actually thought maybe I'd lost one. That's scary.

    Originally Posted by Meatie View Post
    imagine carrying a gun but also carrying an extra 20 dollar bill with the sole purpose of giving to a perp.. fukin lol
    I think it's more along the lines of: If you can diffuse a situation for only $20 and avoid having to actually pull the trigger, is that $20 well spent?
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    Originally Posted by JustTheDad View Post
    For $85 more I can get Blazer Brass, why risk it?
    Was going to order 1000 rounds from ammoman last night but started digging around and found 170 rounds of HST and 500 of winchester cheap stuff, so may hold out for a bit.

    Also scared the crap out of myself. I found the case for my FN509 in the same container as that winchester ammo, but not the 509, and I didn't see it in the safe.
    So I started digging our every lock box I have looking for it since I wouldn't have left it out intentionally. Nada
    Finally pulled a bunch of stuff out of the safe and found it. In a sock, in a box, buried under a bunch of Glock magazines. Guess I didn't check before I moved the mags into that box, and for about 20 minutes I actually thought maybe I'd lost one. That's scary.



    I think it's more along the lines of: If you can diffuse a situation for only $20 and avoid having to actually pull the trigger, is that $20 well spent?

    then why stop at 20? why not a couple 1000? stupid concept. Mas is a smart guy but he is past his prime. can't really handle the pressure anymore and would rather just poop his pants and scare the attacker off like John Korea

    if you hand a perp a 20, you know they are going to go in for more. might as well hand over your EDC pistol while youre at it. Also what if the attacker wants to kill you. would be better off carrying around a fake ring saying its real diamonds, throwing it at the floor and then wasting 'em
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    Originally Posted by Meatie View Post
    then why stop at 20? why not a couple 1000? stupid concept. Mas is a smart guy but he is past his prime. can't really handle the pressure anymore and would rather just poop his pants and scare the attacker off like John Korea

    if you hand a perp a 20, you know they are going to go in for more. might as well hand over your EDC pistol while youre at it. Also what if the attacker wants to kill you. would be better off carrying around a fake ring saying its real diamonds, throwing it at the floor and then wasting 'em
    I never said you were giving up all your options and everything is situational. Look at the case I was referring to. If Goetz had pulled out 5 singles and said I need 2 for coffee, they may have laughed and taken 3. They may have taken the entire 5. But they were right behind the conductor, only a minute or two to the next stop, Saturday afternoon so not a deserted area, and there was also at least one other person on the car. So yeah, the 4 guys seemed threatening, but they hadn't pulled out any weapons. I looked up that case and I do believe he was terrified and that he panicked. But he also didn't make great decisions and got lucky.

    Just because he didn't break the law doesn't mean he made the best choice, and I'd say the same thing about Zimmerman and Rittenhouse. They were idiots. Not criminals, just idiots. As to Ayoob's $20 suggestion, in the case of Goetz, I suspect his life would have been better if he hadn't panicked and had instead given up $5 or yes, even $20. But hey, maybe you know how perps act more than I do. And maybe months of trials, having to declare bankruptcy and losing his business after the civil case, and then a career as a volunteer squirrel nurse in central park was actually what Goetz wanted.
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    You guys wanna hear the latest product to workaround CA assault weapons laws? Lol.

    So the law states that you need a fixed magazine. To where you can’t remove it without disassembling the action.

    …..However it doesn’t state where or what type. Lol.


    So a company made a device that mounts(fixes) a tiny 22Lr mag into the inside of your hollow magpul grip. And that constitutes a fixed mag lmao


    They sent it in and got a letter from a well known firearms lawyer and he confirmed that it indeed acts as a “redundant” (wink wink) fixed mag.

    So if it’s redundant, it also means it can be primary since it does the same thing(thus making it redundant)

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    How long do you think it will be before some crazy lefty gives Rittenhouse the John Lennon treatment?
    Leftists are quick to lash out with violence, specifically political violence. The problem is that they're also stupid. They'd be much quicker to take out their "rage" of Rittenhouse on random innocents.

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    left wing liberals are more in the moment emotional types, they aren't smart enough to carry out a calculated hit
    Sort of this. Most of the mass shooters lately have been leftists, so in general they're very violent. Emotional and stupid as well, though. It's like the democrat who just ran over a teenager for being republican. Completely unhinged but willing to enact violence.

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    I’ve also wondered about that guy who says he killed bin Laden, running around cashing in on his fame, too. Would have thought he would’ve been marked like Salman Rushdie.
    The hilarious thing is that dude, Robert O'Neill, didn't even kill him. Him and another guy, Bissonnette, both claimed to have killed him. They both wrote books and did public speaking tours. In reality, a third unnamed member was the one who actually killed him, remaining on active duty and hasn't come forward (yet). O'Neill and Bissonnette got into physical fist fights over who would get to claim the kill and have both been banned from DEVGRU facilities.

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    Yea I thought SF guys were supposed to be all silent professional. Dude who killed Laden is all over YouTube flapping his yapper huh
    SF is an actual unit. Special Forces are a US Army unit. What you're meaning to say is SOF, or Special Operations Forces, which encompasses all units in SOCOM.

    US Army Special Forces have adopted the term "quiet professionals" and typically live by it. SEALs, as well as MARSOC, go by the opposite of that.

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    It was either Nuggz or Rthoe that said:

    “Wanna’ know what the Navy SEALs are up to? Just go to the non-fiction section of Barnes and Noble.”
    At the rate recent prominent SEALs' stories have gone, you could check out the fiction section as well.
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    Originally Posted by 4ea View Post
    i know you bros are already aware of this, but just for the sake of pointing out the obvious...

    [youtube]KQ-YjGmpO4Q[youtube]

    bet he stays up late looking at pics of belle delpheem while blasting WRAP music

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    Originally Posted by Meatie View Post
    bet he stays up late looking at pics of belle delpheem while blasting WRAP music

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    i think he likes them younger

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    The adults are back in charge, amiright
    yea, something like that
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    Originally Posted by 28maynard View Post
    The adults are back in charge, amiright



    You spelled it wrong


    it's spelled " ThE AdUlTs ArE BaCk In ChArGe"

    Because in clown world everything left wing is laughable
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    Mas Ayboob lol

    If that clowns name was “Gerald Brooks” or “Steven Williams” you never would have heard of him. Semi exotic name and now you’ve got every goon that open carries a rifle at a Georgia mall slobbing on his knob like he’s some elite tactician
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    Originally Posted by RgrJNC View Post
    Mas Ayboob lol

    If that clowns name was “Gerald Brooks” or “Steven Williams” you never would have heard of him. Semi exotic name and now you’ve got every goon that open carries a rifle at a Georgia mall slobbing on his knob like he’s some elite tactician
    You sound jealous of the actual competitions he won before you were turning diapers yellow

    Not that anybody actually GAF about this "tactician" thing you are trolling on about
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    Originally Posted by RgrJNC View Post
    Mas Ayboob lol

    If that clowns name was “Gerald Brooks” or “Steven Williams” you never would have heard of him. Semi exotic name and now you’ve got every goon that open carries a rifle at a Georgia mall slobbing on his knob like he’s some elite tactician
    Oh boy...stand by for incoming.


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    Originally Posted by 28maynard View Post
    Kinda curious to hear this answer
    Ah. Well... I attended Juilliard... I'm a graduate of the Harvard business school. I travel quite extensively. I lived through the Black Plague and had a pretty good time during that. I've seen the EXORCIST ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SIXTY-SEVEN TIMES, AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE IT... NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO A DEAD GUY... NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK? You think I'm qualified?


    Lol at some basic a$$ 11 who just happened to go through BAC, which literally almost everyone can get in their contract in the army, wants to compare notes?

    On a random interwebz site?

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    Originally Posted by Hussar1 View Post

    Lol at some basic a$$ 11 who just happened to go through BAC, which literally almost everyone can get in their contract in the army, wants to compare notes?
    Strong avoidance of the question
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Strong avoidance of the question
    Keep thinking that.
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    Keep thinking that.
    Everyone reading this thread is thinking that.
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    Originally Posted by RgrJNC View Post
    Mas Ayboob lol

    If that clowns name was “Gerald Brooks” or “Steven Williams” you never would have heard of him. Semi exotic name and now you’ve got every goon that open carries a rifle at a Georgia mall slobbing on his knob like he’s some elite tactician
    That and im pretty sure most gun nuts would revolt if they found out his arab origins lol

    LGS hosts him every year for about 400-500 a class. I was planning on going, but always forget. wonder how much stim intake i'd need to stay awake. he has that low baritone voice that can make you fall asleep
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