So how would a new one work when the last one didnt
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02-17-2018, 06:21 PM #1
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02-17-2018, 06:32 PM #2
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Liberals use every chance they get to restrict gun laws. It's in their nature. I'd probably say majority are just useful idiots going along with the narrative.
The only law I would approve of passing is to arm qualified teachers and/or make it mandatory to have one or two armed guards on school grounds at all times.
Weaponize the shephard to protect their flock from the wolves.
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02-17-2018, 07:04 PM #3
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I agree with this. When an attack begins it begins in a “gun free zone” and security is quite often specifically forbidden from being armed.
When this happens, as is also the case in gun control laden UK, armed police capable of countering the shooter are 10-15+ minutes away. This is enough time for the entire shooting to be over by the time armed people arrive.
If the response begins in ~1 minute a lot of the incentive to attack schools is taken away. The shooters want to murder a lot of people. If they’re likely to be rapidly interrupted then they’re much less likely to select that place as a target.
Kind of like how terrorists generally don’t attempt a mass shooting at the state trooper base.*Equal Protection Clause Advocates Crew*
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02-17-2018, 07:39 PM #6
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02-17-2018, 08:24 PM #10
Cultists following cult doctrine fk off with your fake rhetoric.
All your lies will cross your eyes.
No laws could of prevented what happened = is bullchit
Guns are the same as cars = so Much bullchit
Good guys with guns stops bad guys with guns =BULLCHIT
The tired Chicago bullchit
The Nation is so sick of all of it get ready because things are going to change as far as guns go and there’s nothing you can do about it.
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02-17-2018, 08:25 PM #11
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02-17-2018, 08:42 PM #15
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Doesn't matter gun control is going to happen eventually.
The only way it doesn't happen is if these massacres stop.
Whether or not it's effective is inconsequential. The younger generation will conclude that we are not doing enough. At least until the gun laws are addressed.
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02-17-2018, 08:48 PM #16
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02-17-2018, 09:15 PM #19
https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fv9311.pdf
Shootings in general declined in the mid 90s. The only bumps you see are in the black community. No racism, just facts. If you genuinely cared about reducing gun deaths, you would be interested in helping the communities that are disproportionately impacted by, and participating in, gun violence.This account was created for the purpose of roleplaying and satire. All posts, messages, images, or other media produced by this Bodybuilding.com profile, including stories, names, references to characters and incidents, and views expressed, are fictitious and intended as parody. No identification or association with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, or products is intended or should be inferred.
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02-17-2018, 09:49 PM #20
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02-17-2018, 10:16 PM #21
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Maybe you're right but it doesn't matter.
They could ban every single gun possible and I, along with millions of other people, will own whatever the fck gun I want if I spend the time to build it, research it, etc.
Also, 3d printing. The entire way of thinking of guns is going to be COMPLETELY different in 10-20 years when you can just print one at home. It's coming and no one is going to be able to stop it.
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02-17-2018, 11:05 PM #22
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Banning assault rifles would be a pointless and knee jerk reaction to the issue. You always have knee jerk reactions from both sides after a school shooting, one side immediately demands some form of gun control to somehow prevent further shootings the other immediately says it's nothing to do with guns but makes no attempt to find a solution to prevent an inevitable repeat incident a few weeks later. Neither responses are thought out rational responses, neither are meaningful in regards to finding a solution to a problem that is plaguing America.
America's gun control laws simply are not fit for purpose, they allow universal access to guns to anyone, to criminals, the mentally ill and terrorists. In fact you might as well scrap all gun control it does nothing, what little gun restrictions the US have are just a pretence at controlling guns as what laws there are to restrict purchases can easily be negated by a legal loop hole where privates sales take place where no checks are required.
Effective gun control is really the only solution, but is that even possible in the US? Gun advocates have said many times it won't end shootings, there are simply too many unregistered guns in the US. But I think it could reduce school shootings and even a reduction would be a success. Gun advocates love using absolutes to defend their position which is a dishonest and flawed argument. If tighter gun restrictions reduced the number of school shootings by even a small percentage in would be worth it, at least to those rational Americans that have lost children in these shootings or have children in schools who are all potential victims.
Gun control is the only solution to this problem as obviously more guns isn't the answer despite what gun advocates say. The statistics don't lie the more guns a country has the greater propensity towards gun crime. But the laws put in place would need to be effective unlike the current laws and not easily side stepped like now. The idea of just banning one gun type like OP suggested is quite frankly pointless and ineffective, one change alone would just be used as another example of gun control not working in the US when in reality it's just another example of ineffective gun control in the US.
But all this talk of gun control is pointless. Lets be real there is not enough desire from the US people to make the changes that would be required. And more importantly those in power really don't want the gun culture to change in anyway as it's such a useful tool to control people. The US has been sold a lie that guns equal freedom from possible oppression, when in reality US citizens right now are less free than they have been before for decades with governments infringing it's citizens rights through the patriot act, government bodies and corporations spying on the populace etc. The US ranks lower on the Human freedom index than countries like Australia and the UK which have draconian gun laws in comparison. But as long as you have access to guns you will happily allow further infringements on your personal rights as an individual, so there will always be a half hearted attempt to change gun laws which never bear fruit or have any real effect.
What we are seeing now is just rhetoric, the natural response now to trying to solve a problem the US does not actually care enough about to change anything. We'll be seeing the same response weeks from now after the next school shooting and once again nothing will change just like it hasn't for the hundreds of other school shootings. Anti-gun voices will demand ineffective changes to gun law while gun advocates will demand no changes, accepting that this is the price worth paying for the right to guns.Bench -216lbs
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02-18-2018, 01:18 AM #29
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02-18-2018, 01:21 AM #30
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The youth tend to be more liberal. Unless the underrage youth shift right, I just don't see that happening. All YOU can do is hope, because the trends ssy otherwise
And for those referring to the 2016 election. Think bigger. Each year 17 year olds turn 18. The 2016 election is a stupid argument in this context because youre assuming "all things equal" for 2020***Gender Non-Committed***
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