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    Is there a limit to how much diet soda I can drink? I love diet dr. Pepper and Diet Pepsi.
    Yes, artificial sweeteners are unhealthy and some (sucralose) may be as bad as sugar (or worse) especially when consumed in high amounts. I limit my consumption to no more than 1 drink/day. And then only after I break my fast.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Yes, artificial sweeteners are unhealthy and some (sucralose) may be as bad as sugar (or worse) especially when consumed in high amounts. I limit my consumption to no more than 1 drink/day. And then only after I break my fast.
    I wish scientists would go ahead and figure out once and for all whether or not sucralose and aspartame are bad for you. Some say bad; some say good; some say good in moderation. I don't want to drink it at all if it's bad for me. I am getting tired of only being able to drink water.
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    Originally Posted by ROARlions View Post
    I wish scientists would go ahead and figure out once and for all whether or not sucralose and aspartame are bad for you. Some say bad; some say good; some say good in moderation. I don't want to drink it at all if it's bad for me. I am getting tired of only being able to drink water.
    I see it like this: if its made in a laboratory then it can't be good. After all, you may think sugar (sucrose) is natural but its also a man-made product: it doesn't exist in nature.

    Even so, many aren't too damaging as long as they're taken in moderation and/or infrequently.

    Since we're on this topic, I would say that I'm pretty good at resisting most junk food or getting cravings (I've worked on it for years), but if I do feel the need, I simply cycle/walk to the gym/etc. to compensate for the added 60-150 calories or so. You need to walk a mile to burn approx. 100 cals.
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    Day 9 here. Just finished my last workout on this diet.... all my lifts are still the same, nothing has gone down! Das it brahs.

    Just 2 more days on PSMF and then a carb refeed... I'm so goddamn excited.

    So far I went from 196.6 lbs to 189.2 lbs at 6'3". I'll take pics in a few days if they turn out good... I'm pale as shiet so it's hard to see cuts/ definition sometimes in my pictures unless I'm in proper lighting.

    As far as the artificial sweeteners issue, I've been consuming quite a bit on this diet and I haven't noticed it negatively affect me. It's possible it may have hindered fat loss slightly, but since my lifts are the same (or improving in some regards), I'm not complaining.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Sounds like some of you aren't doing it right. You can't just pile on unlimited amount of food and think its all going to be assimilated in one sitting.

    Also, you should still be a little hungry. Anyway, good luck. Maybe it will work for you?


    First, that bag of broc**** is likely 3-4 servings. Second, acclamation. You'll get there and the rumbling will stop.

    Feeling better today day 5, still haven't weighed myself but starting weight was 186. I had about 55g of carbs yesterday tho all in broc****, cauliflower, psylium husk, and triple zero greek yogurt. All so I can get enough fiber to see if that's the problem and it seems like it was. There is no way you can remain at 20g of carbs or less a day and get a requisite amount of fiber. Hopefully, you're right and my body can adjust and deal with insufficient doses without insane abdominal cramping again. I'm sure the next time I dump is probably gonna be like 3 days from now but w/e.
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    Originally Posted by goodcupcakes View Post
    Feeling better today day 5, still haven't weighed myself but starting weight was 186. I had about 55g of carbs yesterday tho all in broc****, cauliflower, psylium husk, and triple zero greek yogurt. All so I can get enough fiber to see if that's the problem and it seems like it was. There is no way you can remain at 20g of carbs or less a day and get a requisite amount of fiber. Hopefully, you're right and my body can adjust and deal with insufficient doses without insane abdominal cramping again. I'm sure the next time I dump is probably gonna be like 3 days from now but w/e.
    I had no problem whatsoever with 1-2 servings of broc****, cauliflower or spinach per day. I buy Kroger 10/10 frozen vegetables. However, this is one of those areas where systems can differ greatly.

    One more thing, I didn't get on a scale for over 3 month. If there's one thing I learned from years of dieting is that the scale will mess with your head.
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    Started today, going with category 1.

    Day 1: 215.8lbs / 14.3% bf (omron handheld, just for approximation)

    Diet:
    1 can of tuna: 100 cal
    6 fat free cheese slices: 180 cal
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    + veggies and EC stack

    Tired of spinning the wheels and just want to do something strict for a bit.
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    Originally Posted by padrote View Post
    Started today, going with category 1.

    Day 1: 215.8lbs / 14.3% bf (omron handheld, just for approximation)

    Diet:
    1 can of tuna: 100 cal
    6 fat free cheese slices: 180 cal
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    1 cup egg whites: 130 cal
    1 grilled chicken cutlet: ~110 cal
    2 scoops casein protein: 240 cal

    + veggies and EC stack

    Tired of spinning the wheels and just want to do something strict for a bit.
    What is your goal?
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    I had no problem whatsoever with 1-2 servings of broc****, cauliflower or spinach per day. I buy Kroger 10/10 frozen vegetables. However, this is one of those areas where systems can differ greatly.

    One more thing, I didn't get on a scale for over 3 month. If there's one thing I learned from years of dieting is that the scale will mess with your head.

    I brought my carbs back down to 20g yesterday and 10g of fiber. I'll stick with it unless my stomach gets all fuked up again. I do the same with the Kroger veggies just because one bag I can microwave in the bag at work and eat half for lunch then bring it home and eat the rest for dinner and that is my veggies for the day. It makes it so you don't even have to think or measure.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    What is your goal?
    The ultimate goal is being able to see abs while unflexed, but for this i just want to see where i get in 12 days. Sort of a test.

    Day 2: 214lbs / 14.6% bf (looks like i'm losing water weight, which is part of lean body mass)

    Hunger wasn't too bad on the first day, had some trouble falling asleep but not that bad.
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    End of day 6. Something changed today, I have so much energy, I wasn't lethargic before but now I'm like high as a kite. I smashed my workout and hit a PR. It might be coincidence since I know I'm going on a 10 day vacation in a week and a half and my body is just now feeling the rush of that. But holeee fuk I'm flying.

    And I should've listened when whoever said not to use the scale. I stepped on today for the first time since starting and only lost 2.5lbs. WTF. But I look leaner or at least I think I do.
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    I don't think my brain can function under such deficit

    Do you guys drink lotsa coffee too

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    Went from 196 to 189. I'd probably have to do another PSMF cycle to get really shredded, but phuck that.... I'll try to recomp from here
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    Originally Posted by VolvoCEO View Post
    I don't think my brain can function under such deficit

    Do you guys drink lotsa coffee too

    Brb got sacked because appearing like a dummy in office

    You could always add in nootropics to bridge the gap. Some alpha gpc and a racetam and you'll be firing on all cylinders. I thought I would need em for sure but I haven't yet.
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    Done with PSMF brahs

    Day 1:

    [img]http://i.gyazo.com/0f65122e89132c9dfc51aade308c3e7f.png[img]

    Day 12:

    [img]http://i.gyazo.com/3441473c36bb130863f7f746052bd48f.png[img]


    Went from 196 to 189. I'd probably have to do another PSMF cycle to get really shredded, but phuck that.... I'll try to recomp from here


    Not bad, not brad. Were both pics post workout?
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    Not bad, not brad. Were both pics post workout?
    thanks man, just the second photo. I'm also utiliizing some serious downlighting lol
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    Originally Posted by SazabiBrah View Post
    Done with PSMF brahs

    Day 1:
    http://i.gyazo.com/0f65122e89132c9dfc51aade308c3e7f.png

    Day 12:
    http://i.gyazo.com/3441473c36bb130863f7f746052bd48f.png

    Went from 196 to 189. I'd probably have to do another PSMF cycle to get really shredded, but phuck that.... I'll try to recomp from here
    were you flexing in the before pic?

    if so that's INSANE progress wow. maybe that's standard for this thread cause I haven't read through it but gjdm
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    were you flexing in the before pic?

    if so that's INSANE progress wow. maybe that's standard for this thread cause I haven't read through it but gjdm
    Thank you brah! First pic was unpumped, but flexing.

    I haven't seen too many people post progress pics, but this will definitely be the only way I cut from now on
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    Just thinking about that little of calories makes me anxious. Do you guys feel any mental effect during this? In other words, at a mentally challenging job, would it be advised to cut in an alternative way.
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    Fuark tempted to get fast results to qualify for US military MEPS and meet the weight requirement

    How are you guys feeling with the cut as a whole? I ain't clicking through 58 fuarking pages srs
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    In for later. Only read this page but responses seem to be very positive.

    A super short cut?

    Just what I need tbh. Only have 5-7 lbs to lose to get shredded.
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    Originally Posted by SazabiBrah View Post
    Done with PSMF brahs

    Day 1:

    [img]http://i.gyazo.com/0f65122e89132c9dfc51aade308c3e7f.png[img]

    Day 12:

    [img]http://i.gyazo.com/3441473c36bb130863f7f746052bd48f.png[img]


    Went from 196 to 189. I'd probably have to do another PSMF cycle to get really shredded, but phuck that.... I'll try to recomp from here
    insane progress for 12 days everytime i see this thread bumped i get excited for when i will start my cut and try it out only 2.5 more months of bulking then time to get shredded
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    Originally Posted by SazabiBrah View Post
    Thank you brah! First pic was unpumped, but flexing.

    I haven't seen too many people post progress pics, but this will definitely be the only way I cut from now on
    ****ing looking good man! No homo...

    Originally Posted by IfeHearted View Post
    Just thinking about that little of calories makes me anxious. Do you guys feel any mental effect during this? In other words, at a mentally challenging job, would it be advised to cut in an alternative way.
    Mental Fortitude is needed as it sucks so much ass IMO plus I was tired most of the time when I did it. That really sucks when you have a 4 year old to chase around!

    Originally Posted by Gt3x24x7 View Post
    Fuark tempted to get fast results to qualify for US military MEPS and meet the weight requirement

    How are you guys feeling with the cut as a whole? I ain't clicking through 58 fuarking pages srs
    It sucks but it gets results.

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    In for later. Only read this page but responses seem to be very positive.

    A super short cut?

    Just what I need tbh. Only have 5-7 lbs to lose to get shredded.
    You probably have more than you think, honestly.
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    Originally Posted by BostonRockets View Post

    Just what I need tbh. Only have 5-7 lbs to lose to get shredded.
    Originally Posted by Jammer02xd View Post


    You probably have more than you think, honestly.
    so much this. unless you've actually been shredded before, EVERYONE underestimates how much they weight they have to lose.

    seems like this diet can help you on your way to your goals though. lets see some progress pics if you decide to try it out
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    Getting back on this, started yesterday. The results posted give me hope.
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    I forgot to post this earlier, but some important things I learned from this diet that might be useful for y'all:

    1) definitely learn at least a few recipes. It got old eating plain egg whites and lean turkey a few days into the diet

    2) Use the myfitnesspal app to keep track of cals and macros.

    3) It's definitely possible to maintain or even increase strength on this diet

    4) 5g glucose tabs and preworkouts (Mesomorph) help a ton with keeping intensity in the gym

    5) Along with Lyle's required supps on this diet (potassium, salt, magnesium and calcium) I also took 7 keto DHEA. Look up the research online with how useful this supp can be. Basically, it keeps your metabolism from slowing down during dieting and preserves muscle mass. This may have helped some with fat loss
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    Originally Posted by SSM12 View Post
    I've been intrigued with this for a while. But still getting noob gains on a regular cut so I'm sorta nervous about going that low
    then stick to what you're doing.
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    Originally Posted by Greg14 View Post
    so much this. unless you've actually been shredded before, EVERYONE underestimates how much they weight they have to lose.

    seems like this diet can help you on your way to your goals though. lets see some progress pics if you decide to try it out
    probably right, we'll see

    what is this about limiting regular black coffee due to caffeine but you can have unlimited decaf?
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