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    You're right. Let's rig the system to make sure that the party that is in a minority wins.

    I voted for Bernie.

    And lol at "importing" voters. Our country was built on immigrants. Their vote deserves to be counted.
    Our country was built on pre welfare state immigrants, entirely different ball game now with the incentives of free stuff.

    Your logic is exactly why the EC exists, you cannot just shuffle people from the east and west coast into the center of the country and expect their views to stay the same, Highly populated states with large metros should not and will not decide our elections by brute force of number of votes, this is the very reason the EC exists, why is that so hard to get?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Yet every campaign and candidate for more than two centuries has known the requirements to win a Presidential election - and it's never incolved the popular vote.

    Clinton lost the election, no amount of "but what if we used different rules?" will change that. Maybe next time around, the DNC won't run a suck-ass candidate.
    And no one is arguing about this election.

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    Originally Posted by T_O_N_Y View Post
    Our country was built on pre welfare state immigrants, entirely different ball game now with the incentives of free stuff.

    Your logic is exactly why the EC exists, you cannot just shuffle people from the east and west coast into the center of the country and expect their views to stay the same, Highly populated states with large metros should not and will not decide our elections by brute force of number of votes, this is the very reason the EC exists, why is that so hard to get?
    It's not hard to get lol. It's very easy to understand. But it needs to change, just like our forefathers intended things to.

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    Freaking liberal cry babies. It's not even all of you. One of my best friends since Junior high school is a Democrat and he laughs daily at you juvenile minded, limp wristed, slack jawed, low test window lickers.

    The Repubs win for a while..the Dems wins for a while. Seems to be that way. Get over it. Things aren't going to be drastically different under Trump. Damn. Everything will be fine.

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    Originally Posted by Forever20Plus3 View Post
    Is it due to the large number of illegals who voted for Hillary?

    Youre forgetting the dead people and institutionalized. And the no ID required to vote laws. Fake voter registration card could literally be printed on any $50 home printer. No holographs or anything on them.

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    Originally Posted by Motiviert View Post
    Freaking liberal cry babies. It's not even all of you. One of my best friends since Junior high school is a Democrat and he laughs daily at you juvenile minded, limp wristed, slack jawed, low test window lickers.

    The Repubs win for a while..the Dems wins for a while. Seems to be that way. Get over it. Things aren't going to be drastically different under Trump. Damn. Everything will be fine.

    None of you even lift.

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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Too bad the DNC didn't care about who the voters wanted, huh...?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Too bad the DNC didn't care about who the voters wanted, huh...?
    Strong post edit. I'm a registered Independent. I had no say in the primary.

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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    Future trumper detected in your friend.
    Could be. Who knows. We have been buds and had each other's back since Mrs. Lawrence's class. He is a successful college professor. He was a really big Bernie guy and is so disappointed in his party. He always claimed he had no idea why Hillary ever had a single supporter.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Too bad the DNC didn't care about who the voters wanted, huh...?

    Been patiently standing by for the last month for the outcry and protest for Donna Brazile to be fired. Im sure its just taking so long because theyre planning a massive demonstration at the DNC headquarters. Probably organizing grass roots funding to bus in these protestors because Soros aint paying for this one.

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    Originally Posted by Motiviert View Post
    Freaking liberal cry babies. It's not even all of you. One of my best friends since Junior high school is a Democrat and he laughs daily at you juvenile minded, limp wristed, slack jawed, low test window lickers.

    The Repubs win for a while..the Dems wins for a while. Seems to be that way. Get over it. Things aren't going to be drastically different under Trump. Damn. Everything will be fine.

    None of you even lift.
    Is this upsetting for you? "One of my best friends is a Democrat"... sounds like my "black friend".

    No one is contesting this election. Trump won - regardless of the latest vote recount news. Nothing will change that because we all agreed to the rules before the election. But it's time to change the rules to truly represent the people's will.

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Is this upsetting for you? "One of my best friends is a Democrat"... sounds like my "black friend".

    No one is contesting this election. Trump won - regardless of the latest vote recount news. Nothing will change that because we all agreed to the rules before the election. But it's time to change the rules to truly represent the people's will.
    Throw in mandatory voting, too?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Is this upsetting for you? "One of my best friends is a Democrat"... sounds like my "black friend".

    No one is contesting this election. Trump won - regardless of the latest vote recount news. Nothing will change that because we all agreed to the rules before the election. But it's time to change the rules to truly represent the people's will.
    No dude. It's upsetting that our country is so divided. You're not exactly helping. I seriously think you are racist man. Why even bring up race? I live in an extremely primarily Republican area. Not many Dems around. But he is sensible unlike some Repubs and Dems seem to be. Just wish we could all come together. That's all dude
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Is this upsetting for you? "One of my best friends is a Democrat"... sounds like my "black friend".

    No one is contesting this election. Trump won - regardless of the latest vote recount news. Nothing will change that because we all agreed to the rules before the election. But it's time to change the rules to truly represent the people's will.
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    Originally Posted by Motiviert View Post
    No dude. It's upsetting that our country is so divided. You're not exactly helping. I seriously think you are racist man. Why even bring up race? I live in an extremely primarily Republican area. Not many Dems around. But he is sensible unlike some Repubs and Dems seem to be. Just wish we could all come together. That's all dude
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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    Throw in mandatory voting, too?
    No. I have the right to bear arms but that doesn't mean I should be forced to.

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    Im sure its been stated by the ec vote is so that LA, CHI, and NYC dont make decisions for the entire country. Once a candidate gets the necessary EC votes they stop counting votes. Early write ins arent counted, a lot of votes are left on the table so there isn't a definite guarantee she actually did win the popular vote. She did win it at at the time the ec decided.

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    Originally Posted by Motiviert View Post
    No dude. It's upsetting that our country is so divided. You're not exactly helping. I seriously think you are racist man. Why even bring up race? I live in an extremely primarily Republican area. Not many Dems around. But he is sensible unlike some Repubs and Dems seem to be. Just wish we could all come together. That's all dude
    Lol at calling me racist. Your post sounds just like the guy who says he's not racist because he has a black friend. Thinking about Democrats in that way is what divides us. I appreciate your last two sentences.

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    NYPat, what are you suggesting as a solution for a removal of the electoral college? A legitimate popular vote, where one person = one vote?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    No. I have the right to bear arms but that doesn't mean I should be forced to.
    It's more like mandatory participation. You have to at least show up (but you don't have to vote for anyone), otherwise you can't vote again until you pay a $30 fine.

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Lol at calling me racist. Your post sounds just like the guy who says he's not racist because he has a black friend. Thinking about Democrats in that way is what divides us. I appreciate your last two sentences.
    Man stop. What I'm saying is this guy and I have alot of polar opposite beliefs. But we still get along. Not just get along but love to chill and have never let political ideals separate us.

    Look I apologize for calling you racist. I know you aren't Pat. But not all of us. Repubs are either. Hell I'm a southern conservative and I'm not racist. Just want libs to know not all of us are ass backwards racist.
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    Sometimes I just want to throw **** at the tv.
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    Originally Posted by Motiviert View Post
    Look I apologize for calling you racist. I know you aren't Pat. But not all of us. Repubs are either. Hell I'm a southern conservative and I'm not racist. Just want libs to know not all of us are ass backwards racist.
    Don't cower like that ffs. That's what they want, and accusations of racism is the club they use to get you to do it.

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    Lol at calling me racist. Your post sounds just like the guy who says he's not racist because he has a black friend. Thinking about Democrats in that way is what divides us.
    Lot of racists have black friends huh..

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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Dumb analogy. And every other political race is decided by popular vote so it only makes sense that the presidential race should be different.
    The Presidential race IS decided by the popular vote. The popular vote of individual states.... guess who won the popular vote in over 30 states? So this whole idea that the EC is broke is funny. Its only broke because you all lost.

    You ppl need to remember that we are a union of states. States have a right to vote who they think would best represent them as their POTUS. And thats why we use a statewide popular vote over a nation wide one. And yea, we dont know how many of those ppl who voted hillary were dead ppl and illegals.

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    I haven't read the thread but Trump won something like 3000 out of 3100 counties. Can't remember the exact numbers. The map is almost completely red. This is exactly why the electoral college system exists. Before the election I thought it should be by popular vote, thank fuk there are people a lot smarter than me making the decisions.

    You can't have 2 or 3 states deciding what's right for the entire country because they have huge populations. That's absolutely ridiculous.

    'he's not my president, he doesn't represent me' - so you want Hillary, who 90% of of the country voted against? Logic, not even once.

    The hypocrisy from the left truly knows no bounds, imagine if this was the other way around. Trump and his supporters would be ridiculed by everyone, especially the media.

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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    I haven't read the thread but Trump won something like 3000 out of 3100 counties. Can't remember the exact numbers. The map is almost completely red. This is exactly why the electoral college system exists. Before the election I thought it should be by popular vote, thank fuk there are people a lot smarter than me making the decisions.

    You can't have 2 or 3 states deciding what's right for the entire country because they have huge populations. That's absolutely ridiculous.

    'he's not my president, he doesn't represent me' - so you want Hillary, who 90% of of the country voted against? Logic, not even once.

    The hypocrisy from the left truly knows no bounds, imagine if this was the other way around. Trump and his supporters would be ridiculed by everyone, especially the media.
    The map = land. Not people.

    Let me ask you this, if the popular vote is so terrible and large cities shouldn't get to decide the winner, why are state senators elected this way? NYC determines everything in my state. But when I look at a county map of NY, it's almost all red. But this is fine right?

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