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    Aminos/BCAAs...........

    I have been considering adding Aminos and/or BCAAs into my supplement list. Currently right now all I take is PWO, Creatine Mono and Protein powder as needed. I do eat a lot of chicken, ground turkey, fish and lean pork. Red meat on occasion.

    Would adding Aminos in to my stack really benefit that much or is it an added expense for not much of a return. Any brands you would suggest??
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    BCAA's are quite honestly entirely unnecessary if you're getting enough protein in through the day. The only time you might benefit is if you are training fasted or in a deficit. Not worth the money unless in one of the two situations I mentioned, and even then, debatable
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    Do you train fasted? Are you cutting right now?

    If the answer to those questions is no, then I wouldn't buy it.

    If you train fasted, they may be helpful. Some people find that they retain more mass on a cut with them, but it sounds like you get plenty of protein, so you'd be find just saving the cash.
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    if you are training fasted or plan to they are a good addition to your stack.
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    I would look at rounding off your supplement stack with the basics before adding anything new. The basics are a multi, fish oil, creatine, and protein powder. You have 2 of 4 taken care of. I'd add the multi and fish oil before anything else.

    BCAA's can be beneficial when training fasted, several hours between meals, and while in a calorie deficit.
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    Originally Posted by KGonzo23 View Post
    I have been considering adding Aminos and/or BCAAs into my supplement list. Currently right now all I take is PWO, Creatine Mono and Protein powder as needed. I do eat a lot of chicken, ground turkey, fish and lean pork. Red meat on occasion.

    Would adding Aminos in to my stack really benefit that much or is it an added expense for not much of a return. Any brands you would suggest??
    Added expense for you without any benefit. It sounds like your protein intake is where it needs to be and you're getting enough BCAA's per meal.
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    I train 3 days out of my 6 days a week entirely fasted (6am). The other 3 I train at night so I have eaten throughout the day. I currently cutting though. Have been for quite sometime now. Trying to lose this last 15 pounds or so but its been a hassle. Im contemplating taking a break from the deficit for a little while and eating at maintenance.
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    The posts above hit it, if you're not training fasted and/or in a caloric deficit you won't reap the full benefits of them. But, then again, it won't hurt.
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    Originally Posted by KGonzo23 View Post
    I train 3 days out of my 6 days a week entirely fasted (6am). The other 3 I train at night so I have eaten throughout the day. I currently cutting though. Have been for quite sometime now. Trying to lose this last 15 pounds or so but its been a hassle. Im contemplating taking a break from the deficit for a little while and eating at maintenance.
    Sounds like they may help you imo.
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    BCAA's are beneficial when used in a fasted state and in between meal on a consistent basis.
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    If you're going to take BCAA's, you need an absolute minimum of 6g of free form BCAA to see any sort of benefit. Keep that in mind when purchasing.
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    I tend to train fasted and do notice a difference, especially when on a cut. U can always try a tub out and see if u notice a difference. Id recommend scivation, bpi, or kaged muscle
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    Originally Posted by Mike McCandless View Post
    If you're going to take BCAA's, you need an absolute minimum of 6g of free form BCAA to see any sort of benefit. Keep that in mind when purchasing.

    Free form......

    Can you explain?
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    Originally Posted by KGonzo23 View Post
    Free form......

    Can you explain?
    as in l- luecine, l- isoluecine, l- valine by themselves
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    Originally Posted by hazelaero5 View Post
    as in l- luecine, l- isoluecine, l- valine by themselves

    Duh.....

    6g of each?
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    Originally Posted by KGonzo23 View Post
    Duh.....

    6g of each?
    i believe he was refering to 6g total
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    Originally Posted by KGonzo23 View Post
    Free form......

    Can you explain?
    One of the best selling BCAA ( BPI ) uses a peptide bonded BCAA which yields maybe a third of what would be considered effacicious dose.

    But he can't say that directly so he says free form. Means full dose, actual aminos.

    Either way, you're getting enough protein and don't need a BCAA
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    Peptide bound BCAA's are less than 1/2 active. Meaning 4g of Peptide BCAA would yield less than 2g of actual BCAA.
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    Sounds like the verdict is not needed if Im eating enough protiens and proper whole foods
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    Originally Posted by KGonzo23 View Post
    Sounds like the verdict is not needed if Im eating enough protiens and proper whole foods
    I'd second this. If you're getting enough from your protein and whole food an amino acid product isn't necessary. However I love the taste of intra amino so i drink it for flavor in my water and to make sure i get all my aminos every day.
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    Originally Posted by hustlehard3r View Post
    BCAA's are quite honestly entirely unnecessary if you're getting enough protein in through the day. The only time you might benefit is if you are training fasted or in a deficit. Not worth the money unless in one of the two situations I mentioned, and even then, debatable
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    When bulking, I don't really rely on aminos all to much except when I get the 6g from my post workout Finish Line shake. If your protein intake is adequate, save your bcaas for a time when you are without a meal for a while. Regardless of what people say in terms of effectiveness though, I will continue to keep my BCAAs in my diet, I feel as if it makes a difference.

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