Driverless cars could cripple law enforcement.

[holtmcg]

I wanna see it in action against sudden changes. Lets say for example someone in front suddenly brakes to a complete stop, or a driver cuts it off, swerve towards it or other possible causes of accidents. Idk if theres a vid in this thread, work blocks all videos and most images on here

There are videos showing it in action against sudden instances of traffic.

[GDPONE]

It's hilarious until robots take your job.

lol.

seriously though, humans are going to go through a MASSIVE adjustment in the next 100 years when computers literally start to do EVERYTHING for us. no one will have a job. Not even computer technicians because there will be a robot for that, too.

read this book:

**** yea star trek time. Space ... the final frontier.

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

tens of millions of americans put out of work?

lol wut? A few would lose their jobs, but for every lost job would be a new position available for someone to work in the new driverless car industry. hundreds of new tech and auto companies would form. software jobs increase. sales jobs increase. technicians, manufacturers, designers, marketing. etc etc.

It would be a massive increase to american productivity and wealth.

then the next week, all those jobs are taken by a new robot.

Artificial intelligence will OUTLEARN, OUTPERFORM, OUTSMART every human in every job.

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

**** yea star trek time. Space ... the final frontier.

the robots will go explore space without us.

at best we will be a zoo exhibit to them (the robots).

[GDPONE]

the robots will go explore space without us.

at best we will be a zoo exhibit to them (the robots).

Nah. Those robots will have never seen the likes of such nerd rage if they try and prevent us from going to space.

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Nah. Those robots will have never seen the likes of such nerd rage if they try and prevent us from going to space.

that would be like you happily bringing an ant with you to the park.

[Jellymerlin]

actually they are mad they can't beat an ai senseless

came in to rep this man. God damn so much this.

[Insanity_SC]

actually most likely since you are legally required to have it, liability insurance would reduce but not as much as you think.
the craziest though is that now you may have to purchase "cyber car" insurance incase someone hacks it/etc.
it'll be a big thing for 18wheeler transportation companies and such.
so no matter what the insurance companies will be a-okay because it changes from property damage TO cyber attack insuracne.



this is wrong. you could literally automate all of McDonalds process.
it's not a one to one relationship.
one software engineer can perform ALL the coding for all *insert*.
a handful of technicians which work on a "as it breaks" system can maintain them all.
it's like a one to 25 ratio.

It's more than a 1 to 1 relationship. There are FAR MORE jobs needed to create a driverless car industry than would be displaced by the advancement.

It's like a 5 to 1 relationship. One software engineer perform all the coding for product that displaces an industry? Riiiiggght. Driverless cars alone would employ more MARKETING and SALES personnel than the entire driving industry (taxis, traffic enforcement, whatever other jobs would be displaced).

Then there is the MASSIVE wealth and productivity increase because of the new industry. new jobs in other industries made possible because of the creation of new capital and higher productivity for everyone. businesses that were not otherwise economically feasible become possible.

Your ideas were debunked in the Wealth of Nations. Here is a summary: http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-.../chap07p1.html

then the next week, all those jobs are taken by a new robot.

Artificial intelligence will OUTLEARN, OUTPERFORM, OUTSMART every human in every job.

Self replicating AI is an entirely different subject. It has no carry over to technological innovation and employment structure.

[Jesse_l_g]

You don't understand, ROBOTS WILL DO EVERYTHING. there literally won't be an economy because every single thing is going to be done for you.

your car will drive itself to the grocery store, get your groceries from another robot, take them to self checkout, bring it back to you. no jobs in that whole circuit.

surgeons are already getting replaced by more accurate robots.

It's crazy.

companies like UPS will have automatically driving trucks for all your retail needs, you won't need to leave your home.

Everyday I see someone working and think to myself "how much longer before that job is gone too".

cashiers are getting closer to extinct every year.

Calm down bro. When written language was invented people literally thought we wouldn't be able to remember things anymore because everyone would just write thoughts down. People are scared of the unknown. People have worried about every new technological advancement from the beginning of time. Sure each one comes with downsides and risks but every singe time they have improved peoples lives. Technology make people more productive and gives people more free time to explore their creativity.

That said. Have you heard about the idea of the "singularity."

[DaPlasurNDaPain]

How is it going to "cripple" them? Police might have their salaries cut by $500 per month or something like that. The numbers in that article are a complete joke. 300k per officer? What are these people smoking?

There won't be any crippling, but may be there will be 100,000 + lives saved every year through less car accidents.

[DontHateNate]

Brb cheeky Kents hacking driverless car
Brb door locks
Brb drives off cliff/into traffic/into lake



Brb death


No thnx jeff

[Jellymerlin]

Umm, most of the money from a citation doesn't go to law enforcement. It goes to funding for all kinds of different things. Education, conservation movements, etc.

new cars every year
new weapons every year
new tanks
new armored vehicles

[holtmcg]

How is it going to "cripple" them? Police might have their salaries cut by $500 per month or something like that. The numbers in that article are a complete joke. 300k per officer? What are these people smoking?

There won't be any crippling, but may be there will be 100,000 + lives saved every year through less car accidents.

If these come around, it'll make a massive difference in public service. Massive. And police are already paid too high IMO, they should have their salaries cut more (serious).

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Calm down bro. When written language was invented people literally thought we wouldn't be able to remember things anymore because everyone would just write thoughts down. People are scared of the unknown. People have worried about every new technological advancement from the beginning of time. Sure each one comes with downsides and risks but every singe time they have improved peoples lives. Technology make people more productive and gives people more free time to explore their creativity.

That said. Have you heard about the idea of the "singularity."

yes. The adjustment is going to be extremely difficult and FAST.

on one hand, after AI is invented we could all be as wealthy as the billionaires of today, and none of us will need to work.

but on the other hand, getting society to go away from buying/selling, or providing service anymore for anything.... EVERYTHING we know will be gone. As soon as you think you have a creative idea, you realize that a robot has thought of that 30 years ago already.

the most innovative people of our time would be forced/discouraged to just "exist" in a world ruled by AI.

[frankenstein78]

Well, I guess it's time for cops to actually do real police work, rather than hand out useless tickets and pointless drug raids.

Sounds good. I'm all for cops actually solving real crimes, not fining people for victimless crimes.
Double their starting salaries, increase education requirements, lay off at least half the average force

[holtmcg]

Sounds good. I'm all for cops actually solving real crimes, not fining people for victimless crimes.
Double their starting salaries, increase education requirements, lay off at least half the average force

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edit: and I do agree with the education requirement. You should have AT LEAST a bachelors degree to work as an officer. Not military experience, not 40 hours with a 2.0 GPA, etc... A bachelors degree.

[BioDiver]

Cops will still have jobs, it's not like driverless cars will become compulsory, nor will they replace every current car on the road.

[userofpeace1111]

That is not "the cops". That is your local legislature. An anonymous tip doesn't get anyone into a house. Youre doing it wrong. I wish I could write you a ticket for your dumbassery right meow.

Yes, the legislature determines what the laws are. However, police officers have wide discretion in enforcing the law. Don't act like it is 100% on the legislature.

You state might have more restrictive rules on search warrants obtained from an anonymous tip, but the U.S. Supreme Court has held that anonymous tips can be used to obtain a search warrant so long as the magistrate, when considering the totality of the circumstances, "has a substantial basis for concluding that a search would uncover evidence of wrongdoing." Illinois v. Gates, 462 U.S. 213 (1983).

[Jesse_l_g]

yes. The adjustment is going to be extremely difficult and FAST.

on one hand, after AI is invented we could all be as wealthy as the billionaires of today, and none of us will need to work.

but on the other hand, getting society to go away from buying/selling, or providing service anymore for anything.... EVERYTHING we know will be gone. As soon as you think you have a creative idea, you realize that a robot has thought of that 30 years ago already.

the most innovative people of our time would be forced/discouraged to just "exist" in a world ruled by AI.

Dude. We are going to reemerge with the stars. I like to think this is what humanity has always been working towards. Like ants building an ant hill but over a very long period of time. We are the lucky generation that gets to see it happen. Its fuking awesome.

[eternalone423]

actually they are mad they can't beat an ai senseless

lol

[BioDiver]

Why would anyone want more AI? Did we learn nothing?

[Arkileon]

If the police were really about protecting the public and increasing safety they would back this 100%. Unfortunately, the police largely exist as a fundraising mechanism for the municipality and this puts a huge dent in their ability to rob drivers senseless.

People like to maximize profits received for their efforts


It's disgusting

[maxt3stlevels]

**** 12 all cops are bastards

[hewhodar3s]

The UK will be allowing driverless cars on the road next year...will be interesting to see what happens with that

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Dude. We are going to reemerge with the stars. I like to think this is what humanity has always been working towards. Like ants building an ant hill but over a very long period of time. We are the lucky generation that gets to see it happen. Its fuking awesome.

It MIGHT be fuking awesome. But ask yourself this: do you try and explain your thoughts to an earthworm? Is that worth your time?

That is what we will be to AI. For them to take the time to teach us their discoveries would be awesome, but I don't see that happening lol....

[NukeDukem]

curious to know how self driving cars will impact car insurance companies. would the vehicle owner be liable if the car malfunctions causing a wreck?

Insurance companies would certainly stage some famouse faked "malfunctions" to put the shadow of doubt into peoples' heads to protect their $200 Billion industry. It'll probably be a Google schoolbus full of kindergartners.

[jwlee7ucla]

Are you retarded? Farm equipment is still operated by humans.

so will cars.

[Jesse_l_g]

That is not "the cops". That is your local legislature. An anonymous tip doesn't get anyone into a house. Youre doing it wrong. I wish I could write you a ticket for your dumbassery right meow.

Who actually commits the crimes and enforces the "laws?"

[frankenstein78]

That is not "the cops". That is your local legislature. An anonymous tip doesn't get anyone into a house. Youre doing it wrong. I wish I could write you a ticket for your dumbassery right meow.

Yes, some of it is local legislatures, and it's up to cops to enforce those. There will still be 'meter maid' cops and there will be the functional equivalent for petty things, to increase revenues. BRB, flick a cigarette while walking down a sidewalk and the plain clothes litter cop comes over and scans your face to identify you, then hands you a $100 ticket. All done in 60 seconds. Security camera sees people stumbling out of bars who are loud. BRB, they all get $200 fines in the mail. I'm aware an anonymous tip doesn't get cops into a house LEGALLY, but look at the direction of the last 13 years. I wouldn't be so sure the Constitution won't be pissed on ever more.

[Lostsince92]

I hope traditional cars never become obsolete. Just make public transportation better for people who don't care for cars. and let the car lovers enjoy the open roads.