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[AA43560]

Hezbollah>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>IDF

[AA43560]

You can't retaliate against jews?

A zionist? I simply believe they're culturally, technologically and socially superior to the bottom of the barrel culture in arab countries, and that they are waging an assault on freedom and the modern world.

Funny Lebanese sources claim 700 of the 1100 were militants... Nearly every other source says 500-600 were militants. Of all those militants, nearly all of them hid among civilians in true arab fashion.

It appears you have one country on me, i've been to all but Syria. Its funny how arabs hate to do business with other arabs, they just dont trust each other so they bring in westerners, and they all want protection from other arabs, not israelis.. All the problems are within. They silently hope for Israel not to hold back on Hamas, go full force regardless of casualties. Hamas, Hezbollah, Isis, they all terrify the leaders of the places you've been to because they build from within.

Meanwhile Israelis consultants move around *****, Qatar, Saudi Jordan, you name it.It seems like they trust jews when it counts, more than their people. Alot of under the table cooperation. Jews and Israelis in reality are the least of their problems.

For our culture being "bottom of the barrel", the israelis sure do love stealing our food and claiming it as their own.


Israelis have no "culture". What they have is arab culture they brought back from their original arab countries and a generic western mcdonalds culture. Then again, i cant blame them. Its hard to develop a culture if you only have from 1948 to work with.

[Tha big kahoona]

Hard to tell when militants hide among civilians and pretend to be them. They clearly dont care about "civilians".


Fault of the Israeli government? Or is it Hezbollah tactics that put civilians at risk?

Funny thing is that according to jnternational observers and the UN, the idf has been caught using human shields on 14 seperate occasions.

[Merretto]

For our culture being "bottom of the barrel", the israelis sure do love stealing our food and claiming it as their own.


Israelis have no "culture". What they have is arab culture they brought back from their original arab countries and a generic western mcdonalds culture. Then again, i cant blame them. Its hard to develop a culture if you only have from 1948 to work with.

I've seen Israel, there are forests where there werent any, they have world leading irrigation technology, they have literally made the ****hole you call home bloom.

Israelis stealing your food? lol

Typical mentality, blame the world for all your failures.

They have contributed to the world and your culture has not.

Well that's not true, i love nearly everything about lebanon, but your people are useless and so is most of the middle east.

The only thing the middle east has really contributed tot eh world recently is hatred and blood (and some beans here and there).

[Merretto]

Funny thing is that according to jnternational observers and the UN, the idf has been caught using human shields on 14 seperate occasions.

i would believe it. They are a product of their environment, a world of $hit, but they dont do it as a policy.

Unlike hezbollah. Human shielding is rewarded by most arab militants, its punished by israelis.

[Tha big kahoona]

I've seen Israel, there are forests where there werent any, they have world leading irrigation technology, they have literally made the ****hole you call home bloom.

Israelis stealing your food? lol

Typical mentality, blame the world for all your failures.

They have contributed to the world and your culture has not.

Well that's not true, i love nearly everything about lebanon, but your people are useless.

Dunno man, a few nobel laureates, the richest man alive, the greatest living chemist, the best heart surgeon the world has known and about a billion other examples I can think of....but yeah we're useless

[Merretto]

Dunno man, a few nobel laureates, the richest man alive, the greatest living chemist, the best heart surgeon the world has known and about a billion other examples I can think of....but yeah we're useless

Not accurate Not accurate Not accurate and Not accurate

Best heart surgeon in the world is from Brazil

Of the two richest men alive, one is from the US one is from Mexico

There are a grand total 19 nobel laureates from the middle east. 12 of which are from Israel. 1 of the remaining was a laureate for something else other than Peace or literature.



To put this in perspective Israel represents 2% of the population of the middle east yet houses 63% of it's Laureates.



Of the WORLD's 5 top Chemists. 4 are American, 1 is Austrian. If you are referring to Omar Yaghi, he is from the middle east, however, he did most of high school and his entire tertiary education and Career in the US. He is not the world's top chemist in any case, but a brilliant mind none the less.

Please give me more examples.

Real ones though

[Tha big kahoona]

Not accurate Not accurate Not accurate and Not accurate

Best heart surgeon in the world is from Brazil

Of the two richest men alive, one is from the US one is from Mexico

There are a grand total 18 nobel laureates from the middle east. 19 if you count turkey.. 12 of which are from Israel. 1 of the remaining was a laureate for something else other than Peace or literature.



To put this in perspective Israel represents 2% of the population of the middle east yet houses 67% of it's Laureates.



Of the WORLD's 5 top Chemists. 4 are American, 1 is Austrian. If you are referring to Omar Yaghi, he is from the middle east, however, he did most of high school and his entire tertiary education and Career in the US. He is not the world's top chemist in any case, but a brilliant mind none the less.

Please give me more examples.

Real ones though

yiu idiot I'm not comparing the middle east to israel. My post was about lebanon, because you brought up lebanon. Be a little consistent

The mexican is of lebanese origin. His name is lebanese.

Heart surgeon is michael dabaghi. Chemist is elias corey. Head on over to wikipedia

I'll help you with michael dabaghi's honors:

Lifetime Achievement Awards from the Academy of Medical Films
American Heart Association (AHA)
Children Uniting Nations
Encyclopædia Britannica
Foundation for Biomedical Research
International College of Angiology
International Health and Medical Film Festival
Honorary Director of Research!America
Tulane Medical Alumni Association
U.S. Army Legion of Merit (1945)
American Medical Association Hektoen Gold Medal (1954 and 1970)
Rudolph Matas Award in Vascular Surgery (1954)
International Society of Surgery Distinguished Service Award (1958)
Leriche Award (1959)
American Medical Association Distinguished Service Award (1959)
Albert Lasker Award for Clinical Medical Research (1963)
American Medical Association Billings Gold Medal Exhibit Award (1967)
American Heart Association Gold Heart Award (1968)
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Academy of Sciences 50th Anniversary Jubilee Medal (1973)
Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Foreign Member (1974)
Veterans of Foreign Wars Commander-in-Chief’s Medal and Citation (1980)
American Surgical Association Distinguished Service Award (1981)
Admiral of the Texas Navy
Academy of Surgical Research Markowitz Award (1988)
Association of American Medical Colleges Special Recognition Award (1988)
Honorary Doctorate of Science from Universidad Francisco Marroquin [4] (1989)
American Legion Distinguished Service Award (1990)
Honorary President of the International Society for Rotary Blood Pumps (1992)
Special Award for Space Technology Utilization (1997)[31]
Premio Giuseppe Corradi Award for Surgery and Scientific Research (1997)
Russian Military Medical Academy, Boris Petrovsky International Surgeons Award and First Laureate of the Boris Petrovsky Gold Medal (1997)
Grau de Grande Oficial da Ordem de Santiago de Espada, Portugal, 1998
Scientific Achievement Award of The American Association for Thoracic Surgery (1999)
John P. McGovern Compleat Physician Award (1999)
Russian Academy of Sciences Foreign Member (1999)
Texas Senate and House of Representatives, Adoption of resolutions honoring DeBakey for 50 years of medical practice in Texas (1999)
American Medical Association Virtual Mentor Award (2000)
American Philosophical Society Jonathan Rhoads Medal (2000)
Library of Congress Bicentennial Living Legend Award (2000)
Villanova University Mendel Medal Award (2001)
Houston Hall of Fame (2001)
NASA Invention of the Year Award (2001)
MUSC Lindbergh-Carrel Prize (2002)[32]
Lomonosov Large Gold Medal, Russian Academy of Sciences (2003) [33]
Congressional Gold Medal (April 23, 2008)
First person ever to lie in state in the Houston City Hall Rotunda
The Denton A. Cooley Leadership Award (January 21, 2009)

[bcop]

I was referring to hizballah as a guerrilla group not the idf...

and no, that's not what started the war. Israel has been holding lebanese civilians captive since it withdrew from the south in 2000. The refused to let them go, so in a bid to create a prisoner exchange, hizballah captured 2 soldiers. Note that they could have captured civilians, but they did not.

End result? Prisoner exchange. Not all the prisiners were civilians, but many were

Just because they wanted a prisoner exchange, does not give them the right to kill, injure, or kidnap other soldiers who were not threatening them. Hezbollah started the war. Even they don't deny it.

[Tha big kahoona]

Just because they wanted a prisoner exchange, does not give them the right to kill, injure, or kidnap other soldiers who were not threatening them. Hezbollah started the war. Even they don't deny it.

Ut israel has the right to kidnap and imprison civilians indefinitely?

[bcop]

Hezbollah>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>IDF

I understand that you are no fan of Israel, but you can't be serious. Without the UN to protect them, Israel could destroy all of Hezbollah in one week.

For our culture being "bottom of the barrel", the israelis sure do love stealing our food and claiming it as their own.


Israelis have no "culture". What they have is arab culture they brought back from their original arab countries and a generic western mcdonalds culture. Then again, i cant blame them. Its hard to develop a culture if you only have from 1948 to work with.

First off, let me start by saying that I do not consider your culture (at least the non jihadi parts of it) "bottom of the barrel".

Israeli culture is complicated to define. The founders of Israel were mostly irreligious Jews, who adopted western culture as their own. Religious Jews, who have a very rich, ancient culture, were also there at the beginning, and their numbers are growing faster now than non religious Jews. And they contribute to the culture as well.

So while "Zionist" culture is very young, Jewish culture is very old. And they are both present is what is termed "Israeli Culture".

[bcop]

Ut israel has the right to kidnap and imprison civilians indefinitely?

When Hezbollah started the war, they demanded the release of four prisoners. Wikipedia has entries for three of them. Read about them and tell me if they sound like "civilians" to you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samir_K...Hijack_attempt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasim_Nisr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahya_Skaf

[Merretto]

yiu idiot I'm not comparing the middle east to israel. My post was about lebanon, because you brought up lebanon. Be a little consistent

The mexican is of lebanese origin. His name is lebanese.

Heart surgeon is michael dabaghi. Chemist is elias corey. Head on over to wikipedia

I'll help you with michael dabaghi's honors:

Lifetime Achievement Awards from the Academy of Medical Films
American Heart Association (AHA)
Children Uniting Nations
Encyclopædia Britannica
Foundation for Biomedical Research
International College of Angiology
International Health and Medical Film Festival
Honorary Director of Research!America
Tulane Medical Alumni Association
U.S. Army Legion of Merit (1945)
American Medical Association Hektoen Gold Medal (1954 and 1970)
Rudolph Matas Award in Vascular Surgery (1954)
International Society of Surgery Distinguished Service Award (1958)
Leriche Award (1959)
American Medical Association Distinguished Service Award (1959)
Albert Lasker Award for Clinical Medical Research (1963)
American Medical Association Billings Gold Medal Exhibit Award (1967)
American Heart Association Gold Heart Award (1968)
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Academy of Sciences 50th Anniversary Jubilee Medal (1973)
Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Foreign Member (1974)
Veterans of Foreign Wars Commander-in-Chief’s Medal and Citation (1980)
American Surgical Association Distinguished Service Award (1981)
Admiral of the Texas Navy
Academy of Surgical Research Markowitz Award (1988)
Association of American Medical Colleges Special Recognition Award (1988)
Honorary Doctorate of Science from Universidad Francisco Marroquin [4] (1989)
American Legion Distinguished Service Award (1990)
Honorary President of the International Society for Rotary Blood Pumps (1992)
Special Award for Space Technology Utilization (1997)[31]
Premio Giuseppe Corradi Award for Surgery and Scientific Research (1997)
Russian Military Medical Academy, Boris Petrovsky International Surgeons Award and First Laureate of the Boris Petrovsky Gold Medal (1997)
Grau de Grande Oficial da Ordem de Santiago de Espada, Portugal, 1998
Scientific Achievement Award of The American Association for Thoracic Surgery (1999)
John P. McGovern Compleat Physician Award (1999)
Russian Academy of Sciences Foreign Member (1999)
Texas Senate and House of Representatives, Adoption of resolutions honoring DeBakey for 50 years of medical practice in Texas (1999)
American Medical Association Virtual Mentor Award (2000)
American Philosophical Society Jonathan Rhoads Medal (2000)
Library of Congress Bicentennial Living Legend Award (2000)
Villanova University Mendel Medal Award (2001)
Houston Hall of Fame (2001)
NASA Invention of the Year Award (2001)
MUSC Lindbergh-Carrel Prize (2002)[32]
Lomonosov Large Gold Medal, Russian Academy of Sciences (2003) [33]
Congressional Gold Medal (April 23, 2008)
First person ever to lie in state in the Houston City Hall Rotunda
The Denton A. Cooley Leadership Award (January 21, 2009)

First of all read what i wrote about lebanon. You clearly didnt read it correctly.

Second... LOL

Michael Debaghi AKA Michael DeBakey. Was born in America and Died in America. His life quite literally had absolutely nothing to do with the middle east. He's just as american as everyone else born in america.

Corey, another man who has nothing to do with the middle east. Was born in America. I am of Russian and Irish decent. My genetics have not taught me anything in regards to what i do, i am of Canadian culture as i was born and raised here. My Achievements are not Irish achievements nore are they Russian achievements, they are Canadian achievements.

Genetics arent in question here, the culture and society in the middle east is. I never doubted lebanese genetics. Genetically none of these people are inferior or superior. It's the culture and mentality that hold them back. ( not really in Lebanon)

Do you Consider Mohammed Ali's Boxing achievements to be related in any way to Madagascar? Where half of his family is from?

[Tha big kahoona]

Clearly jelly of our alpha genetics

[Merretto]

Clearly jelly of our alpha genetics

You should be defensive of your reading comprehension, not your people or genetics.

What i said in response to AA43560 about the middle east

They have contributed to the world and your culture has not.

Well that's not true, i love nearly everything about lebanon, but your people are useless and so is most of the middle east.

AA43560 is not lebanese

Your genetics are alot of things, Lebanese are more mixed than any middle eastern country. You`re just as european as alot of jews at this point.

[Tha big kahoona]

You should be defensive of your reading comprehension, not your people or genetics.

What i said in response to AA43560 about the middle east



AA43560 is not lebanese

Your genetics are alot of things, Lebanese are more mixed than any middle eastern country. You`re just as european as alot of jews at this point.

Grab a map. Lebanon and palestine are pretty much the same thing. Palestinians have alpha genetics. They're great people, hospitable, and many of them have done so much good in this world

[Merretto]

Grab a map. Lebanon and palestine are pretty much the same thing. Palestinians have alpha genetics. They're great people, hospitable, and many of them have done so much good in this world

Lebanon Palestine Jordan Syria.

Well.. More like Syria Palestine Syria Syria, historically.

I dont doubt many of them have done `good`

Unfortunately their bad apples have called the shots in recent history. And now you have a civilization brainwashed by bad apples and a population incapable of helping themselves.

Genetically, my opinion is that all of you are majority european.

[spadelexus]

The widow of deceased Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat said that it was time for the region’s Arabs to recognize the state of Israel, and that armed struggle to eliminate the Jewish state’s existence was no longer a plausible idea.

“We need to clearly express the recognition of Israel; no one can doubt its existence,” Suha Arafat said on Wednesday.

Arafat, however, did not say whether she believed Israel has a right to exist, only that it does exist. Israeli officials have often spoken about the need for Palestinians to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist because doing so would recognize the state’s long-term sovereignty and permanence.

Speaking on the tenth anniversary of her husband’s death, Suha Arafat was also noticeably dismayed at the actions of Palestinian terror group Hamas. “Since Hamas took over the Gaza Strip, Fatah leaders and buildings were attacked,” she stated.

Mrs. Arafat said that Hamas is ruining the futures of Gaza youths, committing "genocide" upon its own population. She added:

Hamas has taken the people in the Gaza Strip as hostages. When I see what is happening in Gaza, its just genocide. This generation grew up with violence, without education, with only a hope of emigrating. I hope that Hamas will finally understand that it should work towards peace negotiations. They said my husband was an obstacle to peace. [But] we saw what happened to peace after his death.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2...-Condemn-Hamas

[CXC3000]

No let up from the Zionist savages :

Israeli settlers ‘set fire’ to West Bank mosque

Another mosque was torched in the same village two years ago.

The arson attacks by hardline Jewish settlers are often accompanied by a graffiti reading "price tag.".

http://rt.com/news/204635-jerusalem-mosque-fire-israel/

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(Palestinians look at burnt tires inside a mosque in the West Bank village of Qusra)

[Tha big kahoona]

Squatters decided from banning mads gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, from entering gaza. Lifetime ban. Their reason? He's a security threat.

He's 67, and has been volunteering at a hospital in gaza since 2008.

Security threat? Really? Fkn khazarian squatters

[spadelexus]

I am a troll

Why are you recycling the same story you posted on here yesterday?

[CXC3000]

Why are you recycling the same story you posted on here yesterday?

The article's been updated. Take it up with RT.

[JonathanN173]

Why are you recycling the same story you posted on here yesterday?

And still no proof that the jews actually did it

Also nice quoting by CXCtroll

The arson attacks by hardline Jewish settlers are often accompanied by a graffiti reading "price tag," but this was not the case in the latest incident, according to AFP citing Palestinian officials.

[johnnycomehome]

Squatters decided from banning mads gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, from entering gaza. Lifetime ban. Their reason? He's a security threat.

He's 67, and has been volunteering at a hospital in gaza since 2008.

Security threat? Really? Fkn khazarian squatters

My heart bleeds

[Merretto]

Squatters decided from banning mads gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, from entering gaza. Lifetime ban. Their reason? He's a security threat.

He's 67, and has been volunteering at a hospital in gaza since 2008.

Security threat? Really? Fkn khazarian squatters

Hmm Mads Gilbert, he's a doctor, he's also labelled a communist in his country, he belongs to a communist party, he's a politician and an "activist". UN reports proved in 2009 that his many political claims and messages for the world in 2009 were "staged", exaggerated and in some cases, fabrications.

His country men have accused him of standing in a conflict and exaggerating reports to win popularity in Norway for his planned move into office, for the "communist" party of Norway.

This is also a man who attempts to boycott other humanitarian efforts that don't adopt the same political views as him.

The guy is a self absorbed nutcase.


Bull**** is a regular part of your diet.

First you make people who arent Lebanese, Lebanese so you can pretend Lebanon achieved something. Now this.

[bcop]

Squatters decided from banning mads gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, from entering gaza. Lifetime ban. Their reason? He's a security threat.

He's 67, and has been volunteering at a hospital in gaza since 2008.

Security threat? Really? Fkn khazarian squatters

If you slander the Jewish state, don't expect the Jewish state to be nice to you.

I have disproved this whole "khazarian theory" much earlier in this thread. Please stop posting this nonsense.

[Tha big kahoona]

If you slander the Jewish state, don't expect the Jewish state to be nice to you.

I have disproved this whole "khazarian theory" much earlier in this thread. Please stop posting this nonsense.

He doesn't give a chit if the jewish state likes him. He wants to go to gaza. Thats a territory outside of israel. How fukinf arrogant are you khazarian squatters that you think it's your right to keep a doctor out of an area outside of israel.

I dont care what you think you've disproven. This has been proven by people far more credible than you. I don't even care to discuss this, because i dont care if you think you are a khazarian or not. Khazarian squatters gonna khazarian squat

[Merretto]

He doesn't give a chit if the jewish state likes him. He wants to go to gaza. Thats a territory outside of israel. How fukinf arrogant are you khazarian squatters that you think it's your right to keep a doctor out of an area outside of israel.

I dont care what you think you've disproven. This has been proven by people far more credible than you. I don't even care to discuss this, because i dont care if you think you are a khazarian or not. Khazarian squatters gonna khazarian squat

If you slander the Jewish state, don't expect the Jewish state to be nice to you.

I have disproved this whole "khazarian theory" much earlier in this thread. Please stop posting this nonsense.

Essentially Tha big kahoona has lost, he can no longer support his defeated arguments, so he's resorting to this lol.

I would just leave it at this.

Just for you kahoona, im going to call this an Irish victory, well because one side of my family is from there. Or maybe a Russian victory, pick and choose as you please.

[bcop]

He doesn't give a chit if the jewish state likes him. He wants to go to gaza. Thats a territory outside of israel. How fukinf arrogant are you khazarian squatters that you think it's your right to keep a doctor out of an area outside of israel.

I dont care what you think you've disproven. This has been proven by people far more credible than you. I don't even care to discuss this, because i dont care if you think you are a khazarian or not. Khazarian squatters gonna khazarian squat

If he wants to go to Gaza, go through Egypt. Don't slander Israel, and then expect Israel to let you in to Gaza, or to be nice to you in any other way.

I have disproved the Khazar theory with sources that are more credible than any source that you can bring. You have no idea who I am, what my religion is, or, even if I am Jewish, whether I am Ashkenazi (where the Khazar supposedly came form) or Sephardi. So don't worry about me.

I think that it is sad, however, that you would repeat an accusation that you know is wrong just because you think that It would annoy me. That really says more about you than it does about me.

Here are some papers, if you are interested:

http://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/cgi/...biol_preprints

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/

[squanto]

If you slander the Jewish state, don't expect the Jewish state to be nice to you.

I have disproved this whole "khazarian theory" much earlier in this thread. Please stop posting this nonsense.

All the doctors who intend to help Gazans are required to be pro-Israel.

I couldn't possibly make up something more ridiculous. Believe it or not, you're allowed to admit a country did something wrong. It doesn't mean you hate them, or that you're automatically siding with Palestine. Good lord man.