"The majority of major groups appear suddenly in the rocks with virtually no evidence of transition from their ancestors"
- Douglas Futuyama (evolutionist)
"Paleontologists have paid an enormous price for Darwin's arguement. We fancy ourselves as the only true students of life's history, yet to preserve our favored account of evolution by natural selection we view our data as so bad that we almost never see the process we profess to study. The history of most species includes two features particularly inconsistent with gradualism.
1). Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on Earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when the disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless.
2). Sudden appearance. In an local area, a species does not arise gradually by steady transformation on its ancestors, it all appears once FULLY FORMED"
- Stephen Gould
"Evolution is a religion"
-Michael Ruse (Darwinian Evolutionist)
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Thread: Theory of Evolution is wrong
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02-13-2014, 09:19 AM #91Astronaut Status
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02-13-2014, 09:29 AM #92
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02-13-2014, 09:34 AM #93
At some point there has to be an element of infinity, so we can't even attempt to comprehend it. It's far beyond us. Imagine sitting a monkey that will never die and never grow any smarter in front of a typewriter. Imagine how long it would take for that monkey to then start typing away and eventually punch out the entirety of Shakespeare's works in chronological order with 100% accuracy. That would be less than a zeptosecond relative to the expanse of infinity. Less than that in fact; you can't measure it because infinity can not be measured. It is also impossible to give an educated guess as to whether this Architect (just going to use this word for the sake of ease) cares about us and the fact that we exist because it is so fukking far beyond our comprehension. It's incredible.
Anyway, this isn't saying that God, Satan or any other supernatural elements do not inhabit our plane (far from it, that's a matter of what you know to be true based on exposure), but the 'then what created your god?' argument is defunct because there has to be an overarching element of infinity. Thus, it's not even worth the trouble trying to make sense of it - we are nothing relative to the Architect.
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02-13-2014, 09:43 AM #94
How can there be so many species of monkey, yet there is only one species of human?
If there was a common ancestor, how is it possible that there have been no intermediate-level intelligent human-type species?
After all, if dumb apes are able to survive by adapting to their environment, why wouldn't human-like apes with the ability to think on a less intelligent level than humans yet way smarter than these apes on the intelligence pyramid?
inb4 we killed off all competition
What competition? Does someone have any source on sub-human species that talked but were on the level of a mentally retarded human?
How would apes not be our competition back in the day when all we had were basic tools and they had brute strength over us? We outsmarted them, alright. Yet, we wouldn't have outsmarted the intermediate-intelligence variations?
inb4 Neanderthals
Neanderthals were humans, they died out because of inter-breeding as was recently confirmed by various studies you can look up online.
Can anybody who accepts evolution as the equivalent of the bible provide the explanations for these things since you're touting evolution as fact and not theory? I can't wait to hear your analysis with sources.
inb4 ad hominen attacks instead of intellectual discussion with sources
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02-13-2014, 09:49 AM #95
Geology/paleontology major checking in
Do you think fossils just happen every day? The conditions need to be almost perfect for a fossil to occur. For a fossil of something to occur, you need rapid burial. This means a mudslide, a volcanic ash burial, or something similar.
Human, being more intelligent than other species are more likely to have avoided rapid burial.
Not only this, but it is such a small time period that humans have even been around (only millions of years), which I know seems a lot, but is really just the blink of an eye on the geologic time scale. Earth has been around for 4600 million years.
Dinos, which we have more fossils of were first of all alive for a time span of around 160 million years. So they had a lot more time than humans to be fossilized. Not only this, but also they were much dumber, so they had an exponentially greater chance of being rapidly buried by falling into a tarpit or something. So that right there gives us an EXPONENTIALLY higher chance of them being fossilized than evolving humans, and we don't even have that many DINO fossils.
Do you get it?
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02-13-2014, 09:52 AM #96
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02-13-2014, 09:58 AM #97
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Evolution has more scientific evidence supporting it than any other theory. If you don't value evidence, what evidence can be shown to prove otherwise? A lot smarter people are putting this all together, while you sit on your ass on the internet trolling.
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02-13-2014, 10:00 AM #98
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02-13-2014, 10:01 AM #99
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02-13-2014, 10:05 AM #100
liberal media keeps the lie going. we all know how the liberals goal is to kill god and send us all to hell!!!!
jk.
everything is only theories without someone witnessing the whole event from start to finish it can never be proven but only guessed at. but evolution is needed for survival of a species, without it we would be rocks and never change or learn, since even learning is a form of mental evolution.I only rate 8 and 9's. you're arent a 10 deal with it
Keep that up and I will give you something to cry about.
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02-13-2014, 10:24 AM #101
I think the folks who support creationism or intelligent design aren't necessarily stupid (although they tend to be), the biggest obstacle is they have a huge mental block. Their entire life, their moral code, how they perceive the world is based mostly on faith, emotion, spiritual "feelings", and only a thin veneer of logic. Not only is the scientific method completely alien to their way of thinking, but the idea of evolution itself is very threatening to fundamentalist types because it completely undermines their entire belief system. For them acknowledging the theory of evolution as valid is a slippery slope to eternal damnation or a universe without God, either of which is unacceptable. The psychic pain is unbearable, and therefore they refuse to admit the very clear evidence before them.
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02-13-2014, 10:33 AM #102
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02-13-2014, 10:46 AM #103
Humans all kind of blended together. The homo sapien was the most successfull species overall because they produced alot of offspring and could communicate well. we bred with neanderthals and dinivarians (and other species) and created what we call the human race.
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02-13-2014, 10:49 AM #104
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02-13-2014, 10:49 AM #105
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Why would humans evolve to be smarter than apes? What environmental or geological change occurred that would cause this evolution to happen? Why wouldn't the species(apes) who live in a harsher climate and require more cunning to survive evolve to be smarter? Why would they evolve to be stronger, able to take colder and warmer climates yet be less evolved in terms of mental evolution?
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02-13-2014, 10:52 AM #106
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02-13-2014, 10:53 AM #107
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I study anthropology in college and I have to say the theory of evolution is right. First off we didn't evolve from the the apes that are around today we evolved from Sahelanthropus tchadensis, homo habilis, homo erectus, etc. extinct species from the human lineage. There are multiple fossils that show humans evolving so ya how bought you crack open a book before you state stupid threads like this.
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02-13-2014, 10:53 AM #108
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02-13-2014, 10:56 AM #109
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02-13-2014, 10:57 AM #110
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02-13-2014, 10:58 AM #111
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02-13-2014, 10:59 AM #112
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02-13-2014, 11:03 AM #113
Don't forget about the nephilims. Oh wait those were the species of humans that bred with gods. According to the theory of evolution God did not create humans so therefore that couldn't have been possible
My point is there's so many theories and different species of humans that have been said to exist that who really knows who's wrong and right. We don't know so we just leave how the human race became simply as an unsolved mystery
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02-13-2014, 11:07 AM #114
Came in expecting OP to know nothing about evolution.
We didn't evolve from apes you moron.
If you're going to try and make an argue meant about evolution being wrong then at least userstand what you're trying to disprove
Unless you do understand what evolution is and you chose to make this stupid thread falsely representing what evolution is.... Then your still an idiot but with the added straw man fallacy
Also evolution is a fact, it's been proven.
"Theory" in science doesn't mean the same as "theory" in colloquial terms.
It's the how we (and all other organisms) evolved that's mainly debated (among people with common sense and not some bat **** insane creationist)
Negging for pure stupidity
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02-13-2014, 11:09 AM #115
These two statements will answer all of your questions.
One: evolution is not a linear process like you have seen in cartoons. You must have spent no time researching the theory since it is obvious this is your assumption.
Two: the process of fossilization and the mechanism by which fossils are unearthed (not dug up, but brought to the upper layer of the surface) is one that is fragile and time sensitive.
You should put some thought into a question before asking it.
The concept of a missing link is inaccurate and ignorant.Last edited by CollegeStudent8; 02-13-2014 at 11:22 AM.
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02-13-2014, 11:26 AM #116
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02-13-2014, 11:28 AM #117
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02-13-2014, 11:31 AM #118
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It's sickening that the entirety of science is based on asking questions. Every scientific discovery resulted from someone asking a question. But when people ask questions you guys slam them and call them names. Some people are genuinely asking questions about evolution and look how you treat them. It's sad
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02-13-2014, 11:33 AM #119
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Says the 34 year old idiot.
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And know the place for the first time." -- T.S. Eliot.
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Strong concept of punctuated equilibrium bro. Punctuated equilibrium is where a species rapidly evolves into a different form or phenotype. Instead of having changes over say 500,000 years, the changes occurs in 5,000 years, which is nothing compared to the nearly 5 billion year old Earth.
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