readOriginally Posted by unlovedwarrior
'Really, keep it for carb-up. Milk has more carbs than you'd think just reading the label (100ml is a small amount) but it slows down digestion of whey, so it's not even suitable for PWO." - Eileen
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Thread: Step By Step Keto Diet Plan!
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07-20-2006, 01:32 AM #421
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08-09-2006, 05:36 PM #422
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Here's what I've eaten today fellas:
Blueberries (I get this special kind that are full of fiber and very low carb).
Eggs
Cheese
Bacon
Hamburger
Broccoli
Almonds
Salad w/ cheese, chicken breast, ranch, & olive oil.
How's that looking? This is my second full day of the keto diet, and I feel like death. One of my buddies tells me that it'll take 4 or 5 days for me to feel better.... that right now, my body is looking for carbs to use for energy, and its not finding any... so that's why I feel like total ****.
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08-10-2006, 11:40 AM #423
Yes, the first time you do keto isn't fun. The more often you do it, the faster and easier it gets. Eating some extra fat will help with sugar cravings and lack of energy.
Special low carb blueberries? How do you grow those?
What you are eating looks fine. Plug your amounts into www.fitday.com and see how your overall calories and macros look.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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08-10-2006, 04:05 PM #424
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08-10-2006, 04:39 PM #425
Generally yes, but you will probably get away with the odd handful of berries. Much lower carb, higher fibre and a higher proportion of nutrients as well. Ideally, grow your own or pick wild ones.
Have you ever looked at the difference between a normal apple that you buy in a shop, and a wild one? It's hard to believe they are the same fruit.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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08-13-2006, 06:22 PM #426
ok
I like this diet alot! I think I am going to start tomorrow. I read most of the thread and what it looks like is the atkins diet except for the weekdays? My questions are as follows.
1- on the atkins diet I hear it all comes back when you finish the diet. Does the same happen with this?
2- during the weekdays just pretty much eat all fat and protein doesnt metter what kind and you can have a low carb protien shake after a workout? And the weeknds you can just load up the carbs?
If this is the diet I can do this easily. I am probably 36% body fat with a ton of muscle too. Can I just eat anything fat and no carbs all day weekdays and it doesnt matter how late at nite you eat?
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08-13-2006, 09:06 PM #427
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08-14-2006, 05:00 AM #428Originally Posted by chugg
2. That's pretty much the gist of it. However, I wouldn't "load up" on carbs on the weekend. Just eat clean carbs for anywhere from 16 - 24 hours until you're satisfied. Don't go overboard though, then you'll just lose your progress.
Low-Carb Vegetables: Peppers, Mushrooms, Celery, Cucumber, Lettuce, Romaine Lettuce, Radishes, Bok Choy, Parsley
Low-Moderate Carb Vegetables: Artichoke, Asparagus, Snow Peas, Spinach, Broccoli, Spaghetti Squash, Eggplant, Brussel Sprouts, Tomato, Cabbage, Turnips, Onion, Zucchini, Cauliflower
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08-14-2006, 09:39 AM #429Originally Posted by jaim91
Can I eat all the cheese I want?
I get hammered once every 2 weeks what alcohol can I drink to do this if I do it on my carb up day?
Is there anything in this diet that can take the place of ketchup (I love ketchup)
What are clean carbs? Food examples?
I dont understand what dextrose is.
some people say do cardio right away and some say waity til progress slows. Which is it?
Does it matter how late at nite you eat?
I can pretty much assure youthat after all my reading I did not see answers to these questions.
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08-14-2006, 01:59 PM #430Originally Posted by chugg
Dextrose is glucose. Sold in supermarkets in the baking and baby section, in chemists, in health food and home brew places. Also on-line, but the postage will cost more than the dex, it's very cheap. Maltadextrin can also be used.
Moderate intensity cardio will help you get back to ketosis faster after your carb-up. HIIT (high intensity interval training) a couple of times a week will give your heart a good workout. You probably don't need more than that to start with if you are lifting hard. You can add in more cardio if you need to.
As long as you are eating below maintenance, you can eat in bed if you want. Just make sure you are eating six meals a day.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
http://www.eileengormley.com/ Funny science fiction for bodybuilders
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08-18-2006, 08:18 PM #431
Keto is the GREATEST! After 4 days of feeling like I was dying, my body adjusted. My energy was great. My workouts (oddly enough) didn't struggle. I did 10 days straight for my keto 'induction' period... mid-week, I did have some PW carbs... because I destroyed myself on leg day and bench day... It seemed to work. In 10 days, I went from 205 to 200. My muscles look tighter... less puffy... harder... more ripped. I'm carbing up right now and loving it. I don't know how I'm going to get enough carbs... will probably eat some cereal.
Moving from very high glycemic carbs to lower glycemic as the carb load continues.... keeping the fat intake low... IS THIS RIGHT?
KETO RULES!
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08-19-2006, 03:14 PM #432
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08-31-2006, 02:17 PM #433
Second Day...
Eileen thank you so much for your information. This is my second day on Keto. I am feeling really tired and having a very hard time eating enough (all this fat and protein is very satisfying).
I would love to hear about some great success stories...Last edited by mellie8it; 08-31-2006 at 03:04 PM.
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08-31-2006, 02:46 PM #434
There's a lot of them out there. After years of struggling with low fat diets and gallstones, I switched to keto and not only lost three stone (about 42lb) with amazing ease, all the gallstone attacks stopped too.
There's a lot of other people here who lost a lot of weight, and better still, a lot of bodyfat while gaining muscle.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
http://www.eileengormley.com/ Funny science fiction for bodybuilders
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08-31-2006, 03:38 PM #435Originally Posted by mellie8it
All/ most of these people have good things to say about their experiences on the keto dietContest Prep Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146273283&p=911273403&posted=1#post911273403
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08-31-2006, 09:10 PM #436
Thanks...
Great link...
I am pretty excited... I bought Ketostix today and I tested 40mg/dL and I could not believe it.... I got my brother to test himself and he tested 5 mg/dL... Now is 40 a good number or is it a little high?
Also, I do not want to lose motivation but I am going on a business trip next week for seven days. I am wondering if any of you have some good tips for traveling and eating out... I will be traveling with Udo Erasmus so I will have a lot of Udo's oil near by....
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09-01-2006, 05:10 AM #437Originally Posted by mellie8itContest Prep Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146273283&p=911273403&posted=1#post911273403
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09-04-2006, 09:26 AM #438Originally Posted by BurritoJimmy
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09-05-2006, 11:41 AM #439
Day 7
I started the Keto diet 7 days ago... and it is going really good... I am finding the diet really easy... the only thing that is a bit difficult is eating enough food. I have not noticed any weight changes but I have not been workingout 100% the last week since I was feeling so tired from the diet but I finally have my energy back. I will probably wait a few more days to have a carb-up day!
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09-05-2006, 01:40 PM #440
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09-05-2006, 03:37 PM #441
I have a few quick questions
I've decided to give this diet a shot (I've been lifting about 3 months now and have put on 5 pounds just following a regular balanced diet... I seem to be carrying the weight ok but at 6' 190 I am carrying a bit too much fat)
I bought 1 gal of skim milk. I have always been a big milk drinking however I see that milk is prohibited on this diet. Is cheese ok or something to pass on?
I also bought 1 gal of orange juice to take with the whey suppliment after lifting. Is it best to just get rid of the orange juice and use water with the whey?
One other question. Is it ok to have 2 glasses of Gin and Diet tonic a night with this diet? I have developed a slight dependancy on alcohol and would prefer not to give it up entirely.
Oh yeah,
I'm not really looking for extreme and quick results to be honest. Just something balanced to lose maybe 20 lbs. I'm lifting/cardio merely to increase my strength and atheletic ability.
thanks to however responds.Last edited by klootzak; 09-05-2006 at 03:44 PM.
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09-05-2006, 03:44 PM #442
I have a few quick questions
I've decided to give this diet a shot (I've been lifting about 3 months now and have put on 5 pounds just following a regular balanced diet... I seem to be carrying the weight ok but at 6' 190 I am carrying a bit too much fat)
I bought 1 gal of skim milk. I have always been a big milk drinking however I see that milk is prohibited on this diet. Is cheese ok or something to pass on?
I also bought 1 gal of orange juice to take with the whey suppliment after lifting. Is it best to just get rid of the orange juice and use water with the whey?
One other question. Is it ok to have 2 glasses of Gin and Diet tonic a night with this diet? I have developed a slight dependancy on alcohol and would prefer not to give it up entirely.
Oh yeah,
I'm not really looking for extreme and quick results to be honest. Just something balanced to lose maybe 20 lbs. I'm lifting/cardio merely to increase my strength and atheletic ability.
Thanks to whomever responds.
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09-05-2006, 03:45 PM #443
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09-05-2006, 03:59 PM #444
Cheese is fine, keep skim milk for the carb-up.
Give the oj away. Fructose will kick you out of ketosis and isn't even helpful during carb-up. After lifting, go for plain whey and a small amount of a high-gi carb like dextrose. Typical amount is 30g whey, 15g dextrose.
I hope you are joking about the gin. Even with diet tonic, two gins a night is a really bad idea. Apart from anything else, alcohol tends to hit you much harder on a keto diet. If you can't give it up, then you have a much bigger problem than an extra 20lb.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
http://www.eileengormley.com/ Funny science fiction for bodybuilders
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09-08-2006, 05:16 AM #445
Keto Diets Rule!
So here's the thing with me, I have a high percentage of bodyfat now, and everyone tells me to bulk, then cut. Not really excited about that - don't want to gain anymore fat. Then I read a book called "Ironman's ultimate guide to bodybuilding nutrition" and this diet was mentioned in there. I've been on it for 5 weeks. Not real strict, but dude, I've been building muscle AND cutting at the same time with it. My weights have all gone up, and faster than if I was just "eating clean". There are also a number of anabolic hormones that come into play aside from isnulin. This diet RULES ASS and really is rewarding...dude...ben and jerry's lowfat frozen yogurt. HOLY SHIZZ dude....carbs, low fat...I can actually indulge on this diet. Killer stuff.
Peace and chicken grease!!
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09-08-2006, 09:08 AM #446
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09-11-2006, 03:43 PM #447
"Eat fat and protein all day everyday except on workout days because after workouts, you will need to consume strictly just protein—no fat or carbs."
Is that just the post-workout meal where you can only consume protein, or does that mean for the entire night after the workout?
I aren't sure I understand this part.
Pete
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09-12-2006, 04:26 AM #448
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09-19-2006, 05:38 AM #449
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To Blindfaith and all who will listen and provide constructive criticism:
I am roughly 250 lbs.
I am trying to begin a cyclical ketogenic diet (for the second time) but I am having a hard time turning my daily caloric needs into a manageable meal plan. This has always been troublesome for me. Math is simple, creatively eating the correct math is much more difficult. My issues aren't with discipline;
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they are with preparing the correct roadmap... I have read Lyle McDonalds book along with Body Opus and agree with the principles but need to put the meals to paper.
For instance, during my low carb period, I know I need roughly: 50 grams protein / 6 grams carbs / and 42 grams of fat per meal over 5 meals in a day... But I am having a hard time equating this into which foods to choose.
I even have a calorie book (NutriBase Complete book of food counts). I have tried to assemble a plan several times but end up with terribly undesirable results.
Anyone have any suggestions? I would appreciate it greatly!
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09-19-2006, 10:05 AM #450
Start with the keto diet samples to see what other people's meals look like. And pick and choose what you like from there according to you individual tastes and needs. You don't necessarily HAVE to have 30 g of carbs throughout the day. You can have less, and lots of veggies (those don't really count because they're mostly fibre)
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